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#1 Jan 05 2005 at 9:47 PM Rating: Good
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Screens of Nalei's (IRON member) livejournal as of this moorning

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/pellaz/darters2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/pellaz/Darters.jpg

posts were deleted shortly after I found out about the livejournal.

Added iron response 1/8/05:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/taruinertia/DSC00297.jpg

Edited, Sat Jan 8 21:23:46 2005 by PellazIsNotABug

Admin Edit: Got out of hand, locked.

Edited, Sun Jan 9 08:45:29 2005 by Darkflame
#2 Jan 05 2005 at 9:50 PM Rating: Default
Aw godammit, i'm supposed to be the attack dog around here... at least now that EVERYONE will see how easy it is to hack HNM's with all the chaos that should ensue square will be forced to fix it somehow :D

SO, are we still so High and Mighty the only way you guys can collect your **** is to cheat? Why not just sell your gil while you are at it.

Achievement meter= Reset to 0
Respect Meter = reset to 0
Laughs had by all = +100

want to try playing the game like real people now ?
#3 Jan 05 2005 at 10:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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This is even more unfair to us PS2 users who have NO way of leveling the field...come on SE, get some gods be damned balls and crack down on this utter BS!!!

Im willing to bet the same thing that happen with the gilsellers (here the word happen means 'absolutely nothing') happens here...
#4 Jan 06 2005 at 1:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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i still think a protest march would be awesome.
#5 Jan 06 2005 at 1:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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Sheesh... Thanks for posting that Pellaz, but in the same token wish I didnt see that. However, I guess if people are gonna cheat, might as well inform folks.

Nothing else to say, but that is sad.
#6 Jan 06 2005 at 1:55 AM Rating: Good
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kind of takes the fun out of hunting HNM to know people do that :(
#7 Jan 06 2005 at 2:02 AM Rating: Good
of course people do it, but so very few post it where the public can access it freely , god bless free speech.
#8 Jan 06 2005 at 2:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well, I see one solution

Make the darters aggro.

Way to go IRON!
#9 Jan 06 2005 at 3:00 AM Rating: Excellent
I just want to see if or what the excuses and denials will be -_- /farewell respect.
#10 Jan 06 2005 at 3:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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OMG IRON is bigest cheating HNM LS in bismark. Why i didn't find it hard to beleive though?

Here is one related simular matter with this kinda bug/hacks.

http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50693

Go aways those people who plays a game and find any possible way to cheat and take advantage off other honest people. Yes i am talking to you IRONs. And i can't believe HALF THE ******* LS IS DOING THAT. You people just earned yourself been the biggest ORGANIZED Cheating LS ever exist in bismark. Atleast one that got discovered by public.

I hope there is a bug/hack that can remove certain people that will never show on my screen when i play in bismark. Because I cerntainly will not stands to play with any of them in bismark anymore. Way to go Tredvolt, Been the leader of the Biggest Organized Cheating LS really earn you some reputation.

Hate people that abuse bug/hacks game ever since i touch MMORPG.
Sorry might be over reacted. AND FOR GOT SAKE FIX THIS **** SE.
I also applogize to those people are in IRON LS that didn't know or cheated with "The Other Half of Cheating members" But since i don't know who did or who did not. i will have to put all IRONs into my List. Sorry.

Edited, Thu Jan 6 03:07:40 2005 by Moooooo
#11 Jan 06 2005 at 3:52 AM Rating: Decent
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Was this really necessary? Posting something considered 'private' in a public forum? =/
#12 Jan 06 2005 at 4:05 AM Rating: Decent
thats like telling everyone that discuss' gil sellers to keep quiet. because what they do is wrong but no1 should speak of it? i feel this is a similiar situation and everyone should speak and know of these things... much like people do with the gil sellers and how people feel about them. its wrong and people should know its happening.

and i dont believe the matter is very 'private' when it was on a public journal from someone in the LS... these are my opinions although and you are entitled to yours ^^
#13 Jan 06 2005 at 4:09 AM Rating: Decent
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LOL this reminds me of r_picmap 5 in quake 3...
#14 Jan 06 2005 at 4:27 AM Rating: Decent
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Maybe so, but this just appears to be a deliberate vendetta to me. The ripple effects from this, as well as current rumblings in various linkshells (like the Bluesteel incidents) is just going to make everything currently negative about Bismarck that much worse. If someone has a problem with someone else's tactics, even if it's suspected cheating, they should confront the person, and deal with it rationally, instead of carrying on like kindergarteners playing "tattle-tale".

Yes, Bismarck is full of kindergarteners... and I'm disgusted.

Moving on now...
#15 Jan 06 2005 at 4:36 AM Rating: Decent
well im glad you see these actions as... tactics... and just an fyi: no1 did any tattle-tale'ing because once again, the person in the LS said it themselves on an open public journal

if you didnt want anyone to find out and possibly discuss cheating within an LS, you wouldnt be stupid enough to post it on a journal like that
#16 Jan 06 2005 at 7:13 AM Rating: Decent
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How can be it considered private, it's posted on a public livejournal forum that *anyone* can read.
#17 Jan 06 2005 at 7:31 AM Rating: Decent
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Sometimes the best way to put a stop to things like this is to publically name and shame those responsible.

But then, they seem to have done a good job of publically shaming themselves.

Dont shoot the messenger.

Its hard enough to get a claim on most HNM without being purposely cheated out of it.

And to openly admit to it?
#18 Jan 06 2005 at 8:50 AM Rating: Good
Forgive my stupidity...I'm not familiar with darters. I see according to Alla they're flies. Are these people removing the data file from the game files so that when fighting this NM they don't appear?

What is the advantage to this? Easier to target the NM? Obviously I know very little about this kind of thing Smiley: confused
#19 Jan 06 2005 at 8:56 AM Rating: Good
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Imagine the benefit you would gain if you could /targetnpc spam instead of everyone else having to manually target the HNM.

I hope this crap doesn't open pandoras box. I hate cheaters. Rate up to the poster bringing this to everyone's attention.
#20 Jan 06 2005 at 9:08 AM Rating: Good
Ah that makes sense.

Very sneaky. They should make it so that if you don't have the file the flies aggro you, imagine being beaten to death by nothing ^^
#21 Jan 06 2005 at 9:34 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm just waiting for somebody to start screaming "WALLHACK!" next time I'm up in the Aery..
#22 Jan 06 2005 at 9:42 AM Rating: Good
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Alauce - that brings back memories of my Medal of Honor : Allied Assault days.
#23 Jan 06 2005 at 9:43 AM Rating: Decent
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Kylindar wrote:
Was this really necessary? Posting something considered 'private' in a public forum? =/


It was not private, if it was I would have not obtained it, it was in a publically accessible livejournal.

Kylindar wrote:
If someone has a problem with someone else's tactics, even if it's suspected cheating, they should confront the person, and deal with it rationally, instead of carrying on like kindergarteners playing "tattle-tale".


I did talk with Nalei, she didn't really have much to say about the cheating, and deleted the livejournal entries shortly after. It was Nalei deleteing the entries that made me decide to post the screens...


Edited, Thu Jan 6 09:49:46 2005 by PellazIsNotABug
#24 Jan 06 2005 at 9:48 AM Rating: Decent
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Doublepost

Edited, Thu Jan 6 09:49:20 2005 by PellazIsNotABug
#25 Jan 06 2005 at 9:57 AM Rating: Good
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There's a huge difference between being a taddle-tale and informing people of things they would want to know. I wouldn't care if Pellaz posted a thread about how Nalei called Pellaz's mom a *****, but I DO care that half of the Iron LS is cheating. This is in no way being a taddle-tale. Besides.. Nalei posted this information on a public webpage. This isn't leaked information..

*Edit - Alauce made me realize a good point ^^

Edited, Thu Jan 6 10:11:16 2005 by Chopss
#26 Jan 06 2005 at 10:08 AM Rating: Good
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Interesting. I didn't know you could do that. *has evil thoughts*

Actually, someone pointed their suspisions to me earlier when camping against IRON. What boggles me is why anyone would write this down in a searchable medium. But in all honesty, have we really learned anything we didn't already know?
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