Elinda wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Sigh. That's precisely why the 2nd amendment exists.
Huh? They're free to ignore your vote. They are not free to take your gun. They have to actually take it. You know, by force. What do you think would happen? The government would just say "Ok. We're disbanding congress and all state authorities and moving our troops in to maintain order. Now everyone just hand over your guns as part of this peaceful process" and folks would all just go along?
Um... And at the risk of stating the obvious, wouldn't that be a lot harder to do if they didn't have a nice list of everyone who owned a gun?
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How can your vote stand between you and a non democratic way of life? Seriously. Stop and think about that. Voting is an outgrowth of a democratic system of government, but voting does not cause democracy to exist, nor does it prevent it from failing to exist. You can't vote your way out of dictatorship, nor will voting prevent a dictator from taking power. You're foolish to think so.
Yes. And that works only so long as everyone agrees to abide by the results of election and be bound by the same rules. Those things work once you are in a democracy. They do not cause democracy to exist, nor protect it from being destroyed. You are foolish to think so.
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You think everyone having the right to own guns trumps that.
I think that everyone having the right to own guns ensures that sufficient people will own guns such that it would be very very difficult for any one person or group to just take control and take away all of the rest of our rights. One can argue that the right to own guns is what protects the rest of our rights. Take that one away and the only thing protecting the rest of them is politeness.
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You think that because you're allowed to own a gun by some stupid 2nd amendment loophole that you can play vigilante, raise a posse, saddle up and go after the tyrannical sheriff that fucked your cow? You have the right to own a gun or a club or a crossbow or a frying pan or a noose. You don't have the right to use any of those weapons to exact your will on others. That makes the 2nd amendment stuff kind of useless.
The folks who wrote the constitution disagree with you. So perhaps you're missing something?
Let me point out again that referring to the right to own a gun as a "stupid 2nd amendment loophole" also grossly undermines the claim of any level of reasonableness on your part.
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Go shut up now. you're so stupid. You'll argue the most stupid stuff just to keep arguing.
Arguing that the 2nd amendment of our constitution is important is "stupid"? Really?
Fortunately for you, you are not required to understand how the 2nd amendment protects your rights and freedoms for it to do so. Unfortunately if sufficient numbers of people do come to think like you do, then they may just be dumb enough to vote away that very protection. Which would be both sad and ironic.
Edited, Feb 25th 2013 7:21pm by gbaji