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#27 Nov 06 2006 at 4:27 PM Rating: Good
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LTNS Doom.

And Davon ah know about why they flame. Yer right though, they can't conceive anyone legit selling Ulli stones cause they're a pack of selfish, greedy, peckers who wouldn't sell their mothers, unless ye offered 'em a Koenig Body Abjuration in with the gil.
#28 Nov 06 2006 at 6:09 PM Rating: Default
name me one ls that sells ulli stones. and name me one ls that doesnt need ulli stones for haidates.

and if dvsIII is so secure about buying stones, who did they buy it from then? my ls has a hell of a time getting ulli to pop w/o camping him for 5 hours plus.... waste 5 hours to get 6mil / by 20+ people dont equal much money. and thats considering you can beat the 40+ rmt that live @ ulli


lol is all i can say.
#29 Nov 06 2006 at 7:00 PM Rating: Good
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Some guys Validok found on Batalia.

I chatted to one of them for a while and I am as sure as I can be that they weren't RMT or any other form of boogie-man. I've spent enough time up in Sky to recognise most of the RMT LS and characters up there and hadn't seen these guys before. Vali spends even more time there than I do and hates RMT with a passion so I trust him on that as well.

The guy I spoke to was JP but spoke very good English and from what I could gather his LS just don't need Sky stuff any more, they farm it for fun and profit though. They offered to get us more stones in the future if we want them but I declined for now.


Jernau posted this on our forums in respons to Papa's question. You can send Jernau or Validok a tell to ask the guys name.
#30 Nov 06 2006 at 9:59 PM Rating: Default
ooooh... i change my opinion because Validok found them in Ballista and after 10 seconds of talking to the which I am sure the conversation went something really in depth like "hello Autumn stone can I have it?", " Yes Please 6M"
"You want more we get everyday" , "No thanks that is all the gil we have, your not a Gil seller are you?" "Gil sell? No no we do for fun. Our friend does all the selling of the gils. You needs gil? www.cannotlinkto please check it. I even give you super coupon code! DVSIII coupon code get you 10% off! Thank you come Again."

Nah your right Gil sellers wouldn't ballista on any of their 1000 accounts while waiting for stuff to pop. But since I know all of us hard working players are dieing to know who is the magic ballista man that sells legit stones just to buy items to ballista? Please pass his name along so all of us can benefit from the nonRMT sources. If ya haven't learned by now that almost any player can one day be good then next day be gil seller there is tons of proof just look around.

Or you can simply admit that you messed up, you purchased the stones in hopes to sway people from leaving the linkshell. Hell maybe your even changing your name to hope that someday all is forgotten. But then again, maybe your future dynamis run will have someone MPK the hole shell, which was kinda funny when a member did that to that other ls for stealing dynamis sandy and bad mouthing you. Better yet, the trend can continue as the truly good players in DVS get their items and get the hell out of dodge. But I am sure you already knew that was coming.

I understand this isn't everyone in DVS' fault just the leader(s) who condoned the action. You should add that in your website like Jedi did back in the day or atleast say openly that your ls will only do events when you can afford to buy certain items. Hell Zen openly admits to botting and they get members maybe it will work for you. Till next Flame
#31 Nov 06 2006 at 10:35 PM Rating: Good
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Ok Who is this Jack a$$? I'm thinking Kramer, but Excuse me if i'm wrong.

Did you even talk to Validok? or Jernau?
ohh Wait... your one of those people that gets his jollies outa Flaming people from behind a monitor screen cause he probubly doesn't have real people to talk to him in RL. I really can't understand idiots like you.....

This post was started to warn people about a pedafile like person running away from his dirty little secret becasue he got found out, but apparently someone who i think has the IQ of a slug decided.... "Ohhh i'm better then everyone else So i'm going to start a flaming war...." Yeah i'm not much better for feeding into it, but i can only take sooo much, I've been in DVS for 2+ years and i love it here. We play fair, we try hard, and we hate RMT like everyone else. I was one of those "Leaders" that agreed we should buy a stone or 2 if we could get them from a non RMT LS, and after 2-3 weeks of looking we found one. So deal with it, yes we bought stones, No they wern't RMT. Its done, its over, you don't like we did, hell don't join DVS, its that simple. Don't need to start a flame war becasue of your manly insecurities.

As for the MPK thing in dynamis. If the LS leader himself gives a hourglass to someone NOT from his own LS, well.... he shoulda known better, besides you know How AGM is, and that leader telling his friend one thing, then going in reguardless well to me was Rude.
#32 Nov 06 2006 at 10:38 PM Rating: Decent
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You can send Jernau or Validok a tell to ask the guys name.


If you wanna know Kraken...why not send Vali or Jern a tell, I'm sure they'll be more than happy to tell you who it is. You can speak to the man himself even.


DVS has to start a new shell because Mir is the sackholder and no one knows for sure where he is or whether or not he's paying for his account. Hopefully he's doing okay. This is very unlike him and it has a few of us worried.

As well, I think it was explained earlier why the decision was made to purchase the stones, because Mir has the dynamis list of attendees, and since Mir is not here, DVS has no way of knowing who to disperse the gil to, hence and I'm sure the LS as a whole decided to use the gil for the purpose of buying the stones.

After being in DVS for so long and being good friends with the leaders, I can say honestly they would not buy from RMT knowingly Anybody who knows the leaders of DVS knows this to be true and they would not, I repeat they would not lower themselves to such an act.

Just give it up Kraken..please go back to the hole from which you crawled out from...
#33 Nov 06 2006 at 11:15 PM Rating: Default

I'd really like to know who the non-RMT autumnstone sellers are too, because I'm fairly sure my linkshell would buy an autumnstone for 5-6M from them to save us the pain of camping Ullikummi. 5-6M is nothing to make. 10 hours of sitting on Ullikummi to only watch RMT claim is painful.

However, while I believe that DVSIII does not knowingly or intentionally buy from RMT sources, I do believe that anyone who buys autumnstones is buying them from an RMT source - even if they do not believe they are doing so.

SF isn't up there 24/7 camping Ullikummi but we are up there 3-5 times a week for many, many hours.

We've not been able to claim since July. Only RMT have. We're not terrible at claiming - we used to be able to claim him against regular linkshells on a fairly regular basis before the RMT got there. We time everything down to the second on all the pops and we are very careful at covering pop areas. As far as I know, no one in my shell uses a bot (personally I don't think anyone in my shell is capable of correctly configuring a bot - hell, I'm happy when I can get the computer to turn on myself) so we don't claim that way.

No one in my shell has told me or the other leaders the name of a non-RMT mercernary linkshell selling stones. Several have suggested that we buy from RMT and have been turned down on the suggestion. I'm sure that in a linkshell of 70 or so people who've done endgame for two years someone would know the name of a contact for a non-RMT source of autumnstones.

It's not flaming or argumentative at this point - it's simply logic and experience. You just gotta accept it and, I hope, change it.

Stop buying autumnstones and go do the mini-haidate ISNM in Aht Urghan. And keep complaining to SE about the problem. They may fix it in 3 years.



P.S. The thing the OP was talking about with the guy who pretended to be a girl doesn't really interest me. Happens all the time. People should know better by this point in Internet history that they have to be careful when interacting with people online, and parents should be monitoring what their children are doing online. That kind of topic bores me. Ullikummi does not bore me.

Edited, Nov 6th 2006 at 11:26pm PST by Meara
#34 Nov 07 2006 at 7:30 AM Rating: Good
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Nice to see Alla is still the home of the ignorant, arrogant, moronic people it used to be. No I wont say names, because there's too many people to name. Ah well, I no longer have to put up with it since I quit a few months ago. This post was horribly derailed and became a egotistical fight against DVSIII from people like KrakenKraver, who ever the lowly person is hidding behind his forum name. Won't even say his name or talk to the Vali to verify stuff, instead insisting on spouting nonsense just to wave his ego around tring to make one group look bad. All he seems like he's doing is playing the behind the scenes villian who's main goal in life is to start flames and keep them burning as long as he can. Maybe it makes him feel all nice and tingly inside. Thus he has to hide behind his forum name so no one can shoot down any credubility if the names that of someone untrustworthy. Or maybe he's afraid of making his LS look bad so he hides his name him self. Or maybe he's even from an LS like Zen and hides so he can flame others freely. Who knows.


Peace~
Charlles - Former FFXI-Slappywag Dragoon & Paladin - Retired
#35 Nov 07 2006 at 10:40 AM Rating: Good
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Rag,
I am certain you are wrong. Kramer is much more intelligent that Kraken. Based on the comments I would say Kraken is American or one of the ***-monkies that follow him around and disappear whenever he stops too quickly. Regardless, it doesnt really matter. I trust Jernau and Validok completely and what was done was making the best for the LS of a bad situation.

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Or you can simply admit that you messed up, you purchased the stones in hopes to sway people from leaving the linkshell. Hell maybe your even changing your name to hope that someday all is forgotten. But then again, maybe your future dynamis run will have someone MPK the hole shell, which was kinda funny when a member did that to that other ls for stealing dynamis sandy and bad mouthing you. Better yet, the trend can continue as the truly good players in DVS get their items and get the hell out of dodge. But I am sure you already knew that was coming.

I understand this isn't everyone in DVS' fault just the leader(s) who condoned the action. You should add that in your website like Jedi did back in the day or atleast say openly that your ls will only do events when you can afford to buy certain items. Hell Zen openly admits to botting and they get members maybe it will work for you. Till next Flame.


And whether you are American or not, I will personally pay American back the 1 mil for the glass from that run. I was not on when that happened nor do I condone the actions. While incredibly funny that American was dumb enough to hand out hourglasses to the LS he just stole Dynamis from, the retaliation was wrong and I will personally reimburse you/him for the glass within the next 1-2 weeks.

As for DVS3, the LS is doing just fine, thank you. We are remaking the shell because of the uncertainty of Miriel's status only. End-game culture is end-game culture. People hop around all the time. While I miss good friends like Davon, Odoie and others the LS goes on. Many end-game LS have recently restructered their membership and refocused their activities and we are simply doing the same. But thanks for you concern.

Edited, Nov 7th 2006 at 10:47am PST by LacysDad
#36 Nov 29 2006 at 3:46 PM Rating: Good
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Papawarlock wrote:
Maybe there's a fledgling ls that's not ready for Byakko and would rather see a bit of gil in their pockets for start up funds. ::shrug:: Who knows.


Very true, I have a friend in a small shell of about 20 ppl. They kill most things in sky. Sometimes they sell stones. They all are very well equipped players and he always seems to have alot of money. He says it comes from only his LS. He says they rarely have enough people online to kill Byakko or kirin so they just sell it.

I rarely see him with Autumstones though. I havent seen him with any stones in several months now, I guess they either have a regular buyer or quit selling. I havent talked to him about his LS in a long time.

He told me before that they keep a mule up there when they are farming and when there is little competion they run up there, otherwise they kill everything else. That's their system that works for them and they make good money doin it. Sell extra stuff, use most of it.

I dont support or not support. I'm just stating that sometimes LSs do it for different reasons. Sometimes you will find a person who left their LS selling stuff they got. Drops/LS property ect.

As far as KrakenKraver being kramer, its not. He has a strong hatred for kramer and has most of his posts directed at him.
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