Senate Repeals DADTFollow

Wow, you're a tool... so, now thinking that someone's gay make you a homophobe as well? I guess there's no limit to the stupidity of that word. Hmmmm. I think that you're white, does that make me racist?

You people need to grow up, this is life. I can talk about being black, white, man, woman, heterosexual, homosexual, Muslim, Jewish, etc. without any negative connotation.



No, I'm telling you it's a privacy issue and you want more detail than I can give. So, instead of me making stuff up, something that you all are so very use to doing, I'm telling you to ask a female. This is because the best response I can give is "it's the same privacy issue with women and men".



Dude, what part of ASSUMPTION don't you understand?

Have you seen the movie Crash? Sometimes your stereotyping is accurate, sometimes it isn't. You shouldn't just go around judging people based off stuff that you aren't sure on.

Besides, that's the beauty of DADT, even if an individual DID treat someone differently, that individual can't say "I don't want to room with him/her b/c s/he's gay" with no proof.

LOL seemed odd to me too but I thought it was just a typo.

Besides as a Canadian thats I give my oil to the US for basically nothing jut so their War machine is always able to come to my aid. Just like the promised us back in the 50's. P.S. **** you Diefenbaker.

And it actually is inaccurate to begin with. The vast majority of the military said they wouldn't mind or wanted the repeal. This is according to a study released by the Pentagon, not some fanatical, untrustworthy group. Only some of the top-tier generals and most combat-stationed forces were against it.

And Joph is right--the military doesn't get to create its own rules. Well, actually, it often does, but that's a separate problem. It exists to serve the nation--not the other way around.

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Also,

A. Since when is it part of the liberal agendy to weaken the military? You act like they are actively trying to kill off soldiers.

B. What some liberals (myself included) would like to see is a more focused and smaller military. We spend more on ours than all the rest of the world combined. And it is retarded. Until WWII, we were a nation that avoided military conflict when possible (well, minus killing off those disgusting savages!) Since then, we've been perpetually at war.

I would not be opposed to a military with less external presence in favor of a strong national defense. And that means we would stop being the policemen of the world and our soldiers would stop dying in other peoples' fights.

C. MOST politicians are all for cutting excess spending of the military. The problem is that none of them want to bring that up, and the ones who do can't make a direct case because most programs are classified. There's tons of spending that could be cut without hurting the military at all because they are research programs for technologies everyone is fairly sure will never work. Cutting them, or at least redirecting the funds to a project that is expected to yield usable results, seems like a good idea to me.

D. I'm not really sure why I responded to varus at all...

Edited, Dec 20th 2010 10:39am by idiggory

You got lost in the train of thought.

My statement was a response to questions on how people treat other "assumed" homosexuals. I responded that I don't treat them any differently. I wasn't talking in pride, I was answering questions.



I don't even want to get into the "sexual harassment" discussion. I'm not sure how's it like in the civilian world, but in the military EVERYTHING is sexual harassment. Because of that, I try to limit my interaction with female coworkers all together. It's much safer.

? I didn't think being opposed to a useless war meant you hate your military. I don't like paying for my countries soilders in Afghanistan, payin to help people who do not appreciate or want our help, paying to help people who after 8 years are not even attempting to help themselves. Does that mean I hate my military? No it means I hate the mission. Put them someplace like the Ivory Cost and help the people there that are about to go through a hella ****** time, people who can not help themselves and people who have always been vry grateful for assistance in dealing with rogue warlords.

Supporting troops doesn't mean you have to like what they do. I support american troops and I am canadian, I do not support their mission, the reasoning behind the mission, nor the people that decided that they would send these sons, fathers, husbands, mothers, brothers, sisters, wives, daughters off to fight in a place they are not wanted or appreciated. Just because people do not support the War means they want to see the men and women serving in it to die. Quite the contrary they want them to come home and stop dieing for a needless cause. Unless you can give me a reason to be in afghanistan that doesn't include, Osama Bin Laden, Terrorist Cell, Al Qaeda, or democracy.

God are you that stupid? Our soldiers are living, showering and billeting together under DADT?

Ya but you don't know who is gay and who isn't. So that means it is entirely safe. Of course its not like suddenly thousands gays are going to come out of the word work just because they can. I mean why put yourself in the line for unnecessary persecution if you don't have to.

Edited, Dec 20th 2010 11:42am by rdmcandie

Seems to remind me of when blacks were first allowed to join openly the military, and the complaint was they wouldn't care as much as whites, and they would be a distraction and lead to good clean white boys getting killed. Of course they could still be drafted.


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whoa double deja vu.

Edited, Dec 20th 2010 11:48am by rdmcandie

I've never heard anyone use the argument that gays and/or women shouldn't be in the military because they wouldn't care as much.

The majority of the military isn't opposed to having gays openly serving with them, so I'm not sure why Varus is making the blatantly false statement that they are.

He could bring up that the majority of marines and combat troops specifically are opposed, but then it's trivially easy to also point out that the vast majority of marines and combat troops who knowingly served with a gay service member had no issues with it.

It's a sad thing that we can fix our past mistakes while learning nothing from them.