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#1227 May 15 2010 at 9:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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The One and Only chewzer wrote:
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You can't edit or multipost for a page claim. Everyone who's been doing it and claiming it as a page claim are all frauds.

For once, I actually agree with Fynlar.


Wait there's rules in this thread?!
#1228 May 15 2010 at 9:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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This thread needs more bacon in it.
#1229 May 15 2010 at 9:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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#1230 May 15 2010 at 11:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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Actually I'm doing quite well because I just got Homam Hands to complete my Homam set! Finally! Been wanting these things for years now.
Just for this except a "FUUUUUUUUU" /tell.

homam envy.


I was wondering who that random tell was from lmao.

Yeah just got my final hands piece today. THANKS EVERYONE I LOVE YOU!
#1231 May 16 2010 at 12:33 AM Rating: Excellent
This school year needs to end so I can return to a normal state of functioning. I CFH-ed a Blob today while trying to disengage from simple inattentive sleepiness. Rage.
#1232 May 16 2010 at 4:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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Dynas wrote:
Well personally I couldn't say it because I'm not a scientist, but I am a thinker. The whole discussion reminds me of racism and children. Ever notice how children don't care who's black,white,red,yellow,green, whatever they only care to play with someone. It's until someone teaches them racism that they act differently.

I believe that's the concept you're trying to get across psychologically. However, racism isn't something that's scientifically defined as say light.

If you were to first look at a color without knowing it's name, would it be any different than if you did?

Look at this color. Try to describe it without naming it. You could say its tone is bright. The color is very vibrant and is eye catching. But after awhile you'll run out of things to describe it. Then you might compare it to other things around you that look similar to the color. I've seen a version of this color at sunset for example.

My belief is, it doesn't matter if we're taught the color's name or what they look like. They would be that way anywho regardless of their name. We would find other ways to describe the color to assign it a value. Naming it is more efficient and easier to remember than, "Sunset-looking-vibrant-color".


That is pretty much the crux of the argument though.

Your analogy to babies is not without research evidence. As I mentioned in a one of my posts previously, babies' performance in oddball colour studies does suggest that they respond to actual differences in colour, i.e. its wavelength. However, after and beyond 2-4 months of age, for some reason that perception changes. People no longer respond to colours based on their actual appearance alone. Now we have a problem about whether actually assigning it a name has altered our interpretation of these colours or whether we're actually seeing colours as they really are.

Differences in "colour vision" appear globally, e.g. Africans' "grue", Koreans' "yellow", etc. They would swear blindly that our colour perception is completely wrong and/or different to ours, assuming we could communicate in equivalent terms with them; after all, some languages do not even have a word for "colour".

Now, there may be actual, quantitative differences of light wavelength which produces subjectively different colour experiences. However, the webpage you sited approaches colour in the English language. The inherent epistemology of organising colour in the way they have presented is not globally sound; it is not generalisable.

The point is we can never really know what the actual structure of what we're seeing is what we're seeing, because it's muddied by language -- the way in which we simultaneously label these colours and communicate them to others -- and the very possibility that learning a language has moulded the way we see things anyway.

Studies with babies could be a very good indication that there are pre-language "labelling" abilities, but thus far it can only be elicited using comparison tasks between categories. Babies get bored of looking at the "green" category after a while, despite each one being what we might say would be physically different from the rest. But we're using this colour system we know to prove the colour system we know, which one may argue is circular logic.

Modern day methods and ways of thinking, I believe, tend to over-aggrandise the empiricist, scientific basis of doing things. I too think there must be something physically different about colour on the wavelength level, but I also argue how can we actually know this. And know it definitely.

In essence, we're saying the same thing, except you're approaching it from a cognitive load perspective and I'm thinking more ontologically. :P

I think I need a coffee.
#1233 May 16 2010 at 6:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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Who would have thought that 10,000 pages would contain such an in depth debate about colour :P
#1234 May 16 2010 at 6:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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10k is full of 10,000 surprises!

Now then, let's turn it up a notch. People are all up camping the My hovercraft is full of eels NM, and his ToD is far too... predictable.

So, everyone go to your posts-per-page drop-down menu, close your eyes, and click one of the choices. Try not to click something weird; there are no insurance policies if you do.

Now then...

WHO WILL CLAIM THE CLAIM NOW?! AND FOR WHOM?! :D
#1235 May 16 2010 at 6:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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Oh, look. There's a filter for acquiring the place at the top of the forum manuscript, containing a vehicle full of aguilliformes.
#1236 May 16 2010 at 7:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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#1237 May 16 2010 at 8:21 AM Rating: Excellent
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This thread needs more bacon in it.


Oh, Bacon. At first I was like "What the **** is that? A magic carpet?"
#1238 May 16 2010 at 8:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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And there are no rules to 10,000 pages, but its pretty fail to page claim after your own post. The rule comes from when I had contests for reaching benchmark pages in the original 100 pages (page 69 and 100). If you claimed a page before page 69 or 100 you got a gil bonus, to the bonus prize if you claimed page 69 or 100 (69 was 69k, 100 was 100k. I think the bonus was 10k a page if you claimed it in addition). If you posted the last post on a page, and then claimed the next page, it voided your page claim and you didn't get the bonus. It did encourage people to post more though.
#1239 May 16 2010 at 8:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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Ferigor wrote:
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This thread needs more bacon in it.


Oh, Bacon. At first I was like "What the @#%^ is that? A magic carpet?"

Does the magic carpet looks like that?
#1240 May 16 2010 at 10:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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#1241 May 16 2010 at 10:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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Random thought (which is, I know, completely unheard of in 10k), but looking at the new teaser update announcement picture on the POL site... the third pic, far right, of the mithra in RNG relic attire holding a MORTALLY WOUNDED (or very exhausted) mithra wearing the weskit...

Am I the only one who, upon looking at that pic, thought, "It's because you're wearing a Denali Bonnet"?

Edited, May 16th 2010 4:29pm by Secretkeeper
#1242 May 16 2010 at 11:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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Secretkeeper wrote:
Random thought (which is, I know, completely unheard of in 10k), but looking at the new teaser update announcement picture on the POL site... the third pic, far right, of the mithra in RNG relic attire holding a MORTALLY WOUNDED (or very exhausted) mithra wearing the weskit...

Am I the only one who, upon looking at that pic, thought, "It's because you're wearing a Denali Bonnet"?


I hadn't noticed that... Maybe in the coming update we will be able to equip gear that our subjob can use, but at half stats!!

Hows that for wild, rediculous speculation?
#1243 May 16 2010 at 11:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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Pud wrote:
Secretkeeper wrote:
Random thought (which is, I know, completely unheard of in 10k), but looking at the new teaser update announcement picture on the POL site... the third pic, far right, of the mithra in RNG relic attire holding a MORTALLY WOUNDED (or very exhausted) mithra wearing the weskit...

Am I the only one who, upon looking at that pic, thought, "It's because you're wearing a Denali Bonnet"?


I hadn't noticed that... Maybe in the coming update we will be able to equip gear that our subjob can use, but at half stats!!

Hows that for wild, rediculous speculation?
Very wild.. also whats with the war wearing pld type armor using a new ws..
#1244 May 16 2010 at 12:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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Szabo wrote:
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This thread needs more bacon in it.


Oh, Bacon. At first I was like "What the @#%^ is that? A magic carpet?"

Does the magic carpet looks like that?

Perhaps it's a magic carpet of bacon.
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#1245 May 16 2010 at 2:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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Looks like bacon to me, though I have been hurt before. o_o
#1246 May 16 2010 at 2:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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Lady Psylight wrote:
Looks like bacon to me, though I have been hurt before. o_o

You been hurt by bacon before?
#1247 May 16 2010 at 3:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm curious to get home and see these ASCII pics. They don't translate well to my MotoDroid.
#1248 May 16 2010 at 3:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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Szabo wrote:
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Looks like bacon to me, though I have been hurt before. o_o

You been hurt by bacon before?


When it spits hot oil in your face... not so nice!
#1249 May 16 2010 at 3:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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Pud wrote:
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Looks like bacon to me, though I have been hurt before. o_o

You been hurt by bacon before?


When it spits hot oil in your face... not so nice!


That's not oil! It's bacon grease, dawg.
#1250 May 16 2010 at 3:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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I was camping once and we needed to get rid of the bacon grease, so my friend dumped the grease into a wax paper cup. Luckily he was wearing gloves, but the **** melted right out of his hand. Good times.
#1251 May 16 2010 at 3:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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Page Claim!


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