Thank you to you guys on the forumns I wont post here again!Follow

Ya, I haven't been posting to/reading these boards much lately either for the same reasons that you are mentioning.

I am not effected by gilsellers or fishbotters or the evil HELM (harvesting escavating logging mining) warlords. Yet it seems that some new person has to ***** about them everyday.

It's the same thing day in, day out, sometimes there are interesting threads to participate in on the server forums, but mostly it's people ******** about the same crap as in the main forum which I haven't read in at least a month.

My advice? Go to the server forum, go to the tradeskill forum (if you're into that) and go to your class forum and subjob forum, the rest will make you go nuts (like my avatar o.O).

-Tweed

Since I started this thread I feel obliged to keep responding, thank you guys for the response. I didnt want to sound like a freaking whiner but I love this game and I feel very good talking to all of you guys on my server. Hell if it wasnt for this forum I would have never probably met Yekan who is probably my best friend in game.

The problem is people not wanting to die alone and feeling that people need to assure them that their decision to quit is right. The gil selling problem is very well known and even when people have something positive to say or do about the problem the same people that complain are the same hipocrits that rate down that person.

Is just funny the same idiots that play this game and are very elistists are the same onces that post on the main board. The same idiots that lvl WHM/DRG. I will probably post on the server I was very pissed but will probably stop for a while before I do. I really like everyone here on the Bismarck forum and dont wanna lose contact, if you need my help I will help you as long as I am free at the time you are in need.

for some reason the Karma system here reminds me of exp. The harder to try at it the more ull get and will be bale to lvl up. Scholar to Sage to Guru.

Hey Omni I probably wont leave, I will probably still be here reading and occassionally posting on the server forums. I guess there are IT mobs outside this forum, because this is a very friendly server we are in. Is just that things have gotten very negative outside the server forums, mainly on the main forum, all this talk about gilsellers scams, WoW who cares.

Honestly if you like WoW go have fun is your life dont let me define what life should be. As for me I have always said it I will play till the servers dry up, lvl 75 PLD all skills capped drunken rich and having killed most or all HNM at least once and all other jobs at 37 or above.

The FFXI main forum is nothing but garbage anyway. I'll sit back here and enjoy this little nook of ours thank you very much. Too many tards post in the main forum anyway.

Got to love them trolls. Stay on my own small space not bothering anyone, I did mention I wasnt going to post anywhere so as not to clutter anymore I will use this forum to communicate with people my feelings. Anyways I just wanted anyone to know if you need my help just let me know seems thats all I have been doing lately.

grats on being yellow^^

Thanks but might not last long. You know it sounds silly but it is verry human to feel accepted, and maybe this is why I payed to post here and try to be Yellow. I felt left out once in FFXI and quit for 3 months, I missed my LS so I returned mainly because of the people that post on our server forums. I am very disappointed at many people that post on the main forum but I cant let it get to me I guess. Thanks for the encouragement.

-Seriph

Grats on being a scholar Pariis. Will do ma'am as soon as I get out of work. I am very lonely at the moment my office is empty.

Edited, Wed Nov 24 13:48:24 2004 by JoLOveS

Rate up all for the encouragement.

I used to post on a forum dedicated to the discussion of all things relating to Faith and Religion. Hosted by the band Creed (don't start on me about Creed, I only used the forum... -_- )

Dear god, the fights we'd have. It's a subject most people seem unable to discuss without resorting to the outright flaming of any opinion that differs from the norm.

And it got worse over time.

When I started posting there (this was years ago) folk were generally polite in most topics. We had a few trolls, but generally everything was dandy.

In all honesty the place really began to degrade when the folk who posted there started trying to enforce rules about posting, which essentially amounts to "I don't see a point to this post, therefore I'm going to flame you."

I eventually got banned by Wind-up Records. Creed had a new album coming out, and in order to promote message boards safe for Creed's average listener demographic (minors) they banned anyone who had swore, even slightly, in the last 3 months, or had expressed an opinion which differed greatly from the ones promoted by the band.

I had been posting there for 2 years, had close to 10,000 posts in.

By comparison the alla boards, even the main boards, are pretty tame.

But there's still no call for flaming (unless in a flame thread or toward a post expressing true social bigotry). There's no call for rating down just because you (they) don't see a purpose to a particular thread or post.

That's something that always irked me about the convoluted rules of etiquette associated with forums nowadays. That every thread must "contribute".

In my mind, any thread in which one member of a community engaging in conversation with another contributes to the community at large.

But its a general rule that the more frivolous threads will get burried if you leave them alone. And if they don't, then perhaps others disagree with you as to whether or not it "contributes".

At the very least, no one is forcing you to enter any given thread.

From many years of experience with forums, I can sum up the key characteristic of a good forum in one word.

Relaxed.

Getting your panties in a wad never helps anything.

That wasn't really directed at anyone, just thinking out loud.

It's something I've been thinking about for a while. This thread allowed me to put it into words.

Thanks for creating a thread which "contributes", Seriph.

Yeah, rating system is very prone to abuse. Doesn't matter how polite you are, you're more likely to be rated down when someone just disagrees with your opinion than not.

IMHO, I wish the Bismark folks would all migrate to EZboard instead of using Alla's here. For one, that would let me post as my FFXI character name instead of my old EQ name that I used to register for Alla way back. It would also get rid of the rating issues. Qumdi setup an EZboard, but what it needs is traffic. Lack of traffic means peeps don't want to use it. No one using it means no traffic ... chicken, meet omlette.

Here it is if you're curious: http://p073.ezboard.com/bffxibismarckserver