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Take it to another thread, please. This is ridiculous.
I'm sorry. I was responding to Calima's (Killuminati) post where he said IRON can do it alone. It's difficult to respond to that without coming out as trying to flame one or both of the linkshells. I'll try to make a statement about my intentions on posts like these.
I'm pretty sure that is Calima posting. Killu is too egotistical to be posting under other people's names. And nobody can make a fool of herself quite like Calima.
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SO than by your theory than Lunarians should be Lunarians + Ancients, since those linkshells merged in the past?
Ancients broke and many of us went to different linkshells such as Lunarians and Iron.
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1st Membership List for Lunarians
Forum name/In-game name
= Sack holders =
Jeeb
Gafgarion
Chalupa/Chronus
= Members =
Sephi/Sephra
Ice/???
Ash/Asharu
Remy
Doobielicious/Doobyn
Archael
Iggy
Dumpty
AkumaDank/Dankalicious
Flip
Laike/Myght
Fire/Guy
Tony/ Raif or Thurmon
Devilman
Sirhc
Suzie
Jlo
Tsukaze
Maverick
Forum name/In-game name
= Sack holders =
Jeeb
Gafgarion
Chalupa/Chronus
= Members =
Sephi/Sephra
Ice/???
Ash/Asharu
Remy
Doobielicious/Doobyn
Archael
Iggy
Dumpty
AkumaDank/Dankalicious
Flip
Laike/Myght
Fire/Guy
Tony/ Raif or Thurmon
Devilman
Sirhc
Suzie
Jlo
Tsukaze
Maverick
That's a rather old list. Where did you get it from? I don't see it on any one of their forums. Who are you really? Your argument is flawed by the way.
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Just cause they merged with another shell they arent IRON anymore and it reduces what they have done. Dragonslayers, just cause 2 LS's form up to help each other out under a unified pearl it defeats what they have done, make some sense here. The fact is people in HNMLSs need people and they have to merge shells to combat people leaving the shell or game.
Tell that to those that tried to discredit Dragondslayers for this same reason in the Vrtra thread.
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That's a rather old list. Where did you get it from? I don't see it on any one of their forums. Who are you really? Your argument is flawed by the way.
Well that post is on the lunarians boards.
Whitenoise who are you really? I had to enter an "e" next to the "n" to get close to my loggin name. I am someone who played FFXI on Titan with Jeeb and Jer as an import player, I am someone who played FFXI hardcore until I enlisted in the Airforce. I am sorry my current levels arent that great, but I find my time is better spent not getting in trouble serving this country, and now who are you besides a sock puppet?
How is my agrument flawed?
Just cause IRON didnt pick a new name when they merged. My point was Linkshells take in new members all the time. Based on the statement I first responded too, if you say IRON is really IRON + Genesis, than you have to say that every LS is <insertlinkshell name here> + every social or other HNMLS that their players were orginally from. Tredvolt held the 1st IRON shell and still does, Mathias Started AD and still does. The same cant be said about Lunarians. But MY POINT was why does that discredit anything any shell does. This is a game about teamwork, not solo effort. So why arent we happy when people work together to do something no one else has done. My example there was Dragonslayers. Why talk trash about them, when did something no one else has done? Who really cares where the membership came from? Lets just be happy and congrats those who overcome a huge task in the game. Maybe cause when I played Import we had to talke 30 + people to kill fafnir my view is skewed, but I hate when people cant just say congrats, and through in some disclaimer. Lunarians are Lunarians, they have a long history in this game and have had a lot of turnover of members, but guess what so has just about every LS. IRON + Genesis worked out a deal to reform under one pearl, so what, they are just a single pearl, no one could separate the 2 LS's now, and what does everyone who joined after the merge belong too, they belong to a shell called IRON. Dragonslayers is a LS of 2 different shells who one pearl on certain raids. So why does that have to be a problem when they fight Vrtra or Tiamat. Why arent people happy that 2 LS's with different rules and leadership can put ego aside and fight and kill HNMs that no one else can or have killed yet? Lets just be positive about the good, and critical and objective about the bad, and keep our noises out of events that have no meaning our lives.
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Merging and recruiting are two seperate things. Iron practically absorbed all of Genesis while Lunarians only took a few people from Ancients from what I have seen. You clearly don't see what I'm talking about. A merge is where you take one LS and combine it entirely with another. That list of yours isn't on any of the lunarians sites unless it's in their private section which means they have a problem.
For fu[b][/b]ck's sake, start your own goddamned thread and leave this one for what it was here for to begin with. This is exactly what I was trying to prevent in the first place, and I probably shouldn't be surprised that it happened anyway.
Edited, Mon Jun 13 08:29:46 2005 by Byaina
Edited, Mon Jun 13 08:29:46 2005 by Byaina
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well you still have posted who really are, why wont you post your real game name?
Here is the post since you have a hard time with reading:
http://www.bwire.net/lunarians/viewtopic.php?t=78
Yes, it is the pre-launch group that were on the MB before the game was released in NA. Most of the old scholl Lunarians we know of today didnt join until the 2nd phase which began in early November.
I have no idea who the leader of Genesis was, but isnt it a better to merge than pick then to do what might be called stealing membership and leaving the other shell handicaped? Yes Acients broke up cause most of the membership was taken into Lunarians. You act like IRON has 100 members after the merge. What would have made you happy, if they picked a new name? And since its been months since the merge, I find it hard to keep calling IRON + Genesis cause they have added other people since, and I know people that use to be in IRON are no longer playing, and I guess the same holds true with some old Genesis membership. The point is, we are too far removed from the actions of the 2 Shells to keep calling it IRON + Genesis, cause if you want to make your point valid, than I repeat every shell is <HNMLSNAME> + every shell that new members once belonged too. Shells like AD, BS, IRON have the orginal leader in place, After Jer and Jeeb left Lunarians have a number of people filling the role of shell holder. But my main point is this why do people want to discredit a shell cause they used teamwork on a HNM, why do people not care about the current membership and what they have done, instead of picking apart where they came from, cause just about every shell has to and will go through major revisions in their membership, but that shouldnt matter.
Here is the post since you have a hard time with reading:
http://www.bwire.net/lunarians/viewtopic.php?t=78
Yes, it is the pre-launch group that were on the MB before the game was released in NA. Most of the old scholl Lunarians we know of today didnt join until the 2nd phase which began in early November.
I have no idea who the leader of Genesis was, but isnt it a better to merge than pick then to do what might be called stealing membership and leaving the other shell handicaped? Yes Acients broke up cause most of the membership was taken into Lunarians. You act like IRON has 100 members after the merge. What would have made you happy, if they picked a new name? And since its been months since the merge, I find it hard to keep calling IRON + Genesis cause they have added other people since, and I know people that use to be in IRON are no longer playing, and I guess the same holds true with some old Genesis membership. The point is, we are too far removed from the actions of the 2 Shells to keep calling it IRON + Genesis, cause if you want to make your point valid, than I repeat every shell is <HNMLSNAME> + every shell that new members once belonged too. Shells like AD, BS, IRON have the orginal leader in place, After Jer and Jeeb left Lunarians have a number of people filling the role of shell holder. But my main point is this why do people want to discredit a shell cause they used teamwork on a HNM, why do people not care about the current membership and what they have done, instead of picking apart where they came from, cause just about every shell has to and will go through major revisions in their membership, but that shouldnt matter.
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As long as people discredit Dragonslayers for killing Vrtra and then going about saying that Iron was the first NA linkshell to beat Dynamis lord, this will continue to happen.
Posts trying to discredit Dragonslayer's accomplishment
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Killuminati and all of his alias':
Posts under the same circumstances as Dragonslayers yet supportive of Iron
Calima said:
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Posts trying to discredit Dragonslayer's accomplishment
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ya mean first two LS combined defeated it .. but garuda!!! ur the woman!!!!!!!!
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Err...not first NA only. Unless I'm mistaken, Lunarians has some JP players still in their ranks.
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I doubt any LS will be able to say they beat it solo. From what I heard from friends that were there is that they were all in the same LS were they not? Lunarians/AD beat Vrtra and Iron/Genesis are next to beat it.
Killuminati and all of his alias':
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blah blah blah...check out the thread to see every post of his
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Grats,IRON can do things alone.
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Congratulations,nice to see,that IRON can do Dynamis Lord alone.
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i'd like to congradulate IRON for defeating the dynamis lord last night
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Yes Acients broke up cause most of the membership was taken into Lunarians.
Once again, people LEAVING an linkshell to join another is NOT merging. If they all fall under the same recruitment program then it is hardly merging.
i'd just like to state that if you look under the Vrtra thread i posted a long time ago in support of them and congradulated them on more than one occasion.
Damn. Congrats to all who were there. Truly an amazing feat. I hope all of you keep it up have fun doing it!
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Byaina the Tulip wrote:
Take it to another thread, please. This is ridiculous.
Byaina the Tulip wrote:
For ****'s sake, start your own goddamned thread and leave this one for what it was here for to begin with. This is exactly what I was trying to prevent in the first place, and I probably shouldn't be surprised that it happened anyway.
I don't mean to sound like a **** here, Byaina, but these are public forums, and people are going to "fight", argue, etc. Stop trying to act like you're the forum admin and stuff. Besides, anyone who reads their posts already know how retarded they're acting by argueing over something so trivial as this. It was a major feet what IRON did, as was the slaying of Vrtra by Dragonslayers. Some people just enjoy getting a rise out of people. /shrug
Well dynamis has a limit of 64 people...(I remember a iron member telling me they only had 54 in the dynamis, I don't remember exacly, i might be wrong) All in IRON cept for 4-10 visitors (not really sure). Vrtra had 80+.. mmmkaythxbai!! And to say iron is 2 LSes, when the merger happend, IRON couldent even take on fafnir
Hey Rusty...Dragonslayers beat Vrtra again...this time with only 50 people...consisting of 2 SMN, very few WHM, and multiple mass-dc's....but I'm sure that's still not "good enough" for you is it?:)...
okay, and the first time you said you had 60 people not 80... so you had 70 this time? I really don't care that much. Comparing Dynamis Lord to Vrtra isent even possable seeing as 18people attacking vs 64. Grats on the kill is guess....?
Please, Tell your AD friends to STOP asking for me to CFH on some NM you failed to claim. (Incase you dont visit other forums sites)
Please, Tell your AD friends to STOP asking for me to CFH on some NM you failed to claim. (Incase you dont visit other forums sites)
who's comparing Vrtra vs Dynamis Lord?....2 totally different kind of fights...
And where is the proof of your new "accusation"?...haha...let me guess, you forgot to screen shot it?...riiiight;)
EDIT: by the way, again, grats to IRON on the DL kill...
Edited, Wed Jun 15 09:01:05 2005 by FutureIsNow
And where is the proof of your new "accusation"?...haha...let me guess, you forgot to screen shot it?...riiiight;)
EDIT: by the way, again, grats to IRON on the DL kill...
Edited, Wed Jun 15 09:01:05 2005 by FutureIsNow
saddly... was logged in on PS2 when I recived the tells. So there is no screen shots.
"Errata>> Hey man King Behemoth is out come CFH on him LOL"
"Errata>> Hey man Niddhog is out come MPK these people and steal the claim LOL"
"Errata>> Hey man King Behemoth is out come CFH on him LOL"
"Errata>> Hey man Niddhog is out come MPK these people and steal the claim LOL"
haha you'd make a great prosecuting attorney...
I wouldn't be surprised if Errata was /tell-ing you, maybe he thinks your still stupid enough to keep pulling the same crap you do, that way we can get the others banned as well.
Lmao do you even know why I was banned? I prolly violated the ToS 5 times (time that requiered a GM to come into it) then I was on my 'last chance'. Lui do you even know how my last chance was wasted? YOu say that i was stupid for getting banned but you dont even know what happend
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I don't mean to sound like a **** here, Byaina, but these are public forums, and people are going to "fight", argue, etc. Stop trying to act like you're the forum admin and stuff. Besides, anyone who reads their posts already know how retarded they're acting by argueing over something so trivial as this. It was a major feet what IRON did, as was the slaying of Vrtra by Dragonslayers. Some people just enjoy getting a rise out of people. /shrug
So you'd prefer to see this crap go back and forth for another 2 weeks?
I'll have to side with Byaina on this one, this thread has been reduced from a celebration of a major accomplishment to a bunch of sh[b][/b]it flinging and is clogging up our forum.
It doesn't matter, you're gone.
Glad all that /playtime you had went to a complete and utter waste.
Glad all that /playtime you had went to a complete and utter waste.
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