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#1 Dec 01 2004 at 12:28 AM Rating: Good
Looking at my post list from my profile, I'm getting rated down in blocks of about 10 posts at a time.

Either someone has a lot of time on their hands to comb thread by thread looking for my posts, or it's a premium service member running a search.

In either case I clearly pissed someone off.

Is it really that much to ask that you tell me why you're rating me down?

Or if I've terminally pissed you off somehow, am I so low in your goddamned eyes that you can't even send me a PM chewing me out?

For crying out loud, just because you still play video games does not preclude you from a need to grow up.

Do I care about my status? Not really. But am I insulted? Oh yes.

Either grow a spine and confront me, or do what Sioux suggested elsewhere (and in general) and go stick pencils in your eyes.

Learn how to communicate and deal with people you don't like. Or for pete's sake stop playing MMORPGs. Go play single player games instead.

Smiley: banghead

Sorry. Paranoid rant. ****** day at work, and I come home to this crap.

[Edit: Yes I realize I've just hung my Karma's balls out in the wind and begged for someone to shoot them off.]

Edited, Wed Dec 1 00:32:30 2004 by nataraja
#2 Dec 01 2004 at 1:59 AM Rating: Excellent
I tried to save you Nataraja but I cannot be there all the time. About communication and stabbing people in the back without telling them their faults, I saw an LS brake like that once. People on both sides /blisted others, happens. I will try to get you some rate ups tomorrow I am tired ATM.

Edit: spelling sucks.

Edited, Wed Dec 1 02:00:41 2004 by JoLOveS
#3 Dec 01 2004 at 2:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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Rated you back up. You should contact the board admins and let them know you're being karma-camped, they can track these things.
#4 Dec 01 2004 at 2:31 AM Rating: Excellent
Rate up for you, my friend!

You always have good posts.

/equip hands "Gloves"

Smiley: yippee

#5 Dec 01 2004 at 3:15 AM Rating: Good
Thanks guys. I mean it. Smiley: smile

Karma Trolls > gil-sellers? Smiley: yikes

Posted in Forum Feedback.

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=3&mid=1101888510489727655&num=0
#6 Dec 01 2004 at 3:21 AM Rating: Good
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Rate up ^^
#7 Dec 01 2004 at 4:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Well apparently you cheesed someone off. :p Be careful posting in the job and main forums, people there are TOUCHY.

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[Edit: Yes I realize I've just hung my Karma's balls out in the wind and begged for someone to shoot them off.]


There's a lovely visual before bed.
#8 Dec 01 2004 at 4:31 AM Rating: Excellent
Never posted in either.

I'm not that suicidal.

I'm proud of the visual image I conjered. ^^
#9 Dec 01 2004 at 8:00 AM Rating: Decent
Damn I did a search and at least 12 that I counted were rated down, thats 23 so far. That isnt right, not bad posts either, some very good ones. Oh well I shamelessly rated them all up.

LMAO
#10 Dec 01 2004 at 8:39 AM Rating: Decent
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I haven't been rating you down, but I have to say that in general, when someone makes an off topic post that derails a thread only to complain about being rated down in a previous post, I always rate that post down. It's just a pet peeve of mine. When good discussions are taking place and someone derails a thread to complain about the flawed Alla rating system, I find that irritating.

But, since this is it's own thread and isn't derailing another thread, it's not in that same catagory. Thanks for making a new thread :D

I just thought I'd mention it, since I *do* rate people down for that, but it's mainly for getting waaay off topic for selfish reasons that I'm rating them down for. And I don't make a post to tell them I've rated them down because I feel that that is equally off topic. Maybe I should though. *shrugs*

Anyways, gl with your trolls, just don't live and die by the Alla rating system, it's pretty meaningless.
#11 Dec 01 2004 at 8:51 AM Rating: Decent
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I believe the rating system is complete crap.
#12 Dec 01 2004 at 9:06 AM Rating: Decent
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OmniscientUnlimited wrote:
I believe the rating system is complete crap.


I would have to agree with you on this one Omni..it sure is!
#13 Dec 01 2004 at 1:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah Nataraja funny you mentioned this because I was just looking at the Bad Players thread and noticed every one of your posts were rated down, so I justified. That's lame.
#14 Dec 01 2004 at 1:17 PM Rating: Good
Ironically, I've also been rated down in the good player's list and the flame thread.

... And crafting services, and the flea market...

etc.

/em scratches his head.

Nataraja's ability to understand troll-logic decreases 0.2
Nataraja's ability to understand troll-logic falls to level 0

Smiley: cry
#15 Dec 01 2004 at 1:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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At the risk of making my own enemies and getting Karma-camped into oblivion I have a small issue here.

While I appreciate the fact that friends are just trying to help each other out here, I dont see any difference between the person/people going around rating every single one of Nata's posts down and those of you going around rating every single one up.

Both of them are defeating the actual purpose of the whole rating system to begin with and, while I do agree that it might be a bit flawed, its all we have right now so maybe we should all learn to work with it?

Rating everything up is simply re-inforcing the idea that the Karma system is just a popularity contest. If another lesser known poster had made this exact post, I'm sure the majority of you would be waiting in line to rate him down even more for making "another Karma thread".
#16 Dec 01 2004 at 2:44 PM Rating: Good
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Rated you back up. You should contact the board admins and let them know you're being karma-camped, they can track these things.


Make sure if you do, don't post in the system feedback forum (Like you did) or even the administration will poke fun at you and your karma.

Instead send an e-mail.
#17 Dec 01 2004 at 2:58 PM Rating: Good
Eleusynia wrote:
At the risk of making my own enemies and getting Karma-camped into oblivion I have a small issue here.

While I appreciate the fact that friends are just trying to help each other out here, I dont see any difference between the person/people going around rating every single one of Nata's posts down and those of you going around rating every single one up.

Both of them are defeating the actual purpose of the whole rating system to begin with and, while I do agree that it might be a bit flawed, its all we have right now so maybe we should all learn to work with it?

Rating everything up is simply re-inforcing the idea that the Karma system is just a popularity contest. If another lesser known poster had made this exact post, I'm sure the majority of you would be waiting in line to rate him down even more for making "another Karma thread".


I agree completely with Ele's post, actually. I commented briefly on this in response to a hijack in another thread, but I think it should probably go here too.

While I appreciate efforts many have made to bring my Karma back up, that really wasn't the intent of the post.

I have no problem with being rated down if you don't like my post. That's why the karma system is there. But in this case someone appears to be stalking me; I feel harrassed and insulted.

Consider this post then, merely a return volley, and the only one I intend to make at that.

I am no Karma *****, and wasn't really even considering this as a bid for Karma or sympathy (though I appreciate what has been given.) If anything, I actually expected it to be rated into oblivion, and as such it hits home with me that I have garnered some respect from my fellow posters, and I'm honored.

At the end of the day, this is what I want.

If I make post A, and you feel post A provided useful information, brightened your day, or otherwise enriched your life IRL or in the game, feel free to rate me up.

If it annoys you, pisses you off, you find it offensive, retarded, whatever; rate it down.

In either case I would personally appreciate some reasoning given for either. I like anonymous rate ups as little as I like anonymous rate downs.

If I make a post that really does neither of these things for you, is just some random pointless post, or a response to someone in a hijack you care nothing about, please refrain from rating me up or down, just because you generally like/dislike me.

I am no Karma *****. I was mildly surprised when I gained sage status, and flattered, but at the end of the day I really don't think I deserve it (though that's really not my decision), and I think I gained it too quickly for my tastes.

The point with which I take issue is the feeling of being stalked and harrassed. It's like someone picking at you in a social setting in small, subtle ways that affords you a growing sense of embarrassment.

And, at the end of the day, it is my opinion that karma-trolling is excessively juvenile.

Hence the post.

I really should have labeled the title as a [rant], but it slipped my mind when I posted it. I apologize for not being more clear in the title, and in general.

To those who have been watching my back, thank you. Just don't spam it or go overboard.

Rate up if the post, not the poster, deserves a rate-up.

/bow Eleusynia.

Should have been a bit more clear I guess. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
#18 Dec 01 2004 at 3:01 PM Rating: Good
SingBismark wrote:
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Rated you back up. You should contact the board admins and let them know you're being karma-camped, they can track these things.


Make sure if you do, don't post in the system feedback forum (Like you did) or even the administration will poke fun at you and your karma.

Instead send an e-mail.


Great.

I distinctly recall being called a f*cking c*nt by the administration of another forum I joined several months back, simply for being new and not having a sense yet of what things they found annoying.

I'm generally leary, since that incident, of having any dealings with mods, though my lurking in the general forums leads me to believe that Kao and the rest are of a higher caliber than this mod who flamed me.

Nevertheless, now I'm leary of looking in that thread. Smiley: frown
#19 Dec 01 2004 at 6:23 PM Rating: Good
Hey Nataraja you are very right about that, people being just straight up haters. If you try to pat yourself in the back about succeeding in something they rate you down, just because they dont have the lvl of skill to do so.

They hate you just because they envy you and what you have achived. They hate you because you are good at what you do and not gimped like them. Dont let it get to you, this is just a piece of land on the internet. We right here at your home in bismarck server forums will look out for you (at least I will).
#20 Dec 01 2004 at 6:31 PM Rating: Good
JoLOveS the Charming wrote:
Hey Nataraja you are very right about that, people being just straight up haters. If you try to pat yourself in the back about succeeding in something they rate you down, just because they dont have the lvl of skill to do so.

They hate you just because they envy you and what you have achived. They hate you because you are good at what you do and not gimped like them. Dont let it get to you, this is just a piece of land on the internet. We right here at your home in bismarck server forums will look out for you (at least I will).


/bow

The trolling happens. But I think I have a fair idea of who I've ticked off. I can think of two.

(I admit, however, that I am rather paranoid.)

But it just blows my mind. Maybe it's just because I've been through my trial by fire on internet boards already, posting in a faith & religion forum.

I've been a spammer, a flamer, and a troll. And at the end of the day I found that spam is not such a big deal as many like to think. People who gripe about spam in a general community forum are just ppl looking for something to ***** about, in my opinion.

If I learned one lesson though, being a troll because you find the ppl in a community to be laughable is absolutely assinine. By trolling, you become the one who's a joke.

And flaming serves no purpose. It makes me sad beyond belief that so many people can't contribute to an online forum without being full of rudeness and insults.

This is an online forum, not a direct conversation. You have even MORE opportunity to consider your words before replying. Just because someone's ticked you off does not mean to say the first mean and nasty thing that pops into your mind.

I know I'm preaching to the choir here. Just thinking out loud again. But hey, at least it's in my own thread this time. Smiley: grin
#21 Dec 01 2004 at 6:53 PM Rating: Good
Me being stalked also.



Edited, Thu Dec 2 18:11:35 2004 by JoLOveS
#22 Dec 01 2004 at 7:44 PM Rating: Decent
At the risk of it being accused that I'm abusing the Karma system, I rated some of them back up, either in cases where I could find no reason for a rate down, or felt it deserved a rate-up on it's own merit.
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