Was I wrong? If so, what to do?Follow

This is something that has been eating at me for a while now. The incident happened quite a while back, but its come back to bite me in the *** recently. I'd like some of yalls opinions as to whether I was totaly out of line, and if I was, what I should do about it.

/deep breath

Ok here it goes: I was in a supremely great group in crawlers nest. We were getting great chains, the puller was awesome, the whm had erase (hurray!), all the damagers were mindfull of thier aggro and hate was locked down on the tank (me).

We had finished a chain (either 4 or 5) and we all reasting up mana to begine anew. Then I see on my screen: soandso is defeated by a worker crawler, followed by several other "death messages". I peek my head around the corner to see a group has been decimated by worker crawlers (at least two). Only around three members of the group are still standing. I think "thats too bad, I wish I could help".

The reason I choose not to run in provoking like mad is my group was in no condition to fight even one crawler, let alone the add that would have resulted. When I'm tank for a group, my first and foremost concern is the well being of my group members. I shrug it off and tell my party to be careful, as worker crawlers were on the rampage. We had full intentions of raising the whole party after the crawlers had finished thier grizzly work.

Then the ranger of the group that was being munched on by the crawlers makes a bee line for my party with two crawlers in tow. He then just stands right in the middle of our party. Were still in no conditions to fight. In two or three hits he goes down, the crawlers leave to go find one of his fellow party members that bolted earlier. I say "Just sit tight, when our whm has mana she'll raise yall".

After the raise this ranger has the audacity to start calling us names, cursing at us for not helping and what not, so on and so forth. Everyone in my party was like "wtf????". He went to go take a knee by the rest of his fallen comrades, when his party member that had run off came training the crawlers back ontop of him. I guess his hate had not died with him because the crawlers decided to take the ranger out again (ahh, gotta love karma). Out of cruel humor I do a /point and laugh emote at the ranger's corpse (which in hindsight my not have been the most tactful thing to do).

Then I get the tells. Not only is this ranger cursing me out the paladin in the group is giving me heck for not jumping in and trying to save his group. The ranger is just as foul mouthed as one can get, but the paladin actualy seems intellegent, so I try and reason with him, letting him know my parties situation and that I would have gladly helped had we been able to. By the end of the night the paladin and I were on good terms, he respected my decision, and how it was the best one for me to make for my party.

But the ranger, jeez, theres no reasoning with this guy. "You should always try to help" is basicaly what he was arguing (in between the name calling and cursing, it was hard to keep a line of communicatin open).

After awhile I guess he decided to leave me be (after I had ignored him for a while). My group continued to level and all was good. Then I get an invite to crawlers nest recently and when I get an invite, I'm not in the group for two seconds when the ranger says "This Sigmund guy is a horrible player, I wont party with him". I think "wth??" (I didnt remeber his name at the time). Finally after complaining what a bad player I am he says he wont party with me, and promptly disbands.

I sent a tell asking him what his problem with me was, and hes says: "it dosen't surprise me a jerk like you dosnt remeber the horrible things he does" I cycle through my memory of rangers with attitudes I had partied with and I'm thinking this guy is one that had a problem with me in the jungles of Khazam (for some reason this ranger didnt want to pull). I asked if he was the guy from Khazam, and said "I thought we had worked that out". He then replys "No it happened here, you probably cause so many problems you cant remeber them all". Then he says "welcome to the blacklist".

Then I get who it is. I had completly forgotten this guy. I certainly dont care what he thinks about me, but I dont want him spreading the word around that I'm a bad player either. Is there any thing anyone can think of so that I can reason with this guy? Was I completly in the wrong for not risking my own and my party's life trying to bail him out? I just dont want a bad reputation on our server.

Sorry for posting a rant-type thread, but what I'm really asking for is advice, any would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

sounds like this guy was a moron
you did what needed to be done, you cannot always be concerned with the matters of another party (especially if you are in no position to take on a potential add). I would say just blacklist this idiot and move on, having a person or two pissed off at you will not kill you, I find that it makes the game more interesting :)

Siggy you did the right thing. You kept your party safe wich in return gave them sure raises after your party was healed and those crawlers found their way back to their home.

If you would have jumped in even if you zoned it there was the risk that the crawler would go after your party on its return or it would just attack the same party again while they were weakened.

Must be some kid who was upset about his xp loss not his party dying. Dont let it bother ya Siggy your a good person and I'd party with ya any day and you know it :)

When I was in CN, doing Rumbles, we ended up being one player short... while we waited for our 6th to arrive, a pop tried to destroy us. The incredibly kind group behind us was in moderate shape but took it from us, and I healed them as much as I could. Thankfully they were higher than us and had little problem. A few fights later my party was doing rather well, and to my horror I watch this party behind us drop to a Helm Beetle pop + link. Although my party was in mid-pull, our other mages had plenty of MP and I had convert ready to go.. so I /checked til I found the WHM< raised him, had our WHM raise the RDM, and continued to follow their progress through /tell during my party's fight.

My point is, when you CAN help, you should. If that party had been nearly dead when the Rumbler popped on us, I would have understood them not helping. We couldn't help them with a Helm, but we could help with cleanup. You were in the right. That guy is a big meanie. Kick him >.>

You should ignore him, Helping, even if its a morally right thing to do is still a CHOICE not a responsibility, some people need to understand that. Even if your party is full health and sitting there not helping, it is still your choice. Now no one ofcourse would do a thing like that because helping creates friendship and good impression. But helping is still a choice. You're not responsible for anyone's death due to their circumstances that you have nothing to do with. That ranger need to grow up and realized its his bad pull that killed the party and he should take responsibility.

Just like everyone said, you did the right thing. The only thing you're guilty of, is feeling guilty for something that was not your fault. You did your job by making sure you kept your party out of harms way while the other party got mauled.

It's completely understandable that the party which was defeated was quite mad. Anyone whose whole party dies would undoubtedly be pissed, but stuff like that happens in the game, and people need to learn to deal with it. Sure everyone always wishes that they would be saved, but they need to look at it from the other person's perspective. In these situations, it's easy for people to lash out and blame someone else for what happened to them.

In the end, just don't worry about it. You can't please everyone. If you HAD tried to save the other party, you probably would have gotten your own killed, and then there would be even more people angry at you. Personally, I would invite you over that ranger anytime. You're definitely the better person, and a lot more mature than that ranger.

Seriously, people need to realize something about Crawler's Nest. If you make a train or get an add that you can't handle without a blm to escape or a whm to tele, JUST DIE. I can't count how many times my party had to evacuate because some idiot trained workers or soldiers to the zone. And even some rumbles and beetles once too! If you get in this situation the correct thing to do is just die and ask someone nicely for a raise. Making these trains just ruins it for other people. So to your question I say, you did the right thing and that rng should be shot for training them to you.