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#1 Feb 11 2005 at 5:08 AM Rating: Decent
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Today I have lost my set ls pt.I was kicked out of my set by the ls ldr. Let me start by saying this ls pt was not from my main ls but my secondary. I have 3 linkshells and therefore am not allways on 1 or the other. My main is Afternite II. great ppl here and usually have a lot of ppl talking. The other ls name will not be refered to by its name and the ls ldrs name will not be mentioned for now. the ls ldr is a lv 60 nin and the rest the ls members in the set pt are from 53-55. The ldr was waiting for us to catch up with him so we could all pt together.
Now let me explain what happened. I was in Konchat highlands next to the zone into valkrum resting. When I recieve a /tell.

lsldr >> Why aren't you on my ls?
johnma >> Im on my main dude.
lsldr >> Oh is that so
I start to think "is that so" wtf is that supposed to mean?
johnma>> wtf are you smoking dude?
lsldr >> Maybe you dont grasp the concept of a ls set pt.
johnma >> ??
lsldr>> Your in MY ls set group so you need to have my ls as your main.
Johnma >> wtf?
Johnma >> Look man I dont pay $15 a month for you to tell me what I can and cant do.
lsldr >> Whatever. If you dont like it you need to leave.
Me thinking wtf???
lsldr >> I can always find someone to replace you.
Johnma >> Ya know what fine i quit.

Now imo i was basicly kicked out. Yes I quit but this guys is telling me I cant be in the ls set if Im not on his ls 24/7? What kinda BS is that? I have been with afternite 2 since I was a lv 4 noob with no sub job.
I later found out that he changed the ls message to "Because Johnma has no loyalty towards this ls he has been removed from the set" To me this is an insult pure and simple. I know he meant for me to see it. He did not crush my pearl its stil in my inventory. So now he is saying i have no loyalty. I say this. I have loyalty. I have loyalty towards my friends. Pure and simple I do what I can and when I can.
I did nothing as far as I know to **** this guy off and I get along with everyone in his ls. So am I in the wrong here or is he? I was under the assumption i was in the set because I know all the ppl in the ls, we were all friends and that at some point during the day I could be on my main ls without getting hounded for it.
To the guys in my former set pt and now former ls I guess - hey you guys are awesome. I wish you the best in your adventures and take care. To the lsldr /welcome to blist
#2 Feb 11 2005 at 5:11 AM Rating: Decent
thats really really stupid. it really is.

yeah you did basically get kicked out... he can't expect you to make it your main ls.
#3 Feb 11 2005 at 7:07 AM Rating: Good
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You're exactly right. He can't expect you to make his LS your main. Conversely, you can't expect him to want you in his LS if you're LS-whoring. It's his LS - he bought it; he decides who stays or goes. And if I knew somebody in my LS that was LS whoring, I'd make the decision to kick them, too. After all, you've got three other LS'. What good is one more?
#4 Feb 11 2005 at 7:52 AM Rating: Decent
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Drop that set and move on. Friendly LS is irreplaceable. Set party is expandable.

#5 Feb 11 2005 at 11:51 AM Rating: Decent
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or maybe he kicked you out because your a Dragoon?


I'm just kidding :P Oh well at least you found out hes a asshat now rather then later?
#6 Feb 11 2005 at 1:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah I guess I could be called an ls ***** but Im an ls ***** because I actually have friends in all those ls. Long standing friends game wise. my buddy garek for example.Im in his ls and I've known him and tracylou for some time now.Im not always on their ls but I stop in to say hi. Oh yeah some of them are on my friendslist. But i chucked one pearl out the door once and I recieved another one to replace it.
But i did out of respect for him stay on his ls from the times the set pt gathered together until we stopped for the night.
As for being kicked because Im a dragoon. I do believe in the drg hate. I've been there I've heard it all before but hopefully this isnt the case.
#7 Feb 11 2005 at 1:40 PM Rating: Decent
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yay! Go SectaVictoriae!
Didn't know u had a pearl johnma :)
#8 Feb 11 2005 at 1:46 PM Rating: Default
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Oh yeah man. Like i said im not always on. As of late I only really come on in the dead of night.
/em tosses Gamion a green apple gang sign.
Lol u should recognize that.
edit
I should have mentioned this before but in every ls i've had or have there is always 1 person that is aware that Afternite is my main. I made that clear tomy buddy Maldor when he gave me a pearl for his ls. Im fairly sure that I told garek. And the sack holder that gave me the shell for the ls in question is aware of that.But in this case the lsldr had been aware of this for months.

Edited, Fri Feb 11 19:53:16 2005 by johnma
#9 Feb 11 2005 at 9:23 PM Rating: Excellent
ATTN: Members of KoR.
Re: You.

Due to the recent advancements in 'linkshell leadership tactics', there will be some new rules, taking effect last Wednesday.
  • You are never allowed to take off your pearl.
  • Anyone caught without a KoR pearl on will be summoned to Ballista and repeatedly Slept and Sneak Attacked. No items are allowed. No running away is allowed. You will submit to your just punishment.

  • You are not allowed to talk to people in other linkshells.
  • They are not one of US, you see. They will twist your mind, and make you believe strange things. They will try to convince you to turn from our flock. We must unite as a whole against the tide of people from other linkshells. We must not succumb.
    This includes players who may or may not be in your parties. You should not party with anyone not in your linkshell.
    This also includes calling for help. If you need help, ask someone from KoR. If no one from KoR is in the zone, tough ****** Take the death, for the good of the LS.

  • You will do everything I say.
  • I spent the 8k, hero. That means I'm never, ever wrong. If I say to follow me, and we go the wrong way, you will not laugh, you will not smile or call me a noob. You will remain silent as I go the way I was meaning to in the first place.

  • You are not allowed to buy anything from anyone not in KoR.
  • NPCs are not in our linkshell, now, are they?
    Neither is that guy selling that piece of gear you need on the AH. Probably not, anyway, and you're not going to know until you buy it, and then the sin has already been committed, and you are condemned. You are opening yourself to subversion from the petty reactionaries.

  • If you want to level a new job, you must check with us first.
  • By 'us', of course I mean 'me'. I know what's best, after all. I spent the 8k. As a matter of fact, everything about the members of KoR, I really mean 'me'. Don't go thinking you're Ben-Hur and you're gonna rip the system. I am the system. I control your mind. You will obey.

    *.*

    That will be all. Await further instructions.
    #10 Feb 11 2005 at 9:34 PM Rating: Default
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    Yeah, some LS are very **** about stuff like that.. Hell, i am the Owner of my LS, and i have other pearls.. I had to not Join a HNM LS because i couldnt make the commitment to just be with them...


    If you want a cool Social LS, then come get a pearl from me.. Hipnotik Nation is pretty cool LS and we all get along too..
    #11 Feb 12 2005 at 3:27 AM Rating: Default
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    Hip I may actually take you up on that offer Im always up for meeting new ppl. Isnt that what the games all about? I'll send you a tell and let you know. btw grats on meeting bellding. Thats so friggin awesome
    #12 Feb 12 2005 at 4:04 AM Rating: Good
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    Hey Sioux, sounds great!

    When can I join?

    ;-)
    #13 Feb 12 2005 at 6:39 AM Rating: Good
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    The conversation started to fXXk up right here: "wtf are you smoking dude?"

    The whole thing is stupid, not just your previous leader's fault.

    If you really want to stay in that LS, you shouldnt have talked that way. The way you talk just provoking others, like I dont care anything, I go all out!! No offense, but the way you talk/think acting like those 16 yr teenager whos easily to get into fight.
    #14 Feb 12 2005 at 7:16 AM Rating: Decent
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    Hey, Sioux, can I have a pearl in your LS so I can spark a revolution?

    I AM SPARTACUS!
    #15 Feb 12 2005 at 9:32 AM Rating: Good
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    These new rules went into effect last Wednesday?

    Goddamnit, why don't I get these friggin memos?
    #16 Feb 12 2005 at 9:39 AM Rating: Decent
    Personaly I think the whole "set party" thing is a stupid concept to begin with. But sucks to be you though.. that whole thing made no sense.
    #17 Feb 12 2005 at 1:10 PM Rating: Decent
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    invoky - This is the way he and I usually speak with each other.
    #18 Feb 12 2005 at 3:14 PM Rating: Decent
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    Yea and that is bad, you dont go out and act like:
    "wtf you want?"
    "wtf you wanna ban me?"
    "wtf I dont give a ****!!"

    It only make things worse.
    #19 Feb 12 2005 at 4:18 PM Rating: Decent
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    yeah I could see that. You do have a point there.

    Now how would you feel/react if I told u that you need to switch your linkshell when I tell you and do what i tell you to do on that game that you pay $15 bucks a month or else? How would you feel equiping the ls to talk about the situation and seeing "You are an unloyal person" written in the ls message for all to see? Honestly i think you might react the same way. DOnt know you so I cant really say. He wants me to start doing things his way and make comments about me in ls messages then he needs to pay for my account. I pay the money and I will speak with whom I choose when I choose.
    This guy has pulled crap like this before and I will not be a victim on his list. He told a member in that ls he couldnt lv alchemy or he'd kick him from the set. That member said the same thing I did as far as I know. The fact is Im the one who pays the money to play the game my way. If I wanna ls ***** I can ls *****. Just the same way he can kick me from his group for being an ls ***** imo thats not cool cause the game is all about meeting new ppl. If he had come on and said
    lsldr >> yo bro! hey Im bored come chat with me in the ls.
    I woulda said sure.
    Im upset because the first 2 tells he sent me immediately suggest that I am at fault. As if I have commited a crime that compareable to murder(well not murder but something really bad).
    #20 Feb 12 2005 at 4:42 PM Rating: Default
    I was the one who booted him. Why? simple. A Ls Static party is self explanitary. Its a Linkshell Static. So if your not loyal to my Ls, then I don't need you. In my Ls i don't allow beggars or people who only put mine on for help. The fact that he only would wear it for the Spt, upsets me. So i gave him the choice, wear mine and stay with his friends, or don't be in it. Everyone in my Ls is happy and friends with everyone. We've all helped each other achieve high levels and items weve wanted. Johnma, my best friend irl, he is a good drg, but if he can't understand and respect my Ls that i worked and sacraficed for, then he has many others that he stated.
    #21 Feb 12 2005 at 4:50 PM Rating: Good
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    Only in it for the set? As i recall I was with your ls LONG before you even comtemplated having a set pt.
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    Begger???? oh hell no. So Im a begger and Im unloyal to my friends? Yup thats got me written all over it. Remeber I didnt aask u to come to ifrits cauldron. You asked me if I wanted to go and I said sure. You offering help and me begging for it are 2 different things.

    Edited, Sat Feb 12 17:12:13 2005 by johnma
    #22 Feb 12 2005 at 5:08 PM Rating: Default
    Well youve made your choice. From what i can see, you got booted and decided to b*tch about it on the forum. This thread should die and you should move on.
    #23 Feb 16 2005 at 5:55 PM Rating: Decent
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    Your LS was telling you what you could and couldn't do? I thought that was what girlfriends were for...
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