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#27 Nov 30 2004 at 2:31 PM Rating: Good
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Had to go and through out that wish for DRKs to get Warp, didn't you. Stop putting that idea back into my head, damnit. LOL

Anyways, yes, we need juices to be stacked. Hare meat getting stacked would also be nice. I don't use it, but I'm thinking about starting to work on cooking. It's asinine that hare meat stacks before you cook it, yet not after. But the juices, mmmm...will make playing my PLD even better.

New equipment and what not? Sounds good to me. Love having more goodies tossed at us, especially in time for the holidays. As for what will get stacked at 99 now instead of 12, anyone have any ideas?

Dealing with gilfarmers? A step in the right direction. Seems the AH fee is also going to be used to curtail that. From what I've seen so far, kudos. Also, nice thing to help the DRGs out as well.

Now, thanks to BauKa, I'm going to go back to thinking how nice it would be if I had Warp. Thanks a lot. -_-
#28 Nov 30 2004 at 2:40 PM Rating: Good
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Hey Xano, wouldn't it be nice if DRKs had Warp?

*flees!*

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#29 Nov 30 2004 at 2:44 PM Rating: Decent
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/em gives bismark "teh shifty eyes" and runs away.

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#30 Nov 30 2004 at 2:49 PM Rating: Good
Who was that masked man with the linkage?

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#31 Nov 30 2004 at 2:51 PM Rating: Good
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I'LL GET YOU!!! Damned Hume BLM hippie. /fume
#32 Nov 30 2004 at 3:03 PM Rating: Decent
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I have to say that the AH tax thing worries me a bit. Poor implementation could have a negative impact on the availability of lower priced items.

For higher priced items that don't sell well anywhere but a high traffic AH (like Leaping Boots on the Jeuno AH), yes maybe the person selling them will think twice about gouging if they are being charged for it. But for smaller items in the 3 cities, say for example Ores, people may opt to not put them on the AH at all if the tax cuts into their profits. They may opt to only bazaar the items which would somewhat hurt the crafting community by making it harder to find synth materials.

Typically, SE does a pretty good job at implementing changes that don't negatively affect one part of the population while beneifiting another part, but if they do this AH tax thing poorly, there could be negative ramifications for everyone, especially if their definition of "current auction house price" hinges on the price history which is *very* easily manipulated.

It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. All in all, most of these changes sound exciting, although some do worry me a bit ;)

Edited, Tue Nov 30 15:04:05 2004 by Apocpink
#33 Nov 30 2004 at 3:06 PM Rating: Good
My thoughts on the AH tax is that if you have a stack of something that you want to sell for 10k, you'll pay 100 gil (provided that it's a 10% tax). So anywhere, including jueno, you'll pay the same flat rate for each item. I hope it'll reduce crazy prices on everything.

Then again I could be way off on how this will work.
#34 Nov 30 2004 at 3:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Wintaru Defender of Justice wrote:
My thoughts on the AH tax is that if you have a stack of something that you want to sell for 10k, you'll pay 100 gil (provided that it's a 10% tax). So anywhere, including jueno, you'll pay the same flat rate for each item. I hope it'll reduce crazy prices on everything.

Then again I could be way off on how this will work.


10% of 10K is 1,000 gil
1% of 10K is 100 gil
#35 Nov 30 2004 at 3:14 PM Rating: Decent
The masked man who has fooled you all today is none other then... ORFEO! *cough* *choke* *die*

Erm...anyways the AH taxes are a heaven sent.

That whole rusty cap ******** awhile back flooded the game with gil, by taking out more gil that means less gil is there to spend 8billion gil on one item.

Less gil=cheaper items
#36 Nov 30 2004 at 3:25 PM Rating: Good
cheaper items=less time spent farming.

properly implimented, this will be a good thing. There's no cause, for example, for a lvl 7 pair of boots to cost so much. o.o
#37 Nov 30 2004 at 3:39 PM Rating: Good
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I'm very excited about the new equipment/items. And a little scared about what they'll do about NM's and their drops. That's my income there. Smiley: smile

I guess we'll see. I'm sure SE will work it out in a fair way.

Dare I hope for different colors of the same equipment?
#38 Nov 30 2004 at 3:41 PM Rating: Excellent
OH MY GOD, ONEMAN IS GONE!?!??

/em has a fit, dives into FFXI and snatches up all those dusty, cobwebby pickaxes.

COME! MINE WITH ME! I WILL NOT STEAL YOUR POINTS! ONEMAN LA MORT!

/dance
#39 Nov 30 2004 at 3:44 PM Rating: Good
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Capes, I wanna see capes, mantles, yadda yadda, a little flowing in the breeze, whipping around during stormy weather. Yeah capes... like my new black one... I wanna be debonnaire in my beautiful new cape. Who looks debonnaire in their cape when no one else can see it. Capes...let's see em.
#40 Nov 30 2004 at 3:51 PM Rating: Good
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I had always thought that was lame, that you couldn't see the back wear actually on the character. Would be nice if they showed them, but...I don't see it happening.
#41 Nov 30 2004 at 3:52 PM Rating: Good
GaranTheElvaan wrote:
Capes, I wanna see capes, mantles, yadda yadda, a little flowing in the breeze, whipping around during stormy weather. Yeah capes... like my new black one... I wanna be debonnaire in my beautiful new cape. Who looks debonnaire in their cape when no one else can see it. Capes...let's see em.


The emperor, of course, still wears no clothes.
#42 Nov 30 2004 at 3:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Sioux the Silent wrote:
OH MY GOD, ONEMAN IS GONE!?!??

/em has a fit, dives into FFXI and snatches up all those dusty, cobwebby pickaxes.

COME! MINE WITH ME! I WILL NOT STEAL YOUR POINTS! ONEMAN LA MORT!

/dance


XD Rate up.
#43 Nov 30 2004 at 4:07 PM Rating: Decent
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A lot of the gilsellers are gone, maybe, but the Zooes are still around and the Loves still have a Stroper Chyme monopoly. I have to admit I'm somewhat worried about what they might implement for that. It still seems to me that it would be much easier for them to just ban the gilsellers than change everything around so it's harder for the gilsellers to get their gil, but also hard for the legitimate player to get gil, too. Meh, I'll wait and see.
#44 Nov 30 2004 at 4:07 PM Rating: Good
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Who looks debonnaire in their cape when no one else can see it.


lmfao
#45 Nov 30 2004 at 4:16 PM Rating: Good
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First off: /poke Byaina. Haven't seen you in ages. Hope all is well. ^^

Secondly: Sioux: >:P Grats on your gloves and Dark Spark flames. Lucky ***. I'm gonna go cry now. lol

Yeah, I'm interested in seeing how all this goes. Then again, I jones for FFXI all week at school, so anything to do with the game gets me interested.

{I'm interested} indeed.
#46 Nov 30 2004 at 4:18 PM Rating: Good
Dryhus wrote:
Wintaru Defender of Justice wrote:
My thoughts on the AH tax is that if you have a stack of something that you want to sell for 10k, you'll pay 100 gil (provided that it's a 10% tax). So anywhere, including jueno, you'll pay the same flat rate for each item. I hope it'll reduce crazy prices on everything.

Then again I could be way off on how this will work.


10% of 10K is 1,000 gil
1% of 10K is 100 gil


Doh! My poor math skills have been called out Smiley: banghead

You get my point though, a flat rate at all AH's will promote lower prices across the board, which could be a good thing I'm thinking.
#47 Nov 30 2004 at 4:24 PM Rating: Good
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Secondly: Sioux: >:P Grats on your gloves and Dark Spark flames. Lucky ***. I'm gonna go cry now. lol


Oh you know I'm gonna help you kill that ugly little hydrogen blob :D As soon as you're ready let me know, I'd love to sharpen my sword on some tomb warriors with ya.

Oh, and :P!!!!!

hehe
#48 Nov 30 2004 at 4:41 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, I know you will. heh heh

At least, I hope ya will. >.>

Chibi have any more luck on his AF in the Citadel? I'd really like to see him get that item. ; ;
#49 Nov 30 2004 at 4:47 PM Rating: Decent
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I was thinking more along the lines of a flat tax rate hurting new players more than it will hurt rich players. Say there is a flat 10% tax on all items you place on the AH. When new players start getting charged 300g to put up a stack of fire crystals for 3k instead of the 15g or whatever they get charged now, who is that really going to hurt?

Maybe there aren't that many new players left out there, but I remember my starting days and they were rough when it came to earning gil. I remember having to come up with 10g one time just to put something up for auction. Imagine if that changes to 300g. You just won't use the AH to sell things. You'll zaar them.

A flat tax in general hurts lower income individuals more than it hurts higher income individuals simply because 300g may be 25% of the total gil a new player has, whereas 300g is less than .001% of the total gil for an experienced player.

But they never said it would be a flat tax, we're only speculating here ;)

A flat tax will hurt new players more than it will hurt experienced players, and the new players aren't the people we are having problems with, so a flat AH tax rate would be an example of *poorly* implementing a new AH tax (imo anyways).

However, SE may have something completely different in mind that we haven't even thought of, and that is what I was hoping.

It also makes me wonder if the tax would be based on the last 10 entries in the history, or if it would be based on the average of the price of *all* the items up for auction at that time. Either way would have different results, and I think I'd be more in favor of not using the past 10 history listings, since we've all seen they can be easily manipulated.
#50 Nov 30 2004 at 4:57 PM Rating: Good
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The fee collected when placing items on auction will be determined by the current auction price, not the store/guild selling price.


This is not good. Jeuno AH will suck horribly if they make the same tax as they do on Bazaars. We may all be buying out of bazaars soon because we no longer want to pay the tax, we will end up making the buyer pay the tax.

And can you imagine putting up a 1.0 - 10 million item for 100k each time until it sells? What if something takes a whole month to sell, it no longer becomes viable to use the AH.

-Tweed



Edited, Tue Nov 30 16:58:39 2004 by tweedius
#51 Nov 30 2004 at 5:00 PM Rating: Decent
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When Wintaru said "flat rate" I think he meant a fixed percentage rather than a fixed amount of gil. So, rather than 10% on a stack of crystals and 0.01% on an amemet skin, maybe 2% for everything.
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