So you want to talk about cheatingFollow

I saw this on another LS fourm:

http://bluesteelffxi.proboards37.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1105275558

a quote from the post:



So it seems like this LS likes to use bots.....

I know another LS, that likes to throw stones at other LS's, that blamed their steal of KB from TWClub on a Provoke Botter that wasnt paying attention. I am not going to name who, but I am sure you drama queens know which high moral LS did steal KB from TWClub when they had players still alive, But of course no one bashes them. I also know a of 2 other LS's that have screen shot proof that this LS uses provoke bots, one refuses to use that proof until this LS tries to bash them, like how they try to bash others, and the other did contact SE with proof of one of their members provoke botting but that palyer left the game for WoW before anything happened.

I saw the screen shots of Tredvolt from IRON, and while I have friends in IRON, as well as these other LS's, I fail to see how people can bash on LS, while everyone seems to have dirty members. In talking to some of my friends, I have found out that they reported the same hack to SE and was told they were in developement of trying to fix it, but could nto do anything about it in the mean time. If you use google and the right key words youll find the darter file trick on a front page of a japanese site. I am not saying this is the right choice to make, but many told me that the hack wasnt effective at all. Even Nalei's LJ says she beat one member with the PS2. I know many of you will not believe anything that comes from someone in IRON, but one friend said they only tried it against an LS that was using it against them in a one on one situation, and since their PS2 players were still faster, they gave up on it. I refuse to name their names cause I dont want them to get in trouble though they will be pissed at me for posting what I have already.


I think cheating is wrong, and I am not tring to defend anyone, and I wish that my friends would have come up with a better moral solution, I mean if you think someone has darters disable, than duh, kill them 12 minutes before the window and no one has darters, but I guess they werent smart enough to think that way? But I do not believe that they used it to gain advantage against others who were playing fairly. And yes, this is fair to talk about cause they had a member not bright enough to not put a password on their LJ.Oh well.


I am starting to think that these problems that these problems are a wider scale than many of you realize. SE created a hossile environment to claim in, and created abjurations that you can maybe get once a week, I know one LS has Killed Nidhogg over 15 times and only gotten 2 M.Bodies. I know making this gear easier to get is unfair to those who worked harder in the 1st place. But it seems more and more people are finding short cuts, and if SE refuses to do anything or act slowly, is a LS suppose to keep loosing pulls? I know cheating is not a correct answer, but there are many flaws that put people in a situation that create the environment for these actions to happen.


I did not post my real account info, cause the last time I replied to one of these threads about a friends LS being slandered my karma was camped from 4.25 to below 2.5, I know to some this seems petty, but I post on this forum to help members in my job forum and my karma doesn mean something to me.

IMO people need to not throw stones when they livein glass houses, I am just glad my LS stopped camping these HNMS for awhile, I hope when we return some of this crap will get fixed.
I hope everyone tries to report any problems to SE, cause they seem to think at times it is not worth fixing, so if it is not worth fixing, than what are you to do, join the crowd or loose pulls, when you have 3 hours invested into a camp the sky becomes very cloudy on the question IMO

It is a matter that has to be taken care off by BS. Not someone who is hiding behind some fake account.

I think I only know one member in BS and he is a good guy. If he says BS doesn't cheat then I will pretty much believe him o_o
What was posted on the forum of BS seems like a personal vendetta as was claimed by xenimus ^^

This is not true. It's obvious when this is being done as one can fish up mobs in the aery, and have them stunned on pop from across the room and through multiple darters by an Iron member. Iron was doing this at minimum up to a few weeks ago.

As far as clearing the darters, that just means auto win for anyone with a japanese puller. That's not a very good solution.

The real solution is for SE to add more stuff like sky.

the only ls that openly advicates cheating that i know of is IRON, if you read the discussion on the posted link, the person starting the argument is for cheating, while xenimus is obviously against it. most HNM shells now seem to be putting more strict rules on their ls members to prevent people like that from ruining the game for others

oh wow, this guy knows how to lurk forums and copy and paste!