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#1027 Apr 05 2013 at 10:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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Just say "clothes shopping" and we can move on to the next misunderstanding.
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#1028 Apr 05 2013 at 10:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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That is definitely a feminine name. I can say that because I acknowledge that there exist female and male gender names. If you can't acknowledge a difference, then you can't comment because you have no baseline.

I reserve the right to frequently and arbitrarily redefine my baseline to serve my short term needs.

Honestly I think I've lost track of what we were arguing about. This has something to do with bathrooms right?


Edited, Apr 5th 2013 9:56am by someproteinguy
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#1029 Apr 05 2013 at 11:11 AM Rating: Good
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someproteinguy wrote:

Honestly I think I've lost track of what we were arguing about. This has something to do with bathrooms right?
Close. It's about bathroom rights.
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#1030 Apr 05 2013 at 11:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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We have no bathroom rights, it's not in the original constitution.
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#1031 Apr 05 2013 at 11:24 AM Rating: Good
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It's about bathroom rights.
And Anne Marie Deacon, what about her rights?
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#1032 Apr 05 2013 at 11:25 AM Rating: Good
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Our towns rules say that Female women get to use the bathrooms on Mon & every other Weds. Male men get to use it on Tues & every other Thur. Male women get to use the bathroom every Friday and the opposite weds and Female men on Sundays and the opposite Thurs.

Bushes are available from sun up to sun down and have no sex or gender limitations.
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#1033 Apr 05 2013 at 11:27 AM Rating: Good
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The bathrooms are all closed on saturday? Or are they open to everyone?

By the way, alma, i noticed you ignored my question. Any chance i could get an answer?

Edited, Apr 5th 2013 1:28pm by Rachel9
#1034 Apr 05 2013 at 11:28 AM Rating: Good
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Rachel9 wrote:
The bathrooms are all closed on saturday? Or are they open to everyone?

Edited, Apr 5th 2013 1:27pm by Rachel9
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#1035 Apr 05 2013 at 12:57 PM Rating: Default
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Rachel9 wrote:
The bathrooms are all closed on saturday? Or are they open to everyone?

By the way, alma, i noticed you ignored my question. Any chance i could get an answer?

Edited, Apr 5th 2013 1:28pm by Rachel9


What question? It wasn't intentional. In any case, you have ignored at least 10 of my questions and entire posts. Hypocrite much?
#1036 Apr 05 2013 at 1:10 PM Rating: Decent
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What question?
Are you transgender?
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Hypocrite much?
I'm not demanding an answer, i just asked if you could answer it. If you don't want to, then don't.
#1037 Apr 05 2013 at 1:30 PM Rating: Default
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Are you transgender?


No, I was giving an example, not literally referring to me. I know plenty of homosexual men with predominate female gender traits and homosexual women with predominate male gender traits. According to your argument, those homosexual men would be using the womens' bathroom. Since they are men, they would use urinals.
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I see. Well i only asked because you said
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As a human, I posses both male and female traits. Therefore, if the bathroom is segregated by gender, I have the right to use either bathroom.

So, as a cisgender male, you actually would not have the right to use the women's bathroom.
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I know plenty of homosexual men with predominate female gender traits and homosexual women with predominate male gender traits. According to your argument, those homosexual men would be using the womens' bathroom.
No, they would not be.

Edited, Apr 5th 2013 3:33pm by Rachel9
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someproteinguy wrote:
We have no bathroom rights, it's not in the original constitution.


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Since they are men, they would use urinals.


I don't like using urinals, too much splash back.
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Can I just say that "cisgender" is a horrible word? Looks bad, sounds abrasive and reeks of "term developed by advocates trying hard to push it into the mainstream lexicon".

Which, if you're going to do the third, at least make a word that's not aggressively unattractive.

Edit: Yes, I read its origins and the prefix cis-, etc. Still a nasty looking word.

Edited, Apr 5th 2013 2:41pm by Jophiel
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#1042 Apr 05 2013 at 1:40 PM Rating: Good
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Can I just say that "cisgender" is a horrible word?
No. Bigot.
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#1043 Apr 05 2013 at 1:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Can I just say that "cisgender" is a horrible word?
Well i guess you can say that. It's still the appropriate word though.
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Eh, only in that someone recently coined it and decided it. It's not as though it's been in common parlance for... well, ever (hence my third point).

It seems the word "gender" is from Middle English which probably helps explain why someone just taping an "appropriate" Latin prefix onto it created a jarring looking word.

Edited, Apr 5th 2013 3:01pm by Jophiel
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someproteinguy wrote:
We have no bathroom rights, it's not in the original constitution.


US Constitution wrote:
We with Peeholes of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Uni-can, establish Justice, insure dualistic TP use, provide for the common depants, promote the gastro-intestinal Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Lavatories to ourselves and our Posteriors, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United Sanitary Stations of America.

This is why you don't get your books on tape from the library. Some kid runs over the thing a hundred times with his matchbox car, and nothing sounds the same anymore. Smiley: disappointed

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#1046 Apr 05 2013 at 2:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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Eh, only in that someone recently coined it and decided it. It's not as though it's been in common parlance for... well, ever (hence my third point).

It seems the word "gender" is from Middle English which probably helps explain why someone just taping an "appropriate" Latin prefix onto it created a jarring looking word.
I can't get past all the organic chemistry. I can only assume someone's gender has been rotated around a double bond or something.
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#1047 Apr 05 2013 at 2:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Eh, only in that someone recently coined it and decided it. It's not as though it's been in common parlance for... well, ever (hence my third point).

It seems the word "gender" is from Middle English which probably helps explain why someone just taping an "appropriate" Latin prefix onto it created a jarring looking word.
It's had a wikipedia page for 11 years! Surely that counts for something!
#1048 Apr 05 2013 at 2:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Rachel,

If you are unable to explain what the female or male gender is, then you don't have a baseline to judge other people's genders.

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Well i guess you can say that. It's still the appropriate word though.

Based on what standard?

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So, as a cisgender male, you actually would not have the right to use the women's bathroom.


..... IN that scenario, I (or anyone) wouldn't be a cisgender male, but a human biological man with both gender traits. Therefore, I (or anyone) could use either bathroom (if bathrooms were based off of gender)

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No, they would not be.


If the woman's bathroom were based off of gender, then any person with a female gender would be able to use it.
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Jophiel wrote:
Eh, only in that someone recently coined it and decided it. It's not as though it's been in common parlance for... well, ever (hence my third point).

It seems the word "gender" is from Middle English which probably helps explain why someone just taping an "appropriate" Latin prefix onto it created a jarring looking word.

Edited, Apr 5th 2013 3:01pm by Jophiel


Agreed on all counts. It's actually of mild import, because if the word looks or sounds "off", it has less of a chance of being picked up with any regularity.
#1050 Apr 05 2013 at 2:29 PM Rating: Decent
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If you are unable to explain what the female or male gender is, then you don't have a baseline to judge other people's genders.
Just like i can't judge what tastes good, because i can't explain why something tastes good or bad?
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Based on what standard?
The standard.
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..... IN that scenario, I (or anyone) wouldn't be a cisgender male, but a human biological man with both gender traits. Therefore, I (or anyone) could use either bathroom (if bathrooms were based off of gender)
But you are a cisgender man. Having a few "gender traits" of the opposite gender doesn't make you trans. If you don't answer "yes" to the question "are you a woman (and not a man)?", then you can't use the women's bathroom. And if you do, then you can't use the men's bathroom.
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If the woman's bathroom were based off of gender, then any person with a female gender would be able to use it.
Correct, all women, trans or cis would be able to. That includes exactly zero homosexual men (if they were trans, they would just be heterosexual women).

Edited, Apr 5th 2013 4:30pm by Rachel9
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