hmm you really think so? Well I've seen people get rank 5 even before they get their advance jobs, so I just thought it was possible. getting to rank 4 doesn't seem too hard as long as you have a group to go and slaughter the brass quadavs I believe. I was offered help to get to rank 5 by my LS, but thought I'd ask here to see if anyone was interested, so I wouldn't have to get the high levels in my LS to actually help me with this. heh thought it would be good to meet other people on the server to work on getting our ranks higher together.