Omnibus Politics Thread: Campaign 2016 EditionFollow

One more thing to scramble to rationalize on top of the mountain of other turds they're dealing with. It's just fun watching how Tasmanian Devil this administration is becoming. Of course nothing is actually going to be done, Captain Obvious.

I'm also annoyed that the "breaking news" preempted the History of Comedy documentary.

Edited, Mar 3rd 2017 10:17am by lolgaxe

I'm actually sitting here wondering how the heck this doesn't come out during the general election campaign. You'd think someone on the Clinton team would have realized Pence was doing the same thing. Just seems like it's a weird thing to overlook, or at least a weird card not to play if you knew you had it in your hand.

Personally, I'll get mad if he possibly put classified information at risk. Until then, meh.

The fact that you still consider that there might be someone worse does you credit. People are at the point rationalizing away Dubya as being a pretty okay president. And I don't mean GOP partisans who already loved him.
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Personally, I still think Trump has potential to be the best GOP president we've had since Lincoln, if he can get past the early patch. I'm not expecting that he will live up to that potential, but I think it's there. I still suspect I'll look back at the end of his time in office and think "Yep, still better than Hillary."

Yes I will. I mean, I'm not gonna throw a conniption over it. But I'll get mad. Trump and Pence have made me mad a few times. I send them angry tweets, ask how they could be so stupid and move on with my life.

And was any of that info classified? I'll check after I wake up tonight to see if I'm sending Pence an angry tweet.

Heh. Just did a bit more research on this, and apparently not only is it not illegal in Indiana law for the Governor to discuss work related stuff on a private email account, it is actually illegal for him to use his government provided account for anything that isn't strictly work related. Specifically, anything that's political in nature (like say discussions with campaign donors, conversations about anything not directly related to actions he's taking as Governor, etc). He's actually more or less required by law to have a separate private email account and he's actually safer under the law to lean more towards using it in preference to the government account if there's even a question as to whether it may fall outside "official work" territory.

Um... Yeah. So not even remotely similar. Honestly, the biggest concern (and surprise) is that people still have AOL accounts. Really? I mean, this is Indiana, but still...

*ZING!*
















No one comes with him, either!

_DOUBLEZING!

Well, then I guess you're right by default. I can't see any point in getting mad if I can't be at least moderately sure he did something that will make me mad.

Easy enough for a sitting President to declassify orders from a previous administration. Let's see what you've got, Mango Man.

Someone on the Twitters pointed out that by tweeting about it, Trump may have opened up the results of the surveillance to public inquiry since its occurrence is no longer "classified".

FOIA, engage!

I have no great trust in Comey, but everyone in a position to know how Federal wiretaps are obtained has said some variation of, "That's not how this works. That's not how ANY of this works."

Trump is "the government". At some point, you need to decide which wing of the government is more credible because just saying "the government" is meaningless.

We have one section of The Government making claims and refusing to back them up and, in fact, saying that they won't release any evidence to support their claims. You have another section pointing out why the first section's claims are improbable and asking for intercession to show it didn't happen. Maybe your standards are far different than mine but I'm not having much trouble determining who seems more credible right now.

Although it's certainly possible that the FBI did in fact tap phones in Trump Tower but did not tap phones specifically belonging to or in order to listen in on Trump but rather on some other member of his campaign staff. Which would actually fit the previous stories and also meet the definition of truth when saying "We did not tap Trump's phones". Really, there's not a result that helps Trump much here unless you believe that Obama actually personally decided to tap Trump but went around the FBI and FISA court to do it. Otherwise, we either have Trump ranting like a lunatic about nothing or else that the FISA court found credible reason to intercept his calls in the name of national security.

Obviously, a fair percentage of the population (and around 99.95% Trump supporters) will believe the Obama story anyway so I guess that's the pay-off for making the claims.

Edited, Mar 5th 2017 8:15pm by Jophiel