Getting Harder to Find Good Players?Follow

And when they don't want to listen to the knowledge you want to share, what then? I say the hell with their asses. I was recently in the Dunes on my PLD and got invited to a party with some Rank 1s with no subjobs. Chipmunk was also in this party, and frankly, it was godawful. We had a PL, who's name I've forgotten (a friend of Chip's). Anyways, I kept telling the RDM, who was nuking, to calm down on the damn nukes for reason of hate control. His response, "Why? We have a PL." -_-

The PL was ******** to me in tell about the RDM's overnuking, and I told the PL straight out, "If he keeps doing it, I'm going to let the mob kill his ***, to teach him a lesson." They were also talking other such nonsense, such as "If we all rush the goblin when it's doing Bomb Toss, it'll drop it."

Anyways, one of the Warriors left and the PL decided to go get their WAR that was around our level. For this I was glad, because I'd like to take PLD up to high levels, and I want to learn the job well, and I don't feel I could with a PL. Not that I minded it all that much, but...you get my point.

Anyways, the party leader, this Rank 1, no subjob having chump, starts giving Chipmunk crap for letting the PL go and get a job that they also wanted to level. Yeah, because PLing is such an exciting experience for the one doing it. The leader then went on to tell Chip that he'd kick him if not for the PL. Chip then went on to leave because of this bad attitude, and I left right after him because I couldn't stand the attitudes of these n00bs (as opposed to the kinder, gentler, willing to learn newblets).

So yeah, it's a bi[/b]tch when HL people with valuable knowledge leave the game and take their knowledge with them. But what's the point in passing on knowledge when it falls on deaf ears who think they know everything anyways?

Frankly, the experience soured me to the idea of going through the Dunes again with a pick up party of people who don't know what the fu[b]ck they are doing. Especially since I get to get my THF through there, and I'm less than thrilled about having to level that job to begin with. Perhaps I can get people together and go to Bubu instead. That's what me and some friends did when we were leveling out first Advanced Jobs.

sorry for being late on this, but I've been out of town.

Anywho, 9,000 out of 9,001 parties with DRG are going to invite a THF. With THF subbed, You're useless. First voke is still VERY much needed even with Assassin. If you do not party with a THF all the way from 20 to 65, you're pretty much useless. No matter what, Distortion is VERY lovable. It's fast, it's easy, it gets the job done on most EXP fodder mobs. Sure, If first voke wasn't needed to stick hate to the tank like white on rice, yes...THF sub would be feasible. But, It's not. So, Sub WAR.

WAR- Berserk, and Provoke. Berserk being helpful to you. Provoke to you, and your party.

THF- Sneak attack, and Trick attack. Useful to me, myself, and I. Your party is not benifitting from this.

There you go. Firsthand experience that shows why experienced players avoid playing with the beginners. Seasoned players are just trying to avoid grief, not trying to be mean or look down to the new players.

[quote=emilyiaThere you go. Firsthand experience that shows why experienced players avoid playing with the beginners. Seasoned players are just trying to avoid grief, not trying to be mean or look down to the new players.[/quote]

Oh fu[b][/b]ck it. Nevermind.

Do what you will.

We've all had the good tidings and misfortunes of playing with L33T groups that roxxxxooors and the flip side, which include n00bs and other such nefarious morons.

While blaming it on the Dunes, Rank, Newbletteness, WoW or any other in fad term, is hunky dorrrrry none of the above can really be generalized. Newbs make mistakes, noobs are just dumb and are simply ignorant.

Until recently I've played mostly 'pick-up' parties over six jobs and like most others have stories for both groupings.

Personally, Dunes and Qufim are my favorite areas. The entertainment of newblettes and noobs, be it the genuine enthusiasm of the newb or the asanine behavior of a noob make these young areas sporadically funny. Especially when you think back to your first job and how your buffoonery probably pissed off someone and caused them to write you up on a vent thread to some board you didn't even know existed.

What irks me more is the Rank XXX, I have a level XXX, I know more, have more, and am better than you will ever be player.

These guys are the ones that reem a newblette, because their provoke macro isn't perfect. They scream at the White Mage, because their hit points dropped below half. They laugh at the young Samurai, because he's not getting the Renkei right and berates the Black Mage for not bursting. They drop out of a party, because it's not gaining UBER 250+ chains. They kick a party member, because it will be more efficient with another player. Most of this is unnecessary and unfair for these levels.

If you miss a Renkei in the Dunes you lost what...?... 20 damage? Etc.

Lead by example or leave. Easy as pie. Mmmmm... Pie.

The Dunes is a great place to just have fun. If you die, who cares; two mobs and you've got more than you lost in experience anyway. Many people lose sight of the fun factor and focus on the...I *HAVE* to level so I can . . . and forget that this other guy is struggling to collect a couple fire crystals so he can afford the boat back to Mhaura.

Maybe that newb Paladin *IS* doing a good job, but you're tricked out in uberness Ranger keeps stealing hate anyway. It's not his fault that you bank rolled yourself into a L33Test hate stealing Ranger. Stop comparing people to your set trick partner, whom you know so well, you excuse him *before* he farts. Try rolling yourself a new character and not telling your LS friends, who are so very kind to PL. Make new friends and walk that broke life that we all hate soooo much.

Everyone moans about Garlaige Citadel and complains about all these not so good players causing problems, but who really causes the big problems in Garlaige or the Nest? Hmmm... that L50 dragging up an undead or a blazer? And then not coming back to clear it, maybe?

I used to read these threads and think, **** I really screwed the pooch cause I didn't know *EVERYTHING* about my job. Well, you just gotta have fun and let loose. Have fun in the Dunes, charge a Pugil or get lucky and kite VE as an L15.

Even at the higher levels, people whhiiiiine if a Poisona or Refresh is missed. "Refresh Can I have it?" Poisona... Poisona... Poisona...

These threads are funny, because we all live out these scenarios over and over. Then we read and write about them here to laugh and basically co-miserate.

The higher level I gain, the more I realize that it's the same people causing the same problems whether it's the L15 XXXX pc in Dunes or the L50 XXXX pc in the Citadel. When I get to L 75, I'm sure there'll be even more complaints, because then you know even more and expect even more and one miss can cause party death, but hey... WTH that's what Raise III is for right? Uh, oh... here comes the n00b I didn't like in the Dunes to tell me how to do my job... yup, he hasn't changed.

Drop another quarter in the machine...

Newbs learn and then they teach.

Noobs just get more ignorant with a hefty spice of arrogance.

<Steps off the soap box.>

As to the question of whether it's harder to find good players.

We have lost some good friends, but we've gained many new ones.

I don't think the pool of good players has changed dramatically, simply shifted to the next brigade of young'uns. We've lost as many, hopefully more, bad eggs than we have quality players.

My hope is we end with a better concentration of people who enjoy the game, not for perfectionism in every move, but because it's fun.

Edited, Wed Jan 12 11:58:57 2005 by Jaxxsword