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#1977 Jan 04 2012 at 5:24 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
Everything I know of military ranking, I learned from MASH.

Klinger made Sergeant once but, IIRC, he asked Hawkeye and Trapper for help in getting bumped back down because all his old Corporal buddies treated him differently.

I thought that was Radar? When they had him promoted to Lieutenant.

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Congrats btw, gaxey.
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#1978 Jan 05 2012 at 12:59 PM Rating: Default
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Logaxe, does your career path lead to a commission?
Like absolutely everything else in our wonderful Armed Forces, it's completely a voluntary decision unless someone tells you to. I have no intentions since I really can't stand officers, but for the longest time I had no intentions of taking an E7 slot either so I guess we'll just see how things go.


Financially ( in reference to short term), you would be better off staying enlisted. You would probably be taking a pay cut and wouldn't be able to retire as an officer (not like it would matter) unless you do 10 additional years. Then you also would be leaving being treated with respect to being treated as a Gold Bar... That's something Senior NCO's tend to have more of a problem adjusting to as opposed to someone fresh to the military.

I've seen it done several times, it's just if it were me, I would rather go warrant and get the best of both worlds.
#1979 Jan 05 2012 at 1:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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Alma wrote:
Financially ( in reference to short term), you would be better off staying enlisted. You would probably be taking a pay cut and wouldn't be able to retire as an officer (not like it would matter) unless you do 10 additional years.
You do realize why everyone calls you an idiot right? Take this for example. I explained to you last time how the change would work, in how if you enlist and your paycheck was bigger as an NCO than an officer you would continue to make the higher amount until it catches up. I didn't even hint at it, I explained just like that in small words exactly. The only time you get a pay cut is if you are charged with an article and/or are demoted, and even when demoted chances are no one wants to do the paperwork so you continue making the same change anyway. As far as retirement, it doesn't change either because it's based on time of service, and has nothing to do with rank. You can retire as an E3 once you've done 20 years active. The only difference is the size of the retirement check. What was it, four years and you still don't know any of this? ****, I learned all about my paycheck while I was still in boot camp.

It's not even having to explain things to you, it's having to do it multiple fucking times and your inability to internalize it.
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#1980 Jan 05 2012 at 1:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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You weren't supposed to read it silly, it was for Kelvyquo

Edited, Jan 4th 2012 3:28pm by Xsarus
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#1981Almalieque, Posted: Jan 05 2012 at 1:18 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You should go talk to finance...
#1982 Jan 05 2012 at 1:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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Alma wrote:
I took the word from every other NCO who ever crossed over to the dark side.
Yeah, lying to save face is cute and all but you should just admit you forgot. It's still stupid, but it's the lesser stupid option available to you.
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#1983 Jan 05 2012 at 1:36 PM Rating: Default
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lolgaxe wrote:
Alma wrote:
I took the word from every other NCO who ever crossed over to the dark side.
Yeah, lying to save face is cute and all but you should just admit you forgot. It's still stupid, but it's the lesser stupid option available to you.


How is that a lie?

I'll ask my XO tomorrow. He was prior service. It only affects a small percentage of people since most people change over prior to that point. The others come in making OE pay, which is like an additional grade pay in itself. Coming in with 4 days and a wake up, will gain a 2LT an additional 1k a month (if I remember correctly). You eventually make more money, but then you cap out at O4 I believe with OE pay. At that point, if you retire at 20 years, you'll end up making less money as your full 20 year officer counterparts. This is simply due to the fact that you wont make O5 prior to that and they will.
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Nilatai wrote:
I thought that was Radar? When they had him promoted to Lieutenant.
Wiki on Radar wrote:
He was very briefly promoted to 2nd Lieutenant as the result of a poker game, but soon became disillusioned with the rank and persuaded Hawkeye and B.J. to get him demoted back to Corporal.

You remembered better than I did. It seems Klinger was promoted the traditional route and stayed at his new rank.

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#1985 Jan 05 2012 at 2:17 PM Rating: Excellent
Congrats lolgaxe!

Even after you retire, if you were due to a promotion but couldn't get it for some reason, you can argue about it after the fact if necessary. My father was E-7 and was supposed to be promoted to E-8 but had a heart attack (doh) and was forced to retire suddenly for medical reasons (he served 22 years followed by another 12 in civil service.) A bit of strong arming and a visit to his congressman (at the time, Charlie Norwood, with whom he remained good friends until my dad passed away - apparently they were in the Army dental school together or something) got that straightened out and he collected E-8 retirement pay grade for the rest of his life.

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#1986 Jan 05 2012 at 2:48 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
I thought that was Radar? When they had him promoted to Lieutenant.
Wiki on Radar wrote:
He was very briefly promoted to 2nd Lieutenant as the result of a poker game, but soon became disillusioned with the rank and persuaded Hawkeye and B.J. to get him demoted back to Corporal.

You remembered better than I did. It seems Klinger was promoted the traditional route and stayed at his new rank.

I think when Klinger was promoted was the point where he stopped wearing a dress.
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#1987 Jan 05 2012 at 5:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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lolgaxe wrote:
Alma wrote:
I took the word from every other NCO who ever crossed over to the dark side.
Yeah, lying to save face is cute and all but you should just admit you forgot. It's still stupid, but it's the lesser stupid option available to you.

Or he could just admit he's getting all his info from his "funny uncle".
#1988Kelvyquayo, Posted: Jan 05 2012 at 6:08 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ari,
#1989 Jan 05 2012 at 6:16 PM Rating: Good
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Kelvyquayo wrote:
we all want to believe that we have build this impenetrable fortress of impeccable righteousness

Based on the tone of most of your posts, it seems like it's mostly you.
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#1991 Jan 05 2012 at 6:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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I have an impenetrable town home of impeccable righteousness.


I only have a semi-permeable timeshare of suspect morality. Smiley: glare
#1992 Jan 05 2012 at 7:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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#1993 Jan 05 2012 at 7:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
I have an impenetrable town home of impeccable righteousness.
I only have a semi-permeable timeshare of suspect morality. Smiley: glare

The homeowner's association would never let me get away with that.
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#1994 Jan 05 2012 at 7:48 PM Rating: Good
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#1995 Jan 05 2012 at 8:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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#1996 Jan 05 2012 at 8:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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OMG me too!
#1997 Jan 05 2012 at 8:42 PM Rating: Good
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Let's get some string and a lighter and party like it's 1599.
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#1998 Jan 05 2012 at 8:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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#1999 Jan 05 2012 at 8:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
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OMG me too!



I apparently have a smallish mountain lion.

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#2000Kelvyquayo, Posted: Jan 05 2012 at 10:51 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Am I supposed to act like I think I'm wrong? You accuse me of self-righteousness because I refuse to pretend that what I have experienced isn't a fact.
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Kelvyquayo wrote:
Am I supposed to act like I think I'm wrong? You accuse me of self-righteousness because I refuse to pretend that what I have experienced isn't a fact.
If you really don't believe me then ask yourself why it upsets you so much.
OH; because you are actually the self-righteous one.

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