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That's it. It might not be cool on any level, but they're not doing it to be cool. There's no magic comment that would make them say "Gee, I realize now that saying you need to make me a sandwich and let me rest the plate on your head as you orally satisfy me and I play WoW because you're too stupid to understand games was hurtful. I had no idea. I'm sorry."

They know it's hurtful. That's why they're saying it.

We should give him a big group hug.

I don't know but we should totally move this conversation to DSD's blog comments

Going along with whoever wrote it before (yes I'm lazy and not scrolling back through the last page... ) when they said that something along the lines of certainly addressing it in a group, guild, or real life kind of setting, but wouldn't chase down every idiot in a general chat channel in a MMO.

A troll isn't some pinnacle of rationality, dispassionately picking the remark that'll hurt the most out of a velvet bag. The things you troll people with reflect what hurts, sure - those of you who don't believe society is sexist might ask yourselves why sexist jokes are the thing that are thought to be especially painful to women - but mostly they reflect what you and your mates think is funny. I'm sure they're both true, though contempt might be a better word.

By the way, just because you make a black joke doesn't mean you don't seriously believe that blacks are inferior; the opposite is true. Plenty of those jokes over at stormfront. Humour is a powerful, versatile and incredibly complex tool, and it can certainly be used to entrench your status and remind social inferiors of theirs. Those who do so are far from all being trolls in the first place.

Whether calling people out is effective depends on a lot of things (e.g. as Jophiel says the condemenation of those you see as your peers is much more effectove); but pretty much no-one will keep doing something if it meets with a universally negative reception. I don't think getting those who were trolling her to stop was the reason she posted those responses, though. Second though: I don't think its particularly helpful to have this lady be the centerpiece of these discussions.

Exactly! I know I can't win, so I'm going to lose on my terms.

I'll keep that in mind the next time I'm in the late 1800s.

I'd like to believe it was more realistic I'd be in the 1800s than a steampunk convention.

You sir have hurt my feelings.

I'll keep that in mind the next time I'm in the present.



What did you call me?

Valencia?

Time to find that Martha Stewart tape.

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