IRON - RecruitingFollow

Yes, but dragon was on us so why does it matter? You kite Kirin and its not white?

See this is the problem, we see differently. You said dragon was unclaimed and stood there but thats not what we saw.

And no, we didnt reply you doesnt mean we give you permission to pull.

[qoute] See this is the problem, we see differently. You said dragon was unclaimed and stood there but thats not what we saw.
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If you still even had aggro, when Kfcc ran through our alliance Fafnir would have followed he didnt, he just sat there.

Please refer back to my post from today, when your around it and fighting it and it goes white, that is clearly stealing, when your hauling *** away from it, and no one is trying to claim it, and were stuck inbetween whats left of your pt and the HNM that is white, to me thats a fair claim, Aggro was reset, and you were not going into right direction, and now we know you ignored us, when we tried to talk to you, this whole mess would not have happened if you just said, were are not done please give us a chance, we would have respected that request, but you didnt, and we were left guessing and you saw from what happened with Nidhogg, how when these Dragons are uncontrolled how they can wipe the whole pit

Lol yea I'm full of **** tredvolt. pretty obvious who this is now.

Truth is painful isnt it.

And someday you wont be fooling anyone but yourself anymore.

hihi...
stealing is stealing
stealing is wrong
wait til they all die is wise.. we were even nice enough to let Fafnir kill every last IRON before we engaged the other night, despite Zzion's call for help. Just the easiest way to handle these things;;

next time you take nm.. just think: would my momma approve of this?

^^/ bye

-Zenelly



Edited, Sat Oct 23 01:17:23 2004 by Zenelly

All due respect jawas, with the deliberate jabs I took at tred (no secret before this post how i felt about him) it's hard to not believe otherwise.

With his close friendship with some of the BR people, (his main attack on my standards, (that being the retaliation action for Amikiri) coupled with his utter loss of intellect (stooping to "you are full of sh*t" x3 it's otherwise painfully obvious.

I jabbed him where it hurt, and thats the best he can muster for a reaction.

So tred, since you think our taking our revenge on serket was bad, does that mean if Lunies Stole a claim from you, in a VERY obvious fashion, that your own people wont retaliate? Or say IRON had done this to Lunies, instead of AD... do you honestly think that "something" wouldnt happen? I'm not that unrealistic to think that Ghandi is running either of our shells. why else do you think we are so careful to avoid such actions? lets turn bismarck into a living hell for fun!!! YAY!!!

So, now whenever tred does finally order the trains on Lunies, we're ready, and expecting them now. (as opposed to writing off tred's statement as hot air before, now we have a reason to believe him)

So, that being said, when is IRON going to take that final step to prove me right? Come on now, I know your folks are pissed. You got caught, and now it's time to lash out since apologizing to AD would be far too difficult.

Sincere Congrats on Kirin BTW, it was far too long in coming, and i'm glad to finally see you doing something big.

I hope whoever has the money to BUY the shining cloth from your group is someone deserving.

Holy ****! Are you listening to yourself!? Synapsis, you are trying to provoke a response? You're acting like a child. As far as I can tell, you are just milking every last drop of the situation. This has only happened 100 different times on other servers. Synapsis, your prejudices are so thick that I don't believe a word from your mouth should be trusted.

It's simple. What have you added to this conversation, other than instigating more "blind" rage? In all honesty, you have very little to do with the matter. If a resolution between iron and AD were to come about, an agreement was made, it would have nothing _what so ever_ to do with you. You are coming off as the kids cheering the fight on in school. No matter how much you justify your involvement with "but we could of pulled it too", if your are adding nothing but controversy than blind prejudice, your posts will be sorely unwanted.

Great, there was drama on bismarck. We all like it because we are all in some way involved. But you can't (on a public forum no less) think that the problem will ever be resolved if every tom, diick and bluemary wants to kick in there 2 cents. If you have a REASONABLE point to make, and you want to post it in a NEUTRAL manor, then I wouldn't mind hearing your comments. But you are doing nothing but rabble rousing.


Before accusing me of being an iron supporter, I have no real affiliation with the matter. ALL I am posting about is the people that have nothing to do with the matter other then the need to provoke it further.


Iron: What is done is done. I'm glad to see that most of your party is staying civil in the matter and I hope that every LS could display this maturity. I don't know if you felt your actions were justified or not. I don't know if a apology is in order or not. But regardless of the "affiliations" with other linkshells, I trust that in the end, your LS leader will take what action he/she believes is justified.

AD: If you were so scorned in the matter, I would only hope that you would pick a better place then a public forum, in a topic intended for recruitment to respond. But don't get me wrong, I don't blame you for this in anyway. I think the bulk of this was nothing but people who are more interested in the drama then the situation. If you are a civil LS, then accept the resolution that Iron makes, regardless of the outcome. Take the high ground, even if iron doesn't.

Lunar: I'm sorry to say this, but you are coming off immature and down right evil. As a bystander, please just stop. I want to see a resolution to the problem, and unless you have a less problematic way of making your points... then I see no point in hearing your retorts. Who cares if tredvold (spell?) has affiliations with other LSs? In all honesty how can you not? If you close your LS off and never interact or forum relations with people outside of your LS you might as well have a server to yourself. I honestly don't see this as the "beginning" of Iron stealing HNMs. If you see something I don't, that is your opinion. But any retaliation on your part will only hurt your LSs reputation. Yell at me if you want, try and take my post apart point by point. But in the end you will add nothing but spam, nothing towards a resolution to the problem. I am trying to remain as neutral as I can. Above all else, I just want to see a general resolve.

BR: I have only heard rumors of the LS, I don't even know what it stands for. But I have heard a rumor that at one point you where in the same situation as AD with lunar. There were 2 members left and wipe was seemingly unavoidable to the other LS. I am told that words were tossed around but in the end nothing came of it. I'm not placing blame on lunar for this, but I do believe this situation seems a lot like what we see here. I believe there is little way lunar could of known to pull much as there would be little way iron would of known to pull. Regardless of the reasons behind pulling, he's was pulled. I see there is bad blood between the LSs, and all I can hope for is that Iron and AD can come to a common agreement.

Everyone else: Your opinions are welcome. But I hope both parties take them with a grain of salt. In the end no one can speak for the LSs involved other then there respective leaders. If you wish to comment that is up to you, but I will personally try and post constructive comments and only go out of my way to comment on the posts that lack merit.


I would like to close:

I never intended to hurt anyone and I tried to remain as neutral as I could. I was more harsh with lunar but that is only in response to the needless drama that they brought to the table. You can flame, but what would that accomplish? My only intention for posting is in the near future, i hope to see a solution for a problem everyone will agree, should just come to a resolve.

P.S. Please for give my poor grammar and spelling. _(. .)_

Edited, Sat Oct 23 19:44:27 2004 by DramaQueen

I can't put credibility to any post that doesn't have an in game name attached to it. With a name like DramaQueen, what weight should we place into your opinion?

I'm glad to see there isn't a slew of flames.



In my experience, taking the high ground is not "sinking" to the level of the aggressor. If iron continues those actions in the future, i believe your negative sentiment would be well deserved. From what I see though, this is nothing more then a misjudgment. One i could see many other LSs making once. But, i believe at the end of the day, this is a lot of drama over something we have only seen once from this LS.



That post was directed to the members of the LS that have posted in the thread. I don't know of the actions taking in game by either LS. The basis for those opinions are surrounding this posts made by the LS members. I think a lot of AD members had some really good points, but a lot of the posts come off as threats, instead of what I would only hope as a possible end to the matter. I understand your angry, but its not going to gain you any ground. Personally I would let my LS leaders take care of the matter and try and keep needless bickering amongst the members to a minimum. If they are uninterested in a resolution, then take the high ground and turn the other cheek. I can say I would respect you a lot more for doing what's right, over doing what you feel is justified.




My points are still valid and my intent is still clear. Would you throw stones at the one person not inciting a witch hunt? I have friends in both AD and Lunar, I do not intend on burning bridges over this. But i could not stand by and watch this silly event unfold. What weight does my opinion have? No more then yours my friend. We are equals in that regards. This is the medium for expressing opinions. You can disregard my post if you feel it necessary.



Please forgive me if it seems I came off this way. I was only addressing the members and the posts in this thread. I personally believe iron was wrong in pulling fafnir before its time. But if the thread seems a bit bias, it is only because i disagree less with the manor this event was portrayed and addressed in a public forum. This is nothing but smearing, and that is just as bad IMHO.



This, i could not agree more with.

I will try and restrain from any further posts, thank you for putting up with my rant.