Bad Player Lists - Why? Stop the Hate!Follow

Start clicking on all the forums for the servers here on Allakhazam and you begin to notice a trend as you read thread titles, "Bad player _____, ALERT!!!, BAD PLAYER LIST, WATCH OUT FOR THIS GUY! [Rant]"

What's the point? Feel like griping about how you didn't get stuff exactly the way you wanted it? Felt like you needed to rant about so and so stealing a kill or taking advantage of some n00bs? Or is it that you just want to point out to everyone you can find that so-and-so was human and fell to the all too common practice of being a complete jerk to someone online?

There is enough negativity on the boards and around people throwing tantrums in game that someone could do a study on hate and barely scratch the surface after 20 years of study.

I motion that this Bismarck forum ban bad player lists, poor players lists, and anything derrogatory toward another player or linkshell. Let's actually have a fun, happy, and helpful server. I think we're almost there; we just need more effort!

(^_^) Tarutaru for Server Peace!

It's human nature to want to pinpoint "people to watch out for" or "bad people".
You can't stop humans, you can't stop ignorance, the internet is crawling with both.
Though there has been 2 failed attempts at keeping a "Bad players list" organized people continue to want to do them.
Insanity.

Hello! Let me say a few things about my favorite subject and philosophy, Sociology!

There is no such thing as Human Nature. Everything we learn is learned through socialization while we're young and continued as we grow. If you recognize an action as something that is done, then you have the power to stop it. All it takes is some will power! ><

I try not to hate or be hated by anyone. But even I break down sometimes. I usually go off and go running or relax with a movie and a beer (ummm, root beer, yeah).

Anyway, just wanted to say that. I understand your wanting to condense lists TseTsuo and respect the initiative, but you're not a moderator and hence, have little power to enact plans of this nature. You can only do as I am doing, plea for comformity or to be followed.

I must say, I enjoyed this forum when it was Tset's journal. Everyone was kind, not a lot of flaming, it was my haven from the main boards.

Anymore though it seems we have more and more hating. I don't get to hang out with a lot of you, but I see a lot of people around and I know we're capable of rising higher than this.

That said, I doubt I'll be posting as much since it seems a lot more thread are dedicated to bashing, so I'll probably just be lurking in the background, sifting through posts for those that warrant a response ^^

Not trying to flame here, just complete curiosity, but is this really true?

I had thought that anti-essentialism was still a rather intensely debated topic in humanity fields.

You don't like it, don't read it. People are going to make posts complaining about people; the whole reason these were EVER created in the first place was to keep those threads in one place so you could ignore one thread if you didn't want to read about it, rather than having to ignore dozens of threads about it.

Nobody is trying to encourage people to ***** about each other or make up stories or be childish. I SURE as hell wasn't trying to encourage the level of nastiness we've seen recently. That's not the fault of the lists; that's the fault of people who can't police themselves and have no respect for anyone else. I still maintain that I would rather have those threads as one centralized place for this madness than to have nastiness spring up all over the forums. At least with one thread you know the nastiness is in one place and you can ignore it at will.

The thread was always meant to WARN other people about things they may not have heard about. I always use Lizy as the best example of this, and I'm using her again. We all warned each other about her so we all knew about her tricks. That's the reasoning behind the thread. Not "OMG THIS PESRON IS A JERK HE DIDN'T LET ME INTO HIS FULL PARTY!!!!1111oneoneoneoneone" I've explained this so many times and people persist in misunderstanding. The last batch of utter nastiness had nothing to do with the thread, you know. It had to do with the person who started the thread. It could have happened anywhere else, and in fact quite a bit of it was in his journal; it just happened to be in that thread. If people would have some sanity, maturity, civility, and understanding, maybe, just maybe, the real purpose of those threads would be understood. Granted, I'm really losing faith that I can expect any of those things from people who post here, but let me delude myself for a little longer.

That's the last time I'm going to try to explain it. If you don't like the threads, fine. I understand. I just ask that you understand the reasoning behind it. Let's just move on, please.

Ok, all I have to say is this. Here's ole Xano's two gil.

If we didn't have threads such as this, how would we have been informed about Lizy? Now, I had read about Lizy back when this was all on TseTsuo's journal. This was back when you actually had to search and do your research in order to find out stuff about your server.

Prime example: I was on very early one morning and got invited to a party in the CN. We had a everything but a puller. Now, as I had run into the CN, I saw Lizy outside with a flag up. So, I meet up with the party in the secret room and they say they've found a THF and the THF was on the way up to meet us. I automatically get a sick feeling and sure enough, they had invited Lizy. Now, I had never had a run in with Lizy, and had never partied with Lizy, but after what I had learned from this website, I frankly didn't give two sh[b][/b]its. I didn't want to be around anyone who would pull a scumbag move like that. Neither did the DRG in the group, who had also read about Lizy and wasn't too keen about partying with "her".

We both said in /say "Drop Lizy or we're leaving. She's got a bad rep and is a thief." So, the leader gave Lizy a song and dance about something or other and we got rid of "her", found someone else and had a good old time.

Now, I think I had a point, but I've been hitting the sauce all night. Oh, yeah...the point is this: threads like these DO serve a purpose. It's when they go to hell with petty infighting that they lose their informative nature.

Hope this wasn't too long and rambling, but...whatever. Go drink a couple of hard ciders and maybe it will make sense then. =P

Byaina, I have a comment.

I am sure you are proud of your SAM headgear, and I am proud of you!

However, in your avatar it appears your toon is not too happy to be wearing it...almost as if it is being punished :p

You have anything more comfortable for her?

For emphasis, since I already said it and it bears repeating?

And Trizz, my avatar always looks pissed off and/or frustrated. She just isn't a very happy Elvaan.

Edited, Fri Oct 8 17:19:02 2004 by Byaina

Exaggeration or not, I take extreme offense at this. If you bothered to read ANYTHING of what I've written, you would know how untrue and unfair this is. You haven't, for whatever reason, understood what I and many other people have said repeatedly are the reasons for why those threads exist. Now you're being unnecessarily rude, so I'm done dealing with you. I'm tired of belaboring this point. Think what you want. Obviously, nothing I say, no matter how rational, will affect it at all.

Edited, Fri Oct 8 21:54:42 2004 by Byaina

Or(As a continuance of Eldoofman's post.) start just an all out flame on the person, or the "I SOOOO DID NOT DO THAT." thread.

I did that, Then I was reminded what I did and apologized for it.