I apologize but I just have to get this off my chest. I'm incredibly TIRED of people rating others down simply due to disagreeing with what their post said. Personally, I couldn't care less what my "site karma" was on these forums...but when I see my, or someone else's, post get rated down due to me expressing my opinion in a non-argumentative way, I feel as though the system is being abused.
It's great for when someone posts an informative, wonderful plethora of information. To rate it up gives others the notification that it is worth the read. But to rate down someone within a thread? Just seems counter-productive. I would only consider rating down someone if what they said was excessively offensive or beligerant. To warn others that whatever is written there is not a good read.
This did not occur on the server forums, it was on the main. Seems a particular person was upset that I felt his verbose argument about linkshells ended in the wrong way. He then proceeded to insult me even though I technically never disagreed with what he had said. I responded, he responded again. Both of my posts were rated down, and his ended up rated up from where it was before.
To "band together" to make people look like their opinions were stupid is just ridiculous, no matter who it happens to. It's the same behavior that makes certain children afraid to raise their hand in class for the remainder of their school experience.
I mainly just needed to get that off my chest, but I'm also wondering if anyone else is tired of the "karma" abuse.
Edit: Spelling O.o
Edited, Tue Dec 7 18:36:56 2004 by Hyla
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Tired of the arroganceFollow
I dont mean to Disrespect you in any way but if you "Dont Care so much" Then why post about it?
I don't care about my own personal rating.
I care when perfectly benign, meaningful posts are slammed because someone happens to disagree with what was said.
I care when someone holds back on what they want to say because they don't want to be insulted or ridiculed by a small percentage of people who find the internet a great forum for instigating arguments that aren't necessary.
I care when people use anonymity of the internet to be bitter and take their anger out on other people, who despite being a handle on a forum, are real people with real thoughts and feelings.
I care when perfectly benign, meaningful posts are slammed because someone happens to disagree with what was said.
I care when someone holds back on what they want to say because they don't want to be insulted or ridiculed by a small percentage of people who find the internet a great forum for instigating arguments that aren't necessary.
I care when people use anonymity of the internet to be bitter and take their anger out on other people, who despite being a handle on a forum, are real people with real thoughts and feelings.
*huggles Hyla*
I understand what you are saying and figured you sounded like you needed a huggle, hope thats ok...
There are two things I try to remember about people in general...
The most common element in the universe is not hydrogen, it is stupidity
and
Now matter how many miles or fairies you put inbetween them, people always act the same
I also agree with your complaint, if you disagree with a post state why, especially if you are going to rate someone down. And when you make your statement dont go telling people they are stupid or thats dumb or whatever, thats just your opinion...and opinions are like a$$holes, everybody has one and the often stink.
I understand what you are saying and figured you sounded like you needed a huggle, hope thats ok...
There are two things I try to remember about people in general...
The most common element in the universe is not hydrogen, it is stupidity
and
Now matter how many miles or fairies you put inbetween them, people always act the same
I also agree with your complaint, if you disagree with a post state why, especially if you are going to rate someone down. And when you make your statement dont go telling people they are stupid or thats dumb or whatever, thats just your opinion...and opinions are like a$$holes, everybody has one and the often stink.
I'm always up for hugs!
*huggles Yukio*
I've seen you around sandy before, I think. You were talking about AF...awhile ago.
Edited, Tue Dec 7 23:47:15 2004 by Hyla
*huggles Yukio*
I've seen you around sandy before, I think. You were talking about AF...awhile ago.
Edited, Tue Dec 7 23:47:15 2004 by Hyla
I unfortunately have not been ingame for over a month now...
I always talk about AF, cause Im a RDM and I really REALLY want mine ><;;
*huggles Hyla again*
I hope I helped with my post ^^
I always talk about AF, cause Im a RDM and I really REALLY want mine ><;;
*huggles Hyla again*
I hope I helped with my post ^^
Machtaru wrote:
I dont mean to Disrespect you in any way but if you "Dont Care so much" Then why post about it?
Far be it for me to quote myself...
>.>
but it's possible to dislike someone throwing pebbles at you repeatedly, every day, without caring much about what damage the pebbles are doing.
there is some big idiot i hate on the forums, he's an a$$, try to show off and look good in front of people saying beautiful words blah blah blah when he's completely the oposite, my whole ls knows it and when they meet him pretend to get along with but just hate his 2 sided face. i read the posts anyway, cant help but hate him more when reading his replies and crap. where am i going with saying this? even tho he's the biggest moron ive ever knowned on bismarck, i've never rate him down. I respect what everyone have to say, and i just let it be is it too hard? heck there shouldnt even be a rating option i think. That's my opinion anyway...
I just rated everyone up and this is just an experiment. Watch my karma get assaulted.
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Nice to finally know the truth, thank you. Next time I just wont /wave, and if I ever did is because even though we might not really see eye to eye, I am still grateful and recognize that most of you guys helped me out in way or another. I tried to appologize to some, but some accepted it and others didnt. I appreciate your post though at least now I can ignore you without feeling guilt.
As a matter of fact I may sometimes act a certain way, but I am head of 3d logistics at Turner Construction, NYC (one of the biggest construction companies in the USA and abroad). Currently I am working on several presentations including the World Trade Center Terminal. My presentations help people get multi-billion dollar projects. I am not trying to flaunt, but just like anyone else when attacked I defend myself.
About you hijacking an LS to make your own and have a power trip about it. Great do as you wish I dont pay for yours or anyone else's subscribtion on your LS. I rather have the people that stayed behind than any of you guys anydays.
Please spare me the BS, and even if you wanted to you couldnt rate me down "Mrs. User". As for me there is no need to rate anyone down. Just keep this BS off the boards please.
Edited, Wed Dec 8 10:36:28 2004 by JoLOveS
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Keraya wrote:
there is some big idiot i hate on the forums, he's an a$$, try to show off and look good in front of people saying beautiful words blah blah blah when he's completely the oposite, my whole ls knows it and when they meet him pretend to get along with but just hate his 2 sided face. i read the posts anyway, cant help but hate him more when reading his replies and crap. where am i going with saying this? even tho he's the biggest moron ive ever knowned on bismarck, i've never rate him down. I respect what everyone have to say, and i just let it be is it too hard? heck there shouldnt even be a rating option i think. That's my opinion anyway
Nice to finally know the truth, thank you. Next time I just wont /wave, and if I ever did is because even though we might not really see eye to eye, I am still grateful and recognize that most of you guys helped me out in way or another. I tried to appologize to some, but some accepted it and others didnt. I appreciate your post though at least now I can ignore you without feeling guilt.
As a matter of fact I may sometimes act a certain way, but I am head of 3d logistics at Turner Construction, NYC (one of the biggest construction companies in the USA and abroad). Currently I am working on several presentations including the World Trade Center Terminal. My presentations help people get multi-billion dollar projects. I am not trying to flaunt, but just like anyone else when attacked I defend myself.
About you hijacking an LS to make your own and have a power trip about it. Great do as you wish I dont pay for yours or anyone else's subscribtion on your LS. I rather have the people that stayed behind than any of you guys anydays.
Please spare me the BS, and even if you wanted to you couldnt rate me down "Mrs. User". As for me there is no need to rate anyone down. Just keep this BS off the boards please.
Edited, Wed Dec 8 10:36:28 2004 by JoLOveS
I usually only rate up, and that rarely. Only times I rate down are if it's a derogatory post or something like an advertisment, any of that kind of crap.
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here is some big idiot i hate on the forums, he's an a$$, try to show off and look good in front of people saying beautiful words blah blah blah when he's completely the oposite, my whole ls knows it and when they meet him pretend to get along with but just hate his 2 sided face. i read the posts anyway, cant help but hate him more when reading his replies and crap. where am i going with saying this? even tho he's the biggest moron ive ever knowned on bismarck, i've never rate him down. I respect what everyone have to say, and i just let it be is it too hard? heck there shouldnt even be a rating option i think. That's my opinion anyway...
Keraya, trust me, you'll feel much better about yourself and the situation in general if you just tell the guy how you feel about him. He may be twofaced, but it's also twofaced to pretend to like him when you actually don't.
It's not my business, but it seems like you have a hate pot boiling for the guy, you'll feel better if you take it off the stove.
Sioux the Silent wrote:
Keraya, trust me, you'll feel much better about yourself and the situation in general if you just tell the guy how you feel about him. He may be twofaced, but it's also twofaced to pretend to like him when you actually don't.
It's not my business, but it seems like you have a hate pot boiling for the guy, you'll feel better if you take it off the stove.
It's not my business, but it seems like you have a hate pot boiling for the guy, you'll feel better if you take it off the stove.
Thank you Sioux. Instead of making secret meetings in the middle of the night and trying to make a new LS and trying to band everyone against me and a few others. But it seems Blood is Thicker than water, as me and Enubis are like blood relatives.
Seriph wrote:
secret meetings in the middle of the night and trying to make a new LS and trying to band everyone against me and a few others.
I've got to say a thing about this, since I was at the 'secret' meeting. I was the first person to name anyone that bothered me in the LS. I'm not sure if that's considered an attempt to band people against another person. If that's the way it seems, then so be it. I don't recall Keraya attempting to persuade people to hate other people. It just so happens that opinions about other people were expressed.
The LS split, let it go. It happens all the time.
Namari wrote:
The LS split, let it go. It happens all the time.
Yeah I did let it go, in the public's view. I have never posted about this and have never brought it up into the public's eye ever since I was asked not to post about this by some people, a couple of days after the incident. But this thread was not about it and Keraya made it into it. By calling me an @$$, play as you wish with whomever you like. At the end of the day it is just a game, harsh words were traded and grudges created.
What I really think that got people upset about me is the fact that I sometimes make jokes that people find offensive. I also curse when I speak sometimes, I grew up in NYC is just the way the people around me spoke, this the way I speak. I am not changing my ways for no one, not for anyone in a video game never the less.
I appologize if it seemed I was hijacking this thread, but I felt attacked and I defended myself.
Edited, Wed Dec 8 11:35:48 2004 by JoLOveS
Sorry to troll but ...
/em looks at the Bismarck Forum.
/em looks at the main forum.
... hmmmm we're getting closer day by day.
Did we really need a karma rant in here?
/em looks at the Bismarck Forum.
/em looks at the main forum.
... hmmmm we're getting closer day by day.
Did we really need a karma rant in here?
Hyla, welcome to the internet, specifically forums on the internet
If you're going to put your opinion and thoughts out, expect people to comment on them. That's just the way things work.
People do not always agree with each other, they do not always think the same way, and they do not always react the same way. Your post does nothing more than show your distaste in people that do not conform to what you see as the Utopian Allakhazam user.
You are not the first to bring about this Karma rant, and sadly you won't be the last. All I can say is a hearty "Get over it".
If you're going to put your opinion and thoughts out, expect people to comment on them. That's just the way things work.
People do not always agree with each other, they do not always think the same way, and they do not always react the same way. Your post does nothing more than show your distaste in people that do not conform to what you see as the Utopian Allakhazam user.
You are not the first to bring about this Karma rant, and sadly you won't be the last. All I can say is a hearty "Get over it".
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I don't rate because I dunno wtf this karma stuff is nor care. :P It doesn't matter to I wouldn't even know if I had been rated down or not. :D
Zomgz... it's Fira!
Ratez upz prz!
Ratez upz prz!
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If you're going to put your opinion and thoughts out, expect people to comment on them. That's just the way things work.
By all means, let people comment. I encourage others to share what they think. It was never others comments that bothered me, it was the visualization I got in my head of some trouble-making kid or bitter adult scrolling down the page and just clicking "awful" for every post that disagreed with them...coupled with a "Mwahahahah! I win!" /end attempt at humor.
If I read another post about someone's karma I'm rating that person down. If you all want to complain and say you're being trolled by some random person, don't, because I'm telling you right now, you turn these forums into a personal whine fest because someone out there didn't like what you said, I'll rate you down for it. (This is not entirely directed at the original poster, this is mainly becuase this is like the 5th friggin karma thread in all of two weeks on these forums, and I'm having one of those "last straw" moments).
I didn't post this before when the whole Nata thing was going on because I just wanted those threads to die and wasn't going to bump them, but here is ANOTHER karma thread, and it's getting a little ridiculous.
Any further posts about karma will be rated down by ME, not some random troll. Get over it.
/blist karma police
I'd rate myself down if I could for stooping to the level to even acknowledge that the karma system exists.
I didn't post this before when the whole Nata thing was going on because I just wanted those threads to die and wasn't going to bump them, but here is ANOTHER karma thread, and it's getting a little ridiculous.
Any further posts about karma will be rated down by ME, not some random troll. Get over it.
/blist karma police
I'd rate myself down if I could for stooping to the level to even acknowledge that the karma system exists.
LOL how do you rate people? I feel like such a boon.
Hafta have scholar status...and I can't remember how you get it...whether you have to be rated up, post a certain amount, or just never get rated down? :o
LOL i got a rate down for asking how to rate, how ironic
ops nvm guess thats my karhma however that works
what di u get from getting a rate-ups neway? is it the premium member ? or jus fame or sumting?
In response to negative comments about this kind of post:
There's nothing funnier to me than people whining about people who they think are whining.
People need to get things off their chest. Get over it.
If something is bothering a member of a community, they will share it with their community.
This is normal and healthy.
Getting something off your chest is not the same thing as whining per se. Learn to tell the difference.
You're worried about this forum turning into the general forum? Here's a little tip: We're only in danger of that happening when people start resenting each other for the opinions they share, solely because they are tired of hearing them for whatever reason.
If you don't want to read it, don't. I don't see anyone forcing you to read every topic at gunpoint.
Just chill the hell out. This is not life and death, don't throw such a fit just because you don't like topics about Karma.
Seriph, Kereya, I respect you both, but you may want to take any further discussion of this particular hijack to PMs.
There's nothing funnier to me than people whining about people who they think are whining.
People need to get things off their chest. Get over it.
If something is bothering a member of a community, they will share it with their community.
This is normal and healthy.
Getting something off your chest is not the same thing as whining per se. Learn to tell the difference.
You're worried about this forum turning into the general forum? Here's a little tip: We're only in danger of that happening when people start resenting each other for the opinions they share, solely because they are tired of hearing them for whatever reason.
If you don't want to read it, don't. I don't see anyone forcing you to read every topic at gunpoint.
Just chill the hell out. This is not life and death, don't throw such a fit just because you don't like topics about Karma.
Seriph, Kereya, I respect you both, but you may want to take any further discussion of this particular hijack to PMs.
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