Umm that HNM Cheating 101 thread got locked.. and iguess its about time.. I wasnt really paying attention to it, because all it was gonna turn into was people pointing fingers and stuff, i posted my thoughts on it.. and thats it.. Its gonna happen, and people cant do a damn thing about it..
But.. the reason i posted this thread is because...
I just now read thru the whole entire thread, all 3 pages of the crap and i noticed something.. Most of the people arguing and stuff are all about level 74-75.. then for some reason..
Why the he[/Black]ll are there people trying to prove thier poing when they are level 30? or 56? i mean, i really dont think it really concerns people who cant even last 1 hit from a HNM. I mean, i havent even really been in a battle with one, but thats because i am only rank 5... Yes, its sad, i am level 74 and only rank 5.. so i cant even go to Dynamis ><..
Anyways, did anybody else find it funny that people who have no experience what so ever with HNM are bit[Black]ching about stuff that has no effect on them?
please feel free to rate me down for expressing my mind.. As i have grown very used to it..
Thanks,
Hiptaru
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man, rank 5? oO
you slacks :P
i kid i kid
I truely wish the cheating didn't take place. I don't have the play time as most others in HNMls' so I don't camp as often as I'd like; however, when I do camp (regardless if another shell is cheating or not), it is absolutely disappointing to camp something for three hours plus only to lose the claim.
Unless the other LS wipes there really isn't much anyone can do about it, except to return at the time of the next TOD and try again. However discouraging all of that is (cheating or not), HNMls' will always show up at TOD time.
Edited, Sun Jan 9 14:27:47 2005 by armetis
you slacks :P
i kid i kid
I truely wish the cheating didn't take place. I don't have the play time as most others in HNMls' so I don't camp as often as I'd like; however, when I do camp (regardless if another shell is cheating or not), it is absolutely disappointing to camp something for three hours plus only to lose the claim.
Unless the other LS wipes there really isn't much anyone can do about it, except to return at the time of the next TOD and try again. However discouraging all of that is (cheating or not), HNMls' will always show up at TOD time.
Edited, Sun Jan 9 14:27:47 2005 by armetis
That's why I didn't post in the topic. I am more concerned with G1 and AF1 right now than some end game HNM I won't see for months if at all.
you have to have fought a HNM to have an opinion on cheating?
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Hip, I may have you blackisted for Casino shouts, but you are dead right. Unless you've been there, and feel this sort of action personally you dont really know how it feels.
However anger is universal regardless of whether you have been the one harmed directly or not ( even if you dont know that you've been harmed at the time) and some comment even from a level 1 with no rank and sub is acceptable.
I Might even take you out of Blist again now, an intelligent thought is always a point in someones favor.
but we'll see
(it's really nothing personal, just all those SHOUTS......[/wink]
Rate up, if I could hehe.
However anger is universal regardless of whether you have been the one harmed directly or not ( even if you dont know that you've been harmed at the time) and some comment even from a level 1 with no rank and sub is acceptable.
I Might even take you out of Blist again now, an intelligent thought is always a point in someones favor.
but we'll see
(it's really nothing personal, just all those SHOUTS......[/wink]
Rate up, if I could hehe.
not sure if you knew this.. but i dont really run a casino anymore.. its been about 5 months since i have really run a casino..
LMAO.. if you had me off of blist you would know that..
but thanks for the kind words, and i understand people dont like cheating and stuff, but still, to get all upset when it doesnt even concern you in the first place just seems like people are looking for a reason to debate..
I just find it funny that even if your level 30, i know you dont like cheating, but if it has nothing to do with you.. then just say one thing about how you dont like cheaters and move on..
Instead a few people just had to stick thier noses in the buisness and try to make a point..
Edited, Sun Jan 9 15:38:19 2005 by Hiptaruu
LMAO.. if you had me off of blist you would know that..
but thanks for the kind words, and i understand people dont like cheating and stuff, but still, to get all upset when it doesnt even concern you in the first place just seems like people are looking for a reason to debate..
I just find it funny that even if your level 30, i know you dont like cheating, but if it has nothing to do with you.. then just say one thing about how you dont like cheaters and move on..
Instead a few people just had to stick thier noses in the buisness and try to make a point..
Edited, Sun Jan 9 15:38:19 2005 by Hiptaruu
The original post in the other thread was about the exploit itself, not some specific HNM that us lowbie's will never have the oppertunity to kill.
Unfortunately this "work-around" can be applied anywhere in the game. That's what scares me, makes me wonder how much of my life I may have wasted, camping some regular NM, alongside someone using this hack.
Unfortunately this "work-around" can be applied anywhere in the game. That's what scares me, makes me wonder how much of my life I may have wasted, camping some regular NM, alongside someone using this hack.
The issue had nothing to do with HNMs. The issue was cheating. Everyone has the right to post their opinion on that.
So Hip - do you need to fight an HNM to have an opinion on cheating? Is that the requirement?
So Hip - do you need to fight an HNM to have an opinion on cheating? Is that the requirement?
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He's right to get into people talking about the specifics of HNM cheats, but in general yes this affects everyone, everywhere, on every NM.
how else do people provoke argus out of 30 gobs as it spawns?
this has been going on for a very very very long time.
ugly huh. all that is left for honest players are BCNM, Missions, Forced spawn HNM, and exp.
If you arent angry you arent paying attention.
how else do people provoke argus out of 30 gobs as it spawns?
this has been going on for a very very very long time.
ugly huh. all that is left for honest players are BCNM, Missions, Forced spawn HNM, and exp.
If you arent angry you arent paying attention.
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So Hip - do you need to fight an HNM to have an opinion on cheating? Is that the requirement?
No, thats not what i am saying at all.. Its all find and dandy that people dont like cheaters.. hell, i dont like them either.. but i just noticed a few people getting way to involved in the subject when they have nothing to really complain about.. I mean, its cool if you post your thoughts on it and let go.
I understand that this can be used at any level also, but the main point of that thread was to show what certain high level characters were doing to get an edge. By all means, state your opinion, but dont harp on it if it doesnt concern you..
I think i am just stating what people were thinking, but didnt say.
It's a free forum. Everyone is allowed to have their own opinion and voice it ^^ Besides, reading about others experiences with hnm can be quite a source of information already ^^
Hip, I'm looking at the big picture here. What if people start pulling this kind of crap with not just HNMs, but regular NMs too? Camping NMs is a huge source of fun/gil for me. If I can't compete with honest players, I'm going to be extremely disappointed. Yes, HNMs do not concern me. However, cheating does. I'm pretty sure that all the people that were "harping" were concerned about mass-cheating - as I am. That's all there is to it.. simple as that.
Gah.. I just read Tredvolt's response to the cheating. He not only knows about it.. but he doesn't have any problems with his LS members using it.
http://www.bwire.net/lunarians/viewtopic.php?t=1554
http://www.bwire.net/lunarians/viewtopic.php?t=1554
Hiptaruu wrote:
Why the he[Black][/Black]ll are there people trying to prove thier poing when they are level 30? or 56? i mean, i really dont think it really concerns people who cant even last 1 hit from a HNM. I mean, i havent even really been in a battle with one, but thats because i am only rank 5... Yes, its sad, i am level 74 and only rank 5.. so i cant even go to Dynamis ><..
Along a similar vein, why is someone rated at Decent critisizing the posting habits of those who are ranked higher?
Kidding.
I don't personally care whether anyone approved of what scant posts I made in that topic or not.
However I always thought it was rude to bring up further discussion of a topic locked by the mods...
*shrug*
LMAO
I was asking the same question. If it dont concern you why are you arguing. Mind your beeswax, I have no comment about the HNM crap. But ppl need to stop being haters when things dont concern them. i.e. Tarus and Astral Rings.
I was asking the same question. If it dont concern you why are you arguing. Mind your beeswax, I have no comment about the HNM crap. But ppl need to stop being haters when things dont concern them. i.e. Tarus and Astral Rings.
JoLOveS the Charming wrote:
i.e. Tarus and Astral Rings.
Far be it for me to critisize you Seriph, but I think that was kinda out of line. That debate is over and done with, and I don't know that it had any particular bearing on this thread.
Besides, Hip got his lumps over that already. Do we really need to bring it back up?
My comment on his rating, incidentally, was by way of a joke.
/em goes and plays Rudra no Hihou.
Edited, Mon Jan 10 04:11:17 2005 by nataraja
Actually I was being very, very sarcastic. Me and Hiptaru are cool to one another, and when I said Taru I meant the person who started that thread not Hiptaru. But is funny that people thought I was talking about Hiptaru. I actually saw that thread and the one that called a big part of my LS gilsellers because they hunted VE compulsively, just inmature people being haters because they cant do what other people do to make gil.
Honestly I hardly ever post here anymore, the Bad players thread is retarded and there is a monopoly on the threads. I see many people that post here and no matter what they say get rated down, i.e. Hiptaru. I also see Sages and above make retarted threads and get rated up no matter what they say. It sucks here, and no matter what people post here or what status they achieve here does not give people insightful knowledge of the game. I just think people need to leave people alone and play the game. Maybe I am talking out my *** and I am just a big drunk
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Honestly I hardly ever post here anymore, the Bad players thread is retarded and there is a monopoly on the threads. I see many people that post here and no matter what they say get rated down, i.e. Hiptaru. I also see Sages and above make retarted threads and get rated up no matter what they say. It sucks here, and no matter what people post here or what status they achieve here does not give people insightful knowledge of the game. I just think people need to leave people alone and play the game. Maybe I am talking out my *** and I am just a big drunk
.JoLOveS the Charming wrote:
Actually I was being very, very sarcastic. Me and Hiptaru are cool to one another, and when I said Taru I meant the person who started that thread not Hiptaru. But is funny that people thought I was talking about Hiptaru. I actually saw that thread and the one that called a big part of my LS gilsellers because they hunted VE compulsively, just inmature people being haters because they cant do what other people do to make gil.
Honestly I hardly ever post here anymore, the Bad players thread is retarded and there is a monopoly on the threads. I see many people that post here and no matter what they say get rated down, i.e. Hiptaru. I also see Sages and above make retarted threads and get rated up no matter what they say. It sucks here, and no matter what people post here or what status they achieve here does not give people insightful knowledge of the game. I just think people need to leave people alone and play the game. Maybe I am talking out my *** and I am just a big drunk.
Honestly I hardly ever post here anymore, the Bad players thread is retarded and there is a monopoly on the threads. I see many people that post here and no matter what they say get rated down, i.e. Hiptaru. I also see Sages and above make retarted threads and get rated up no matter what they say. It sucks here, and no matter what people post here or what status they achieve here does not give people insightful knowledge of the game. I just think people need to leave people alone and play the game. Maybe I am talking out my *** and I am just a big drunk
.Lol, perhaps so. But yes, your earlier post came off different than you intended it. Since everyone and their brother seemed to give hip a piece of their mind over that, I just assumed you were one of them. Sorry!
As to the remainder of this post you were so unclear as to who or what you meant that I don't even know what to say in response, or even if I'm supposed to be offended!
And in other news, I just lost my job. -_-
Hmm, i guess i should have figured it would turn into this..
I just had to point it out.. sorry if i offended anybody.
This is not supposed to turn into some damn flame war again ok?
Just thought i would post my opinion. But then i remember, i am on the allakahzam boards.. i guess this will just help me pass the time today.
I just had to point it out.. sorry if i offended anybody.
This is not supposed to turn into some damn flame war again ok?
Just thought i would post my opinion. But then i remember, i am on the allakahzam boards.. i guess this will just help me pass the time today.
I sit here passing out from the utter boredom of the Allakhazam boards, I see hiptarus post and say if anyone has a problem with him you deal with me 1st. I take care of his light work.
lol, i am just gonna Hijack my own thread..
I am hungover as fudge today.. my head hurts, and here i am talkin on AIM with Yekan, and Eleu. 6 more hours of work.. then i get to go home and work my way towards level 75...
God my head hurts.
I am hungover as fudge today.. my head hurts, and here i am talkin on AIM with Yekan, and Eleu. 6 more hours of work.. then i get to go home and work my way towards level 75...
God my head hurts.
Hip - I don't think you offended anyone and there didn't appear to be any sign of flames. You asked a question, and people responded without personal flaming.
Chopss wrote:
Hip - I don't think you offended anyone and there didn't appear to be any sign of flames. You asked a question, and people responded without personal flaming.
Nor do I.
Which leaves me now somewhat confused.
hey damn it.. Just shoot me... i have a bad bad headache..
i hate it that when you drink lots of beer, the night before.. you get a headache the next day.
i hate it.
i hate it that when you drink lots of beer, the night before.. you get a headache the next day.
i hate it.
Hiptaruu wrote:
hey damn it.. Just shoot me... i have a bad bad headache..
i hate it that when you drink lots of beer, the night before.. you get a headache the next day.
i hate it.
i hate it that when you drink lots of beer, the night before.. you get a headache the next day.
i hate it.
Drink lots of water and eat raw tomatos with just a smidge of salt on them.
Dehydration = Aleviated
Electrolites = Assuaged
Always works for me, anyway.
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