Omnibus Politics Thread: Campaign 2016 EditionFollow

Right now I'm wondering just how long it will be before all the members of the ****** parade start really regretting the choices they've made as each individual person becomes slowly effected by said choices. ...or will they just blame Obama?

I'm trying to imagine how bad things will be a year from today. I mean bad by our standards, not bad for a hedge fund manager who is also a doomsday prepper.

I can't wait for the new "war on terror" to get started. I wonder if they'll draft my son when he turns 12.

Edited, Feb 7th 2017 10:06pm by Kuwoobie

Naw Trump will get blamed eventually. He's made enough enemies that it's only a matter of time before he's turned on. No reason to do so now though, he's too popular, and there's too much work to be done right now to shoot yourself in the foot just because you disagree with a member of your own party. Will be interesting to see how many people distance themselves from him at the mid-terms though.

Dunno, it does no good for people who don't volunteer to see the icky side of these conflicts. All you get is more backlash to your imperialistic goals. They return home and talk of atrocities and whatnot; completely unhelpful. Compulsory military service would run counter to the national interest. Besides there's still more value in fear than in war right now. Wars are expensive, so no reason to take the next step if you don't have to. I mean drop a couple of old bombs on some peasants, or give them some leftover guns to shoot each other, that's fine. But no point in wasting money that could line your pockets instead right?



Edited, Feb 7th 2017 12:49pm by someproteinguy

Conquer, loot, and tax. Funding empire building since 6500 BC.

Oh yeah, they hate wasting money, don't they? Especially when it comes to war.

Another thing people tend to do is attribute to me anything I point out that someone else is doing. But, you know, not this time, and not in this thread, but all the other times. Great method to deflect criticism in a manner that is unfalsifiable, since you haven't actually presented any evidence other than insistence that I do this "all the time". But not this time, right?

Meanwhile, you're the one who just now in this thread asked me to present my opinion on "it". Next you'll be asking me where I get my news from, right? Kind of a pattern.



No, I'm not. And I don't think the board is. I think you're deflecting. If anything, you're remembering things that don't exist. I'm extremely precise with my language choice on this forum. Overly so. It's why I tend to be verbose. I'll say the same thing several different ways just to make it absolutely clear what I'm talking about. Doesn't prevent people from still finding the most insane interpretation possible and trying to pin me down with it, but I at least make an effort to be clear to anyone not intentionally trying to twist things around.

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Edited, Feb 7th 2017 6:08pm by TirithRR

Especially when you're linking to a conservative blog cherry-picking results. Fact is, charter schools haven't been shown to be particularly successful as a whole. There's some winners, just as there's some winning public schools, but the net result is at best a wash. Michigan's charter school experiment is widely considered a failure. Been through this enough times on this forum that I don't give enough of a shit to look up links yet again.

Chicago's charter schools have been great at making money for themselves off the "poor minority students" through disciplinary cash fines for things like dress code infractions, eating Cheetos and chewing gum, though. Can't get that sort of protection at a public school.

Honestly, whatever your opinion of the public school system is, there's really no arguing that she's unqualified. She showed that during the hearings where she had no idea how the public school system worked and was confused by IDEA.

You can think the public system needs reform AND actually know something about the public system to give your ideas merit. She doesn't even meet that standard. She bought her way into the post via a combination of cash and political promises which -- in a sad way -- is better than considering the alternative: that fifty GOP senators actually watched her hearings and thought "Yeah, she knows what she's doing."

Edited, Feb 7th 2017 5:44pm by Jophiel

Well, yeah. It's the Party of Trump these days. Whatever Trump wants, the GOP is going to agree with even when it's a humiliatingly stupid choice. Even the theater of Murkowski and Collins voting against was done with the GOP's blessing; if they had actually thought she wasn't suitable they could have blocked her in committee. They only got the blessing to vote "no" on the floor and pretend to be independent because McConnell had the votes to confirm.

Edited, Feb 7th 2017 5:53pm by Jophiel

THISIs the opposite of THIS:

Every pointless, stupid war that America was ever involved in and ever will be is Obama's fault because there are drones and special forces in Yemen. Of course. Thanks for clearing that up, gbaji. I feel so much better about the Iraq war and you know, Vietnam, because there are drones and special forces in Yemen. In the event that there is an even bigger catastrophic war in the middle east that kills thousands of our people and costs trillions of dollars, I can just look back to the great war in Yemen and thank my lucky stars it's not that bad.

That is fantastic.

Precise, but wildly inaccurate.