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#1 Apr 10 2005 at 1:00 AM Rating: Good
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Well, i know that alot of you who dont really know who i am, and have never even been in a party with me, or done any quests with me, would like to call me a Greedy bas[Black][/Black]tard. And thats ok.. i can take that.. but i have a little story to tell, and its rather funny that when i have shared it with people, they tell me that what i did was stupid, and they would have not done the same..

Most of the higher level people level 73-75 have recieved thier Relic weapons by now, and have started to collect Dynamis currency so they can upgrade to the next level, and then spend month after month collecting more from LS Dynamis runs so they can get more and more.. Most people will sell the Currency from anywhere from 5k-10k. Well, i would like to upgrade my Relic staff, just because I think it would be cool, so i have been amassing as many T. whiteshells, Bronze pieces, and Byne bills as i can.. i put them in my bazaar to let people know i have them, and that i would prolly buy some..



i put them in my bazaar for 100k each.. that way nobody would be silly enough to buy them.. Well, the other day, some Japanese Only person bought 12 of them.. lol for 1.2 million gil.. at first i didnt even notice, till i was looking at my inventory, and i was like wtf? where did my T. Whiteshells go? then i started searching in the log for who would have done it.. it took me a while but then i found it..

So, a asked the person why? and they said mistake.. and then proceded to ask me if they could have it back.. I said yes, found the person, and gave them back the 1.2 million and when on my buisness.. I started telling a few people what had happened, and to my utter surprise people were like..

Why? It was his mistake, i say you keep it.. Or like i would tell them i passed the test of greed.. lol and then i would get responses like.. "Well you failed in my book" or "That was a stupid thing to do".. of course i got told i was a nice guy and such, but the majority of people said they would have kept the gil..

So, i was wondering.. What would you have done? And do you think what i did was stupid? I for one think that if this happened to me, i would appreciate the same courtesy, and i think it was the right thing to do.. So yeah.. i would like some feedback..





Oh on a side note.. Remember when i bought all those astral rings, and there was a certain person.. hmm.. oh yeah Tsetsuo.. he posted pics of me, so people would get all pissed off and stuff at me.. Well guess who i saw selling a astral ring in his Bazaar for 750k!! thats right.. Geez, they dont even sell at the AH for that much..


Now i cant wait to see the response to this.. lmao..


Peace.
#2 Apr 10 2005 at 1:47 AM Rating: Good
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Thats a good show of character if you ask me. I personally do it when I find money in my inbox. I applaud you Hip, like you witnessed not many would do the same thing.
#3 Apr 10 2005 at 1:59 AM Rating: Good
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first part was good, end of your post is just another attempt to bring attention to yourself
#4 Apr 10 2005 at 2:18 AM Rating: Decent
man wtf, how was he trying to bring attention on himself?

The topic is "the test of greed" all greed stories are applied, so who ever that guy is (which I have no idea who) that is selling an astral ring for 750k is a greed story.

Anyways, doesn't surprise me you'd trade him back. Hip is a really good person, and I have nothing negitive to say agaist him.

As for the astral ring bazaar guy.

Don't dish it if you can't handle it.

hugs and kisses,
Rasdafunk

Edited, Sun Apr 10 04:32:24 2005 by Rasdafunk
#5 Apr 10 2005 at 3:34 AM Rating: Good
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kudos to ya hip :)
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#6 Apr 10 2005 at 4:48 AM Rating: Good
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It would have been hard, but I'd like to believe I would have done the same thing in your situation, Hip. Kudos to you for that, espcially in trying to get past the language barrier and such.
#7 Apr 10 2005 at 7:43 AM Rating: Good
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Meh, if someone makes a mistake by buying something off my bazaar or auction and tell me the {mistake}, of course I would give everything back to him/her. But if he/she doesn't tell me anything, I won't run after him/her in most of the cases. But that's what Hiptaruu did, and it's one more story to proof he's a very nice guy.

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Kudos to you for that, espcially in trying to get past the language barrier and such.
#8 Apr 10 2005 at 11:24 AM Rating: Decent
LOL KEEEL HIP!!! =D i kidding.. that's a good thing hipta and i did saw you were selling those currency yesterday around 100k i think when i checked your bazaar =)

you're now a new man and has been blessed :D see around bro.
#9 Apr 10 2005 at 1:37 PM Rating: Good
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certain person.. hmm.. oh yeah Tsetsuo.. he posted pics of me, so people would get all pissed off and stuff at me.. Well guess who i saw selling a astral ring in his Bazaar for 750k!! thats right.. Geez, they dont even sell at the AH for that much..


lol when you sent me a tell i did respond, and i will respond the same way here:

"i don't want to sell it, but if someone really wants one then thats what it would be worth to me to part with it."

At the time i added it to my bazarr they were around 700k and even now they are 700k, i just checked.

why would someone list an item for a high price that they really had no desire to sell?
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put them in my bazaar for 100k each.. that way nobody would be silly enough to buy them..


I have thunder III in there for 99,999,999 I am such a greedy *******.

when did the astral ring price start getting really high ... oh thats right...

Why would you rehash an old issue over something that isn't even close to being similar?

I thought we were done with the BS, i guess only i was.

Edited, Sun Apr 10 14:54:05 2005 by TseTsuo
#10 Apr 10 2005 at 2:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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You guessed it, it's a thread where people express their opinion, that's why everyone got rated down. Blah -_-
#11 Apr 10 2005 at 4:18 PM Rating: Decent
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TseTsuo the Wise wrote:
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certain person.. hmm.. oh yeah Tsetsuo.. he posted pics of me, so people would get all pissed off and stuff at me.. Well guess who i saw selling a astral ring in his Bazaar for 750k!! thats right.. Geez, they dont even sell at the AH for that much..


lol when you sent me a tell i did respond, and i will respond the same way here:

"i don't want to sell it, but if someone really wants one then thats what it would be worth to me to part with it."

At the time i added it to my bazarr they were around 700k and even now they are 700k, i just checked.

why would someone list an item for a high price that they really had no desire to sell?
Hiptaruu wrote:
put them in my bazaar for 100k each.. that way nobody would be silly enough to buy them..


I have thunder III in there for 99,999,999 I am such a greedy *******.

when did the astral ring price start getting really high ... oh thats right...

Why would you rehash an old issue over something that isn't even close to being similar?

I thought we were done with the BS, i guess only i was.

Edited, Sun Apr 10 14:54:05 2005 by TseTsuo



ahh i was waiting for your reply..
well, sorry, i didnt see your reply.. and i just think that it is the ultimate form of hipocracy.. at least thats what a few people around me said.. lol

And yes you ahve Thunder III in your bazaar for 99,999,999 because you will get to use the scroll one day.. i remember when i did that with Thunder IV. I remember when the Astral rings prices started to rise.. it was after that update, when they changed the location.. and i dont think i was responsible at all for it.. because guess what.. The rings sell for the same price on all the other servers, and i didnt go buy them all out on those servers did i..

and I bet i know who rated everybody down in this thread..

anyways.. the main idea of the thread was.. The test of greed..

not Tsetsuo's hipocracy..

peace..

#12 Apr 10 2005 at 4:57 PM Rating: Good
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this will be final response to this as i can't for the life of me figure out why you are being a douche all of a sudden.

If you really think that me listing 1 ring in my own bazaar for 50k more than the AH price because i REALLY don't want someone to buy it but i could use the money is the same as you buying out all of the rings at the AH and jacking the price from 250->1 mil then you need to stop smoking your doobies and get a clue.

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anyways.. the main idea of the thread was.. The test of greed..

not Tsetsuo's hipocracy..

then why even mention my name as i had nothing to do with the original issue?

i'll leave this thread now so you can get all your pats on the back.
#13 Apr 10 2005 at 5:02 PM Rating: Good
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thats how most of hiptaru's posts go :p, start off innocent then just add a few sentences off topic to flame/draw attention.
#14 Apr 10 2005 at 5:31 PM Rating: Decent
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i mentioned it because i thought it was funny..

you called me out.. when i originally bought all the astrals.. to try to get people to see how greedy i am.. Everybody remembers that, i still get people sending me /tells about it from time to time... And, i have really shown how i am not that greedy of a person..

Since you were one of the people from the very beginning who would talk as much trash as you could, and try so hard to give me a bad name, with your high and mighty attitude, i decided to use you as an example.. and a example you were..

so there is your answer.. I find it amusing, and i am glad it got a reaction..

Thanks.
#15 Apr 11 2005 at 12:00 AM Rating: Decent
Well grats hip on showing your a good guy (even though i knew you were in the first place),it looks like fire and tse were made fools of originally and want to stab your rep since they cant stab you.


#16 Apr 11 2005 at 1:01 AM Rating: Good
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Not to pick on anyone but I have to ask.

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lol when you sent me a tell i did respond, and i will respond the same way here:

"i don't want to sell it, but if someone really wants one then thats what it would be worth to me to part with it."

At the time i added it to my bazarr they were around 700k and even now they are 700k, i just checked.

why would someone list an item for a high price that they really had no desire to sell?

Hiptaruu wrote:
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put them in my bazaar for 100k each.. that way nobody would be silly enough to buy them..
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I have thunder III in there for 99,999,999 I am such a greedy *******.

when did the astral ring price start getting really high ... oh thats right...

Why would you rehash an old issue over something that isn't even close to being similar?

I thought we were done with the BS, i guess only i was.


Ok so people put items up to show off what they have or so they dont drop it by mistake i get that. What I dont get is why would anyone put an item up for sale even if it was just 50k more than ah if they did not want it sold?

I have thunder III in there for 99,999,999 I am such a greedy *******.
Ok see noone in their right mind would buy this even if they could because of the price. Let's look at the next thing.

At the time i added it to my bazarr they were around 700k and even now they are 700k, i just checked.
Hmm...you said you dident want to sell it but why not put the same price as thunder3??

Hiptaruu wrote:
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put them in my bazaar for 100k each.. that way nobody would be silly enough to buy them..
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Sorry hip but I would have to say the same thing to you man.
Lol if you dont want to sell it dont put a price on it of 100k 700k what ever put it up for 99,999,999 and then we wont have lil disagrements like this one.

Well thats all I have to say just seams a lil silly to me.
Lol plus I cant be giveing any karma troll's a day of can I lol
#17 Apr 11 2005 at 2:33 AM Rating: Good
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I find it highly amusing your means of trying to get a pat on the back Hiptaru.

"Look at me! Look at me! I finally did something nice! Now since you've seen my sinciere niceness, I'm gonna slam a guy that called me out when I did something not so nice, 5 months ago!"

As Tsetsuo already said, how selling one ring in a bazaar for a slight profit (one that is only in his bazaar anyhow because it was replaced with a better ring) is anywhere near the same as buying all 15 from the AH and trying to triple/quadruple the price on them, is completely beyond me.

Are you still this sore that a large portion of the community frowns upon you because you got called out on this, to bring it up again?

And what the fu[/b]ck is this load of bullsh[b]it about how you think you've passed this "test of greed?" For every nice thing you've done in this game like this, it's been backed up with 20 times the amount of scheming and greedy attempts and making yourself money at others expense. In fact I don't even believe you gave this guy his money back. But thats beside the point.


Oh on a side note.. Remember when i farming for months to try to get one of those astral rings, and there was a certain person.. hmm.. oh yeah Hiptaru.. he bought them all, so people would get all pissed off and have to farm for more months so he could make a quick buck.. Well guess who i saw being really nice to Japanese Only player!! thats right.. Geez, who the fu[b][/b]ck cares..

And we all know what Hip has to say about this... "smoke a doo-"
Whoa, hold on there guy, you might want to lay off, the brain cells seem to be running thin.
#18 Apr 11 2005 at 5:04 AM Rating: Decent
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ohh look a member of his LS comes out to speak up for him..

Yes, look at me, i FINALLY did something nice..

shows what you know about me.
#19 Apr 11 2005 at 10:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Astral rings wouldn't have stayed at that price if people weren't willing to pay that much for them. You don't find me whining when I finally had 4 million gil to buy Eurytos' Bow a few months ago only to go to the AH and find that it was up over 1-2 million. Now it's at 10 million, and I have nearly no chance of getting it any time soon, as I continued leveling RNG and there are other things I needed to buy.


It also seems that we don't know how to ignore people here. Some slight thing is said, and that person immediately jumps to defend himself.

Tse, if Hip is as bad as you think he is, let his actions speak for themselves. There's no reason you should have to defend yourself. People that think the same as you won't listen to Hip, and actually defend you if given the chance. Aut is the perfect example of that.

Regardless, Hip did more than I would. I'd return the gil if asked, but not unless the person sought me out. I garuntee that most people wouldn't be that outgoing, and it shows Hip's character that he'd do that. The reason Hip posted this from my point of view is simple: most people play this game for fun, but get too caught up in the game and stop playing for fun. It's more a stress to get gil and get the best gear than it is to stop farming or stop leveling to be with your linkshell. In that aspect, people will do anything to get ahead and get more gil, and people accept that common courtesy isn't alive in-game, when it's just that--a game.

Rant aside, things are taken too seriously in a game that's meant to be fun. That's my main problem with this game right now, though finding a group of friends that know how to put that desire to take the game too seriously has helped me more than I can say.
#20 Apr 11 2005 at 11:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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I agree with Theo on this one. There is really no point in trying to defend yourself here Tset. 750k isn't a bad markup really from the AH price and I would be lying if i said i don't do the same thing on a regular basis myself(I have a whole different reason, but thats for another post). I don't personally know you, but from what i can gather on your posts here, you seem to be a reasonable and thoughtful player in the game.

Hip has a reputation on this server, and no flaming on this forum is going to change that. I personally think that Hip's not a bad guy once you get to know him. He's a sharp businessman with a unique ability to make gil at the drop of a hat without having to do what makes this game boring by using whats on his shoulders instead of wasting time doing such tedious activities such as farming. But if you really knew Hip (and from the looks of these posts, you don't)you would know that he doesn't just make gil to make gil. He helps people with items they need, crafting, etc. with the gil he has. You see the dark side of his gil-making techniques and judge him solely on that when you really don't know the person behind the screen. Don't you think thats being a bit harsh?

And, incidently, with all the bashing that he took over his astral ring incident a few months ago, does it really surprise you that he would bring this up?

Anyways, that anyone in general would give back gil on a mistake is an honorable trait. I, for one, would not want to be stuck accidently paying 100k for a 10k item. Kudos to you Hip for that.

EDIT: Whats with the childish rate-downs for expressing our thoughts?

Edited, Mon Apr 11 13:08:44 2005 by Drowsorez
#21 Apr 11 2005 at 1:18 PM Rating: Decent
I have to agree fully on what Drowsorez said.

You know if TseTsuo were to make this post everyone would be like "OMFG TSET YOU'RE SO FOOKING NICE OMG CAN I CLEAN YOUR SHOES?!"

Autechre would say something like "wow Tset what a nice thing to do, it's good to have people like you on Bismarck :)"

All I have to say is get over yourself. You know who you are, and if you don't. You're the reason this topic turned out the way it did.

Edited, Mon Apr 11 14:19:18 2005 by Rasdafunk
#22 Apr 11 2005 at 1:42 PM Rating: Good
So Hiptaruu insulted Tsetsuo and now some of you are insulting Tsetsuo for standing up for himself?

It is easy to have opinions on subjects that don't concern yourselves, but if I make this personal and insult you, then someone tells you to "Get over yourself" what would you do?

And I can make this personal...
#23 Apr 11 2005 at 1:48 PM Rating: Good
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SingBismark wrote:
So Hiptaruu insulted Tsetsuo and now some of you are insulting Tsetsuo for standing up for himself?

It is easy to have opinions on subjects that don't concern yourselves, but if I make this personal and insult you, then someone tells you to "Get over yourself" what would you do?

And I can make this personal...

I heard about this one phrase that applies here...something about a pot and a kettle and a color. Hmm.
#24 Apr 11 2005 at 2:02 PM Rating: Decent
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You know what?

this is not going to turn into some flame war..
This thread is about Greed. Pure and simple.. Greed.

and its to bad, that even though i mentioned somebodies name in the original post they have to come and start mucking it up with the same stuff they always do in my posts..


So geez.. Peace.. Truce... Whatever..

I do not want another flame war..
How come every thread that i create has to turn into this, or get locked or something.. You people do take this game way to seriously..

I have time to seperate my Personal life, and my Final Fantasy life. And i am sure most of you do to.. but for crying out loud.. Get over it!! oh.. and one more thing..

Hiptaru wrote:
Now i cant wait to see the response to this.. lmao..

It was part of my master plan anyways.
Thanks for being a puppet.


#25 Apr 11 2005 at 2:21 PM Rating: Good
Ugh, just wanted to add that I never had anything against you Hip, nor do I now.

Also, I would have returned the gil. I can't say that I've ever been given anything in this game. Hell, my Secret Santa even ditched on me!

If it was an honest mistake, then it takes an honest person to respond correctly.

Edited, Mon Apr 11 15:28:54 2005 by SingBismark
#26 Apr 11 2005 at 4:24 PM Rating: Default
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I still think you're all douchebags.

Except for Sing and Hip.
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