Unite And Run Out Gillsellers!!Follow

You know, I've always agreed that gilsellers ruin the game and make us spend lots of time to just overtake what they've done. But honestly, how much fun would it be without them? It would be boring, we would get tired of leveling(since everything would be cheap, we wouldnt have to farm just like we all wanted). They keep it fun and interesting. Regardless if you agree of disagree with me, its not gonna work.

Sorry to burst your bubble...
Its not just Gil-sellers, it the many greedy SoB NA's that run around. They pretty much started the price hikeing and the gil-sellers used it to get more gil, and since the NA's (Plain old players) raised the prices on AH, Gil is getting eaiser to get for the gil-sellers so the $$ for the gil has dropped too.

In other word think outside the box, its not JUST gil-sellers.
What ya gonna do to the average joe who camps it and puts the item up for eh lets say 3mil gil, you gonna ruin him to just for selling an item?

Also what makes you think they won't get "craftier" and make more "normal" names instead of Tom's or the jerrys, the could randomize it, my money says theres some out there that already did.

Well, they have already started taking different names, but they are easy to spot when they are rank 1 characters, 40BLM/1BST, or someother main job with a severly underleveled sub. And as for the thats really immature to say that it is just NAs that are buying gil, and for the record I think that buying gil is just as bad as the gillsellers themselves, but Ive began to notice that alot of things many people cannot obtain without buying gil, thus the vicious cycle continues. But the idea is this, if someone is selling drugs(gillsellers), Cops can easily go after the buyers(gillbuyers), but the main bust and goal would to get to the supplier, IE the drugdealer(gillsellers). I wish SE would just make all equipment NM drops rare/ex so that there could only be one per character. Then the crafters would not be effected except on hard items such as damascos ingot/cloth etc etc. But I do see them trying to fix that problem already with the new drops in BCNMs and ENMs, my hope is that they will take the next step towards the gillsellers.

Yeah, but its not the fault of the NA players. Saying it is amounts to cultural elitism at best.

Its all supply and demand, but people are tired of hearing that.

damn forums. >.>;;

Edited, Sun May 8 03:31:03 2005 by Awias

Most of it is actually inflation, but I'm sure you all won't pay attention to me and just continue ranting about "NA jack up the prices, gilsellers jack up the prices, blah blah blah." Compare Astral Rings and Emperor Hairpin prices to those of a year ago. Holy ****, they're proportional! No ******* way! -.-

Some of you make very good points, and yes a lot of the problem is that people spike the prices and then many people will do anything, IE buy gil to get certain items. But again this mess with saying its the NAs who spike all the prices, just get over that and realize that everyone is human and capable of being greedy, no matter what country you call home. But this topic was about the FACT that chinese run gillsellers are paid to camp NMs and rare drops, so that they can exploit FFXI. NOT, NA, or JP, but it is a known fact that they are chinese run gillselling operations. And yes, this is about there explotation and behavior in our game, and I was suggesting we try somthing to remedy that. You can blame inflation and greed, but you know what, its not all NAs, and Ive rarely seen a JP without a SH, so its not like they are completely innocent. Yes greedy people do exisit in the game, but that is unfortunately a part of human nature. But the explotation of FFXI by the gillsellers is not welcomed in my opinion on any server. And as for supply and demand, two thing wrong with that in FFXI. First I have yet to notice an increase in the gil that drops from beastman {without gilfinder} to counter this inflation, and second why doesnt SE put maximum cost on items in the AH. Also, on a lot of your spikes in prices, Ive seen the gillsellers buy out an entire stock of an item, and turn around and sell them for a huge % more. But the main issue here is not inflation or the explotation of item drops by gillsellers{although I hate} but there overall behavior. Now they are MPKing in sky and we seem to be getting more and more groups of them. NM item drops should all be rare/ex as I have said in an earlier posting, and max limits set for items on AH. Which, you cannot tell me that with all the money and servers SE has that they cannot come up with a simple equation to factor in supply and demand and the actual markups on items?!? Yes, some items are meant to be expensive, and should be somthing that a character works towards in the game. High level crafters spent a lot of gil to get where they are to make these elite scorpian harnesses or haubergeon/hauberk, but give me a break when freaking archers knifes jump in to the 100k and archers rings are all sold by the same person(s){TOMs}, then that is explotation of the game, and is and will continue to turn many away from this game. For my final thought{I always wanted to say that} ask yourself this, "How are drops handled in Wow, and can we not learn from that?" The main point behind this thread is to inspire action against those who exploit FFXI, and take it further away from the game I love to play and socialize in, and I hate to see somthing that ive enjoyed be destroyed infront of my eyes. And please, quit the mess about blaiming NA, or JP, XP is XP no matter what country your partying in, and for those wondering I gladly party with JP any opportunity that I get, because if you know your job and how to play together, you really dont need to speak the same language. You will never see a comment under my search [English] [Party] [Only].

But think about this. If people are organized enough, we can get about 6 people each in about 6 groups just to follow the gil sellers around for a week. We claim their NMs (hopefully), and then they make very little prohpet. There used to be 4 gil sellers in castle O, but they are now gone. Why? The Jerrys got about 5 people to come in, get every claim, and BAM, the old gil sellers there are gone, and only the jerrys and their friend are there now. Once gil sellers see they are not making gil, they move to a new place. When there are no more places to go...who knows where they will end up, camping Spiny Spipi? I am in for trying to see what happens, and make a little gil while doing it. I have a few friends that would probably also be willing. Gimme a /tell if anyone organizes this.