First, I doubt anyone will read this in it's entirety. Cool by me. Second, most of the responses to Bedrock are sarcastic, and probably a bit arrogant. I can get that way, and frankly, as it concerns him directly, I'm upset and prone to a bit of rhetoric as such. Though this does not impact the facts one bit.
If you read nothing else, read the last 1/2 or so. Especially those that continue to argue I have no valid arguments.
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He can bash me all he wants, I refuse to post on his site where I'll be bashed at by black sheep. Let's look at it like this... he is the black sheep of dynamis right now... doesn't want to join up with everyone else (where no one is complaining) so he goes off and does his own thing. However at the same time he's herding all of his own members into believing that I'm some powerful evil person.
Blacksheep? I can get behind that. In WWII, Gregory Boyington broke every established rule in the marine air service and yet managed to create one fo the toughest, most elite fighting squadrons in the Pacific theater. VMF 214, or as some know it The Blacksheep Squadron. I had the very great honor of meeting Major Boyington just prior to his death in 1988 and while I admit he was one hell of curmudgeon, he was certainly a man I was glad I met. So if you want to stick me with BlackSheep, you bet I’ll take that label, gladly.
On a side note, bedrock had sworn not to post here again. Let me tell you why he did. You see, on Nov 19 he altered his own run times at his LS calendar at tshot. Yes, he doctored his own posts, poorly, and I called him on it as he rushed his LS in to Dynamis ahead of us, completely unwilling to talk civilly to me prior to doing so. In fact saying he did not want any resolution and would not change. So I informed him I would post the screens and info about what he did. I changed my mind and made it a post at my form, as I partly agree little gets resolved here, so that my LS members would know what had happened and been done. In the world of Journalism, what Bedrock has done is called “Getting in front of the storyâ€. It’s a standard method by which a person, informed that very damaging and hurtful information is about to released that will cause harm to their character or cause, ‘get’s in front’ of the story by releasing their ‘version’ of it first. Playing it down, calling the source of the upcoming revelation an assortment of names and what not, in attempt to discredit the information by discrediting the source. The only time this method is used is when the subject of the information knows for a fact the information is truthful and valid and cannot be questioned, so you must attacked the messenger as it were. It’s the ultimate cheap shot.
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Let him/them think what they want. I've got your truth right here, if the man took the time to post his own linkshells schedule on our community’s calendar then we would have known to change to Dynamis - Windurst or cancel dynamis entirely. I told the man to his face that YES I changed the time, and YES we planned to fight Jormungand at 3:00PM EST. I have nothing to hide, I admit that yes I did say "earlier this morning" when it was in all reality right before Jorm started. A simple slip of the tongue and that is that.
See? He’s getting infront of it. Nothing to hide, look see? I said I did it before he did it… and on and on. The reason this is done is so you will swallow the upcoming lies.
[calendar]The fact remains the same, had we of known that Airamis planned Bastok at a conflicting time then we either a) would of contacted him and worked it out, or b) gone to Dynamis - Windurst. For those who wonder, no I do not check his calendar.
If the man had not told me his own age, I would of been thinking he was in his preteens.
He claims I lie, in fact he claims every person in my LS are liars. Yet he has members that claim we "stole his dynamis" and that he has logs of a member of his, Makaveli, said that we planned to steal their Dynamis. Yet I have not seen truth in any of that. He also claims that I care enough to check his calendar, again that’s a lie. [/quote]
See? Here come the lies. First I doubt seriously that everyone in SF are liars, it would be a very unhappy place and would soon fall apart. I’ve also never said such a thing. I know a few people in SF in fact, and think they to be great people. Though I know a few that I also would never turn my back on. So, as with all things, I am sure SF is no different from every LS on every server. A collection of people, all with different dispositions. My comments about Makaveli never included the statement that I knew they planned to steal our time. Only that they were doing an HNM at a specific time and that everyone was aware it conflicted with the stated Dynamis time they had posted within their LS calendar. Then he started asking about our times.
I would also ask, out of curiosity, why a member of SF, Makaveli, who was doing Dynamis-Bastok with them, would have the DBS Chat LS pearl equipped during the run? It does make one question why. Especially in light of the events immediately prior to entry in Dynamis. Smells like dead fish.
That forum post of his is pretty comical, "The Retribution of TSHoT" lol. I'm gonna copyright that name and use it.
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Taken from his own post:
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"The run for Tuesday is being moved. TheCalm has now posted they will take Windy at 7PM. How many people can bew ready to go at 6pm? If not enough, I will move the location elsewere at a different time and post it only in the LSMES to avoid more squatters."
Source: http://syndromeda.org/bedrock/airamis2.jpg
My LS accidentally (on his part) moved onto his schedule. Yet he claims he's going to do it intentionally to **** off the server. He is going against every thing my calendar (or his) stands for. How can you take anyone like that seriously? I can't even see how his own linkshell follows him. (Oh wait, they don't.)
My entire post above is the direct affect of Airamis bringing my linkshell into this; he said I took a "personal swing" at him. So I guess that justifies him making that post, so be it. Let him, not one of my linkshell member said a word to him yesterday.
Yep I did say that. I find it amusing, I can say such a thing, and then I’m wrong. Bedrock actually DOES it and he’s a hero. Fascinating what the mindset is.
Also, you see again the problem “My LS Accidentally (on his part)â€. Excuse me, can someone get me a BS decorer ring? Cause this is non-sensical. HIS LS does something and it’s MY fault? Wow. So the rape victim is to blame? The guy who gets rear-ended in an auto accident shouldn’t have been there? Its their fault. Truly a twisted world view.
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THe problem is in his rush to cover his *** and hide his lies and make everything look ok, he made a mistake. he changed the message BODY, not the start and end times on the calendar.
I left it there so I had further proof that I wasn't lying. Does he really think I'm an idiot? I told him in tell that I CHANGED IT. I have nothing to hide.
Well that’s what he’d like you to think. Remember, he’s never posting here again. At least, not until he needed to get in front of the truth that was about to befall him. Read the OP in my forum, and look at the screens. He lied about when he changed it, and frankly…if no one else had a run scheduled that he was aware of…why bother changing at all? What purpose does it serve? What reason exists for it? None. Unless of course he WAS aware of a LS that had a run scheduled, and knew his LS would conflict, and he was pulling a big CYA.
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He does not wish to communicate with with any LS who disagrees with them and as such pretends they do not exist.
Uhh, what. I do not with to exist with you because you only post HALF of the conversation, you spread slander and propaganda as if you are the direct descendant of Joseph Goebbels. It's obvious you only post what you want to try and make yourself look good, JUST like you said you had logs of Makaveli saying we planned to attack and steal your dynamis and have posted nothing to support it. You need to stop with the conspiracy theories, you need to stop with the forum posts, you need to stop with the slander and propaganda and just play the game.
Ah, a **** reference (actually your second I believe). What’s the saying on the internet about referencing the *****? That when a poster stoops to that level they have effectively stated their argument is invalid and they are grasping at straws? Something like that. Which I think speaks for itself.
Ah, posted nothing to support it. Well I posted that I did ask you to discuss a resolution, and work out that ONE event, and was dismissed by you and not important, what was important was getting your LS into dynamis. So, that’s a dismissal. And frankly, arrogant in the extreme. I post no conspiracy theories, just facts. You can twist them but evidence stands. I’d also be vary wary of posting claims of slander when you are yourself teetering on the very edge by posting lies which the evidence supports to be lies and fabrications on your part. Also, I will not stop posting as I wish, what I wish within my own forums.
As for the whole bashing if you posted at my site. Nothing of the sort would happen. If anyone did, they’d get banned and they know it.
Prior to the events of Nov 19 I had no person beef with you, and stated as much repeatedly here. Now, this is no longer true. I do. Becaue I realize I was deeply mistaken about you. I had thought you to be well intentioned and somewhat above the drivel. I was wrong.
Dramork,
Generall I don’t respond to cowards posting behind shells, but in your case I’ll make an exception. Mostly because it’s a funny post.
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What's even better is that Airamis is going to tshot.org's site, stealing the information posted there, and then transferring it to his own .com (commercial) site. While not quite illegal, as no profits are being made or lost, it's still cheap as hell to promote your website on other forums
Hmmmm. Stealing? I’m sorry I thought this was a public calendar for the public use of all? As such it falls under public domain and fair use. However, if you are asserting that this is Tshots PRIVATE calendar, then you may have a point. Of course, a private calendar would not serve the alleged purpose. So please let me know which it is. There is no legal issue involved at all in truth. Though nice try. Lies are awesome, they mislead the uninformed. Fortunately I am not uninformed.
Cheap as hell to promote your website on other forums? Odd, I could SWEAR Bedrock has his site/forums linked in his sig…clearly cheap as hell. Promotion seems to bother people here. Why? Are you so afraid that someone might actually see a better way? I can understand that, it would put you in a poor position if people knew there was a unified resource. Yes, promotion is evil. We wouldn’t want anyone to know about the facts and truth would we? No no. Very bad that.
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Let's get back to this "neural" site you're talking about. I don't see how your site can be anymore "neural" than Tshot. Also, your site is a .com site and tshot is .org site so by definition alone:
tshot.org = .org extension => non-profit organization
dynamiscalender.com = .com extension => commerical site
Finally, I would like to point out that you are just being very stubborn. I do think you have a good site but you're asking us to abandon a system that is already working without good valid reasons to.
By definition, neutral must mean not in the sole control of any one party. Dynamiscalendar .com isn’t. If I had simply wanted this to be about DBS v Tshot, I would have simply said “hey look, DBS has a calendar too and it’s at DBS’s private site. I want to be the boss so here it is!â€. But instead I went out, made a new URL, a new site, and said Look…this is a better solution. No one LS runs it. Makore from Kuponet has as much admin privs there as I do. I offered Bedrock the admin privs too, I also offered to give the leaders of Lemonade and other LS admin rights. But all were rejected.
The fact that at the top of the page is “tshot†at the LS calendar currently used insures two things. 1- It will always be under the sole and exclusive control of tshot and or Spike Flail. Because it is a LS site first and foremost, and they do HNM events, there is information which they must protect from those who use it for posting their own LS dynamis times. POP times, ToD, etc. are sought after pieces of information and any LS would do well to protect them at all costs. As I have said before, I can understand not granting admin access to the forums to other LS leaders due to this. You’d be giving them access to these times and info, and effectively working against your LS own best interests. But at Dynamiscalendar.com no such issue exists, as it is intended to serve only one purpose with no conflict of interest between protecting LS needs and administering a fair and open community resource. The core goals of the two things are in direct conflict. And frankly, I wouldn’t give any LS leader admin access at DBS for the same reasons. Thus, a separate URL where all LS leaders, or an appointed group of them, have equal, shared, control at the admin level.
2- the possibility for abuse within the controlling LS. Again, there is the ‘tshot’ at the top of the page issue as a potential issue. Suppose someone at SF or TS has a problem with the people in..I dunno… Trinova. So they decide to ‘get even’ or whatever. Since Tshot members are the only ones with admin access, they can block or delete Trinova times/runs/etc, and then claim they have no idea what happened. They are the only ones with admin log access. At Dynamiscalendar, several LS leaders would be able to access and say “hey, this person did it at this time, why?â€. I’m not saying it would ever happen, but transparency of authority is needed to insure it CANT happen, or at least it can be proven by several independent sources if it is.
There was a specific instance where Bedrock was unable to add people to the calendar for a period of time due to a Hurricane. This brought the addition of any new LS to a standstill until he was able to return. Yes he has some members of Tshot with admin privs, but they missed the new applications as well. So this is a problem. At Dynamiscalendar, the ability to several LS leaders, around the country to add people to the post list means no accident or act of God befalling one, damages the whole. There is always someone else who can see/and admit a new LS to the calendar.
Your .org / .com argument is fairly weak, unless of course Bedrock is going to break out a state of Florida Chapter 212 or 617 filing.
In basic research, Tshot.com was registered on Dec 27,2003 (and for the record currently for sale for $3700 according to the site that comes up), Tshot.org on Nov 23, 2004. Obviously, the .com simply wasn’t available so it was registered .org. If dynamiscalendar.com bothers you so much, you may use dynamiscalendar.org. Or dynamiscalendar.net for that matter. They all go to the same place.
Bedrock will undeniably point out, accurately, that Dynamiscalendar.com redirects the Bahmut calendar to a LS run site for their calendar postings. The reason I did this is pretty clear. First, it contains NA,EU,and JP LS from the entire server, not a handful of NA LS. Second, the LS in question creted an entirely separate application, area, and tool for the calendar over a year ago. It is the epitome of what a Calendar should be. Many of the ideas for Dynamiscalendar, and many of the problems I see with using Tshot, came from looking at the Bahmut calendar and how they do things.
But, to counter it, I would point to Lakshmi server, who has had their calendar maintained by a LS called Rusty Buckets for sometime now. The leader of that LS came to Dynamiscalendar, requested access, was given it and now posts his LS times there as well as at his own site. He also mentions their calendar is used by a few NA LS. He simply recognized that this was a another tool, one which may or may not be better but one that has the benefit of centrality. One which he admits may one day replace his own. He’s given the link to other LS as well.
Carbuncle has 6 LS currently using DynamisCalendar. Since each server also has its own forum, people can resolve issues in the same place. One arose for carbuncle, a post was made, problem solved.
My point in stating all this is to show, that even when it’s a LS currently responsible for their server’s calendar, they have recognized the potential and greater benefit of Dynamiscalendar and what it can be, even beyond what they themselves have done or are doing. I point this out because it was clearly a act of communication and openness that led these LS to come to Dynamiscalendar and post. If they can, what can’t Tshot/Spike Flail?
In short, Dynamiscalendar.com isn’t going anywhere, others use it from other Servers. It’s growing, 3 more people wered added to the calendars this AM in fact. So to say shut it down, isn’t going to get you anywhere.
