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#1 Apr 17 2005 at 2:17 PM Rating: Default
I used to play this game but I quit because my server was run by the japanese and like 90% of them were racist pricks how is the situation on this server?
#2 Apr 17 2005 at 4:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Just as bad!
#3 Apr 17 2005 at 5:29 PM Rating: Decent
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#4 Apr 17 2005 at 5:53 PM Rating: Decent
Most people who say the jp are racist pricks are racist pricks themselves. 90% of the jp on this server are really nice and will go out of their way to help you. I would say only 40% of NA are like that.
#5 Apr 17 2005 at 6:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Most people who say the jp are racist pricks are racist pricks themselves. 90% of the jp on this server are really nice and will go out of their way to help you. I would say only 40% of NA are like that.


I would have to agree b/c I still remember that time in Ifrit's Calurdon(sp?) where I found a really nice JP bst who would help me with getting a coffer key in that place. Plus, he spoke English.
#6 Apr 17 2005 at 6:47 PM Rating: Decent
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as it has been said before by Apis, i believe, Japan has its share of immature, rude children playing this game; they are the source of the {english} {too weak} {no, thanks} comments. furthermore, much of the NA reputation among Japanese comes from unsuspecting JP forming a pt with a member of our "stfu n00b" crowd. patient, rational people of some intelligence and empathy will not let these bad apples paint a picture of an entire culture. idiots will.

Edit: haha i'm so mature myself i flamed the op for no reason. heh. well, i am not perfect.

Edited, Mon Apr 18 00:14:53 2005 by stegan
#7 Apr 17 2005 at 6:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Japan has its share of immature, rude children playing this game; they are the source of the {english} {too weak} {no, thanks} comments. furthermore, much of the NA reputation among Japanses comes from unsuspecting JP forming a pt with a member of our "stfu n00b" crowd. patient, rational people of some intelligence and empathy will not let these bad apples paint a picture of an entire culture. idiots will.



</nod>... Thank ya, Stegan, for showing class & maturity...

#8 Apr 18 2005 at 8:59 AM Rating: Decent
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as it has been said before by Apis, i believe, Japan has its share of immature, rude children playing this game; they are the source of the {english} {too weak} {no, thanks} comments. furthermore, much of the NA reputation among Japanese comes from unsuspecting JP forming a pt with a member of our "stfu n00b" crowd. patient, rational people of some intelligence and empathy will not let these bad apples paint a picture of an entire culture. idiots will.


dude wtf??? when did I say the statement like that? and when, where?
I never say such immature things like you do sorry man, you got wrong person

I never say something like that bad about Jp players, I honor them and they are being nice to me all these times, except yeah sometimes I'm abit pissed when I ask them nicely to pt their response was <Thank for the offer but I'll have to pass> and <No thanks> then i replied <Goodbye!> thats all, that doesnt mean I disrespect other players regard their race, sory man I'm not kind of racist people like that.
#9 Apr 18 2005 at 9:06 AM Rating: Decent
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maybe i read it wrong but i dont think stegan was trying to insult you.

he was basically saying there are just as many ******* JP players as ******* NA players and not to let it get to you.

That or i misunderstood the post, its happened before.
#10 Apr 18 2005 at 9:19 AM Rating: Decent
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ic..but i was just abit surprised reading his posting that mentioning I say this statement without refering to any source,

I dont feel insulted but I dont want people will give bad impression to me for bad statement that I ever said without refering to original source, I'm only human, I might say a bad things or two or three, but give the vague statement about what I have said just makes me feel uncomfy :D

I'm a direct person if I dont like someone I will say it directly to the person, I dont like backstabber and hypocrisy :D

Edited, Mon Apr 18 10:23:23 2005 by Apis
#11 Apr 18 2005 at 9:50 AM Rating: Good
Fear not Apis.

Stego was just saying that both the JP and the NA playing audiences have rude players. He also was saying that you shouldnt judge a whole culture based upon the poor playing and/or attitudes of a few of its members. If you do that then you lose out on one of the best reasons to play FFXI..the ability to enjoy a game and gain insight into a foreign culture. The fact that there are JP players on the same server is one of my most favorite things about FFXI. I dont think I have ever had a JP player be rude to me (but then again I dont speak japanese so i guess its possible that I was just ignorant of any rudeness if it occured). Its really cool to enjoy something with someone despite laguage and location barriers.

As to the OP,I disagree with you 100%. Are you aware that by calling someone a racist and using their race as one of the designing components of that assessment that you could be considered a racist yourself?

A racist statement about racists if you will. (hypocrisy)


#12 Apr 18 2005 at 10:33 AM Rating: Decent
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Most of the jp on here are really nice and people get along just fine. Have seen more bad NA then jp ^^
#13 Apr 18 2005 at 11:37 PM Rating: Decent
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I agree with Sirrobin. You know, I feel slightly offended when I read these boards. I'm part JP, and thanks to my grandmother I know some of the language.

I have a lot of JP friends, slightly more than I do NA friends. They're nice people, and often willing to help me. If you've ever been to japan, you'd realize that the people there a lot more respectful and disciplined than people in America. If you've ever been in JP Pt's, you'd know that the party sticks together, and everyone gets along. Once one person leaves,everyone else leaves.It is disrespectful to just go out and replace someone. When a member of the PT dies in battle, they don't spam the chat windows with:"OMG LIEK RAISE!!!11oneelvevne! Can I have it?!!?1 GET YOUR *** OVER HERE?!1 OK?! THNX!!" They simply send a tell to a high lvl mage who happens to be in the same region, and ask politely for a raise.
#14 Apr 18 2005 at 11:59 PM Rating: Decent
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There is a lot of racism in Japan, just because of it's extremely xenophobic past, but most JP I have met seem to be quite reasonable and nice. I haven't met many who'll go out of thier way to help an NA person, but I don't interact with many JP people since I hate the auto-translator and feel like I'm embarrassing all involved by using it.

That's just me though. I don't have any reason to believe there are any more JP pricks out there than NA pricks.
#15 Apr 19 2005 at 8:12 AM Rating: Decent
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i'm sorry Apis. i thought it was you who said that, and maybe it wasn't. the source would be a post like this one, a month or more ago. i could not find the exact thread.

i posted your name as my hero, who speaks against racism. no insult or rudeness intended. please forgive me.
#16 Apr 19 2005 at 8:20 AM Rating: Decent
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I have met some very gracious J players on this server as well as some that think they are l33t. In my experience, I guess it just depends on how you treat them. Just as with anyone else, if you treat them with respect and accomidate them, they will do the same.
#17 Apr 19 2005 at 11:48 AM Rating: Decent
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Naw! We have just a bunch of dumbass NA on this server that think they own the server.

Edited, Tue Apr 19 12:49:39 2005 by Moshiiii
#18 Apr 19 2005 at 10:56 PM Rating: Good
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well, i have met a few japanese players who say that NA are {head} {diseased}, and i have met some japanese players that go out of thier way to help me.. i even met a japanese player that gave me a gold hairpin +1 when i was just level 50, when i was leveling Goldsmithing..


I have met some NA players that are just rude to me, with no reason.. like one named Ukyo, when i was on the airship.. people were trying to get on the ledge, and walk in it.. and i just ran up and did it.. cause i do it all the time.. i clapped and said. {skill} then Ukyo was like umm.. w/e.

so i jumped off the railing, and then ran up and did it again before he could get back up.. then i said umm.. w/e and laughed.. he then started to say rude things, and try to belittle me, so i just /comfort him and stuff..


Then i have met NA players that are very kind, and go out of thier way, and do nice things to help and stuff and i make good friends with them..



Either side of the spectrum, there are rude players from both sides the Japanese, and the NA, so i am sure its the same on all the other servers..
#19 Apr 20 2005 at 7:46 AM Rating: Decent
Hold on just a sec there yes there is alot of good jp players ive noticed just some are stubborn dont wanna pt hence the japanese only party near there name when you do search but thats ok its just they dont understand us its better when they understand each other which makes a great pt so belittling jp players really dont make them racist just stubbon lol.





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