Gilfarmers...need to be stopped.Follow

I saw a Rank 1 THF06 (no sub) today leveling in East Sarutabaruta with a bazaar open.

Only had one item in the bazaar - Bloodbead Amulet. O.o

I'd like to know how that happened...

Gil farmers suck yes ><, but it isnt going to go away with only threads :P

For now their here to stay, and will be here until a smart answer to it is though up.

It's an automated response, they say that when you complain about bots and stuff. Always.

Wintaru:


Didn't read the whole thread so I'm not sure if this was mentioned or not, but theres a group that is ALWAYS in Ordelles Caves camping Stroper Chyme(12min spawn, drops Archer's Ring<300-400k>-used in making Sniper's Ring)It's not a NM, technically...But it spawns in 2 points every 12 minutes and they run back and forth.

I say it also has to stop i got somewhere to camp a nm im alone and they come out of nowhere and steal a mob i was sitting there 2 hrs for waiting to spawn. I mean i get fustraded to the point when im off the game a few days. What the Gms and SE should set up is if theres a number of complants on a person put a ballasta icon on them and make it that someone anyone can attack them whenever whereever. I mean if they r being killed over and over in the game then im sure there stop being Bungholes and play the game right. All this farming for money is crap if u kill it and get a drop ok keep it sell do what ever but if u got the drop like 4 times and go back again to sell over and over then stfu and go away and let someone like me who has 2 nm kills and no drops get a chance. I have camped over 6 NMs and only got 2 grabs one on Lizzy and a orcish baracader the other orc got grabed away b4 i could grab it i could really use that shield and h2h for my mnk and war.

if it starts with "love" plz dont get it confused with "Lovelylalliee". she's been my friend for so long I dont want her name tarnished :/

Reality > Fantasy

Do what you want to them, but remember that they're making a living farming and selling gil. They farm Garnet Quadavs and Mee Deggi the Punisher not to have uber equipment, but to pay their rent and buy groceries.

And that same argument could be made about drug dealing. So, a drug dealer *could* be selling to pay the rent and keep his kids alive. Does that make it ok? Um. No.

Not comparing gilfarming to drug dealing, per say...but just the fact that the money is being used (maybe) for real needs doesn't really mean that it's a legit way to make a living.

What ends up happening though is this. Generally, as people progress in levels, they gil-farm along the way. But they change items as they level, and that balances the game. Gilfarmers get to a pre-set level, STOP, and then farm forever. They are never doing other things for fame or rank or exp ... because past a certain level there's a wider gap for fame/rank/exp -> gil ratio. These are static characters that do nothing but flood the market with various popular farming goods.

The game is balanced when all characters farm popular goods at various times and remove themselves from the raw materials market when they quest and level. The game is UNbalanced when there are people who *never* remove themselves from these markets and keep the AH unnaturally saturated with a lot of popular farming items, thus both keeping the price pretty low (good for crafters!) and making it generally harder for the majority of the players to make money. Not saying they are causing the apocalypse, and of course the game is already somewhat unbalanced -- but they aren't helping. I think most honest players have a good reason to resent their existence in game, and SE's general lack of motivation to do something about it.

Morality or need be damned. If you'll read the user agreement, article (a) under the "Prohibited Actions" section states that:



Summarized?
Buying and or selling of gil, characters or items in a transaction that involves real leagal tender is strictly verboten. --a bannable offense no less.

This isn't exactly hidden, it's under Rules and Policies > User Agreement on the POL menu, stuffed under the "Play" button.

So, they may be paying the rent by violating the sternly worded ToS, but they're still violating the ToS that you and I are bound to.

Now, boycotting is a great idea, but just like boycotting IGE, boycotting the AH is probably going to fail, as there's no united offensive we can mount. Beyond a mass cancellation of player IDs, I can't think of any practical way to stop the gilfarmers, as SEI isthe only party involved that has any say in the matter.

It's great that we have a community that's willing to unite against these people, and SEI has made it abundantly clear to the playerbase that they want a community feeling, but until they deal with this real and present danger to the player community, I think they can take all these "events" and other ******** and shove it all up their collective asses.

Heeding the wants and demands of your customer base isn't just good business, it's common fscking sense.

For a list of all the gilfarmers i know of go to Gilfarmers thread in the bismarck server forums. It also contains info of what they camp. Oh and if u have any info please post on the thread TYVM
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are lovelv and lovest gilfarmers if so i will ad them to my list?
And to kaiko i know lovelylalliee isn't a gil farmer. On my list i won't put up Love's i only did that with jerrys toms and redapples just because there \is a lot of them ok.

Right on.