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#2102 Jan 11 2012 at 7:07 PM Rating: Excellent
Religion and the afterlife becomes so much more fun when you toss reincarnation into the equation.
#2103 Jan 11 2012 at 7:23 PM Rating: Good
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Created sick and commanded to be well. Makes sense to me.



It is the point of sentience and free-will..
Trees and quasars were created without those things. In your context "sick" merely means we think for ourselves but that is what separates us FROM trees and quasars.
We have a choice to GET well: getting well in our case mean eternal perfection... everything else in the universe has no choice of that and will burn away without emotion. That is why(and how) we more than just animals, vegetables, and minerals.


So then I said; I never want to catch you sniffing there AGAIN, MOM!!



No we don't. We have the choice to ignore those things and submit. Kind of defeats the whole purpose of free will if you're supposed to throw it away to be seen as "well".

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#2104 Jan 19 2012 at 8:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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The authors investigated the role of homosexual arousal in exclusively heterosexual men who admitted negative affect toward homosexual individuals. Participants consisted of a group of homophobic men (n = 35) and a group of nonhomophobic men (n = 29); they were assigned to groups on the basis of their scores on the Index of Homophobia (W. W. Hudson & W. A. Ricketts, 1980). The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes, and changes in penile circumference were monitored. They also completed an Aggression Questionnaire (A. H. Buss & M. Perry, 1992). Both groups exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female homosexual videos. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.


More liek hetero man gets aroused at homosexual stuff and feels icky, and ickyness leads to anger, and anger leads to hate, amirite, Amalieque?
#2105 Jan 22 2012 at 12:49 AM Rating: Default
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The authors investigated the role of homosexual arousal in exclusively heterosexual men who admitted negative affect toward homosexual individuals. Participants consisted of a group of homophobic men (n = 35) and a group of nonhomophobic men (n = 29); they were assigned to groups on the basis of their scores on the Index of Homophobia (W. W. Hudson & W. A. Ricketts, 1980). The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes, and changes in penile circumference were monitored. They also completed an Aggression Questionnaire (A. H. Buss & M. Perry, 1992). Both groups exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female homosexual videos. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.


More liek hetero man gets aroused at homosexual stuff and feels icky, and ickyness leads to anger, and anger leads to hate, amirite, Amalieque?


Hetero men don't get aroused at homosexual men stuff... that would probably put you in the **** category.. try again. Actually, don't try again, drink Clorox.
#2106 Jan 22 2012 at 1:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hetero men don't get aroused at homosexual men stuff... that would probably put you in the **** category.. try again. Actually, don't try again, drink Clorox.


That's not the point, ******. The point is that homphobes are aroused by gay **** & they're either unaware that it turns them on or are denying it.

Which explains post 206 completely.
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#2107 Jan 22 2012 at 1:36 AM Rating: Excellent
Also: Being turned on by a sexual scene, no matter who the participants, is not necessarily indicative of sexual preference.

Someone who thinks it is... well. That says a lot about that person, I suppose.
#2108 Jan 22 2012 at 7:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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Also: Being turned on by a sexual scene, no matter who the participants, is not necessarily indicative of sexual preference.

Someone who thinks it is... well. That says a lot about that person, I suppose.

Virgins get a lot of things wrong about sex.
#2109Almalieque, Posted: Jan 22 2012 at 8:15 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Give me a scenario when it wouldn't be an indication.
#2110 Jan 22 2012 at 8:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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Autophobia.
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#2111 Jan 22 2012 at 9:44 AM Rating: Good
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You can't be a homophobe and practice homosexuality.? Why not?

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#2112 Jan 22 2012 at 11:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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You can't be a homophobe and practice homosexuality.


Sure you can, you just deny it's gay. Like all those dudes that do gay stuff on the downlow, like how prisoners raping other prisoners don't see themselves as gay, like how preachers get blowjobs from gay prostitutes...& the list goes on. The outlet for the shame they feel for those acts is their outward homophobia.

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The "homophobe" must be a heterosexual, which means he can't be attracted without being gay.


Actually, the study seemed to imply that only the heterosexuals were conclusively not gay, and only homophobes were actually turned on by homosexual behavior. Does getting turned on by gay dudes doing it make you gay? Maybe, I guess it all depends on how turned on.

Guilt about being turned on by the same sex seems to be the leading cause of homophobia!
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#2113 Jan 22 2012 at 12:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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You can't be a homophobe and practice homosexuality.? Why not?

Don't tell the Republicans this.
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#2114 Jan 22 2012 at 12:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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Also: Being turned on by a sexual scene, no matter who the participants, is not necessarily indicative of sexual preference.

Someone who thinks it is... well. That says a lot about that person, I suppose.
This reminds me of a Youtube vid I saw of a twelve year-old girl doing a "harem" dance. The choreography was extremely complex. Her footwork intricate. Her varied arm movements very graceful and all her movements were hitting the beat of the music precisely. She was doing the requisite belly rolls and hip shimmying of the usual remarkable muscular control, but they certainly didn't feature above the leg and arm work. The choreography looked very traditional and tribal as opposed to sexual. Lots of hand gestures up in the air, and out to the side. She'd obviously had dance lessons for a long time. She wore a bright happy smile, and had bright, happy eyes. Her hair was loose down her back. If she was wearing make-up, it wasn't obvious.

She wore a gorgeous costume in shades of pale green. The Harem pants were opaque, extremely voluminous, completely hid her legs, were heavily beaded around the hips, and high riding. Her bodice, while cut in a traditional, "adult" shape, was so heavily beaded it completely covered her torso half way up to her neck, and almost all the way down to the top of her pants. None of her dance movements flashed more bare skin.

And yet, in between the comments complementing the girl for such technically brilliant and happy dancing, the comments section was full of diatribes against her mother for dressing her like a *****.

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#2115 Jan 22 2012 at 1:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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Youtube vid [...] the comments section
Diagnosed the problem.
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#2116 Jan 22 2012 at 2:35 PM Rating: Excellent
Almalieque wrote:
Belkira wrote:
Also: Being turned on by a sexual scene, no matter who the participants, is not necessarily indicative of sexual preference.

Someone who thinks it is... well. That says a lot about that person, I suppose.


Give me a scenario when it wouldn't be an indication.


Every scenario where a completely heterosexual person is turned on by the image of a same-sex couple in a sexual encounter...?
#2117Almalieque, Posted: Jan 24 2012 at 6:12 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) A man being aroused by watching two men having sexual encounters is not heterosexual. If he says he is, then he is in denial. He's Bi-curious at a minimum.
#2118 Jan 24 2012 at 7:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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A man being aroused by watching two men having sexual encounters is not heterosexual


Again, I counter with "how aroused?"

Quarter mast: Inconclusive. Penises sometimes have a mind of their own.
Half mast: 50-50. "Glass is half full" gay.
Full Mast: odds are they're at least kind of into it.
full mast + rubbing: the homophobic **** of shame
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#2119 Jan 24 2012 at 9:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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Almalieque wrote:
If he says he is, then he is in denial.

And therein lies the root of all homophobia. Welcome to the point.
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#2120 Jan 24 2012 at 11:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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Nilatai wrote:
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If he says he is, then he is in denial.

And therein lies the root of all homophobia. Welcome to the point.
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#2121 Jan 24 2012 at 1:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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Are you saying that you don't see anything wrong with a grown man getting off on his child **** collection because that necessarily isn't an indication that he's into little children? Really?


You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
#2122 Jan 24 2012 at 2:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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Figured that out on page one.
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#2123 Jan 25 2012 at 12:49 AM Rating: Default
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Belkira wrote:
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Are you saying that you don't see anything wrong with a grown man getting off on his child **** collection because that necessarily isn't an indication that he's into little children? Really?


You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?


I guess you're not going to answer that question. It's ok if you don't see a problem with grown men getting off on kiddie **** because it's not the children, it's the act. Whatever.. that's absurd and you know it.
#2124 Jan 25 2012 at 1:16 AM Rating: Excellent
Almalieque wrote:
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Are you saying that you don't see anything wrong with a grown man getting off on his child **** collection because that necessarily isn't an indication that he's into little children? Really?


You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?


I guess you're not going to answer that question. It's ok if you don't see a problem with grown men getting off on kiddie **** because it's not the children, it's the act. Whatever.. that's absurd and you know it.


Get back to me when you understand what it is about "kiddie ****" that turns adults on. Until then, you might want to keep your mouth shut, as you have no idea what you're talking about.
#2125 Jan 25 2012 at 3:32 AM Rating: Default
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Nilatai wrote:
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If he says he is, then he is in denial.

And therein lies the root of all homophobia. Welcome to the point.


That makes no sense. There is no correlation with hatred and/or fear of something and actually being that something. According to your theory, all Klansmen hate minorities because they are indeed the said minorities that they hate.

It is highly possible to just hate or fear something out pure ignorance and that probability is much higher than the probability of someone hating or fearing something because of who they are..
#2126 Jan 25 2012 at 3:38 AM Rating: Default
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Belkira wrote:
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Are you saying that you don't see anything wrong with a grown man getting off on his child **** collection because that necessarily isn't an indication that he's into little children? Really?


You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?


I guess you're not going to answer that question. It's ok if you don't see a problem with grown men getting off on kiddie **** because it's not the children, it's the act. Whatever.. that's absurd and you know it.


Get back to me when you understand what it is about "kiddie ****" that turns adults on. Until then, you might want to keep your mouth shut, as you have no idea what you're talking about.


If you don't want to answer the question, then fine, but stop trying to accuse me of not knowing what I'm talking about.

You said the following
Belkira wrote:
Also: Being turned on by a sexual scene, no matter who the participants, is not necessarily indicative of sexual preference.


So I asked a simple question. Do you or do you not see anything wrong with grown men getting off on kiddie ****? According to your theory, you shouldn't because they are aroused of the activity, not necessarily the people involved.

So, if you support watching kiddie **** (not the creation of), just say so, else retract your statement.
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