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Read the thread again. There are two administrators posting in there and the email was verified from SE. People need to stop acting like such little fucking babies and realize SE has your name and address to begin with. OH IMMA INTERNET INVESTIGATOR!!!!!

Grow up little children. I second the thread lock notion.

Do you actually realize that is the issue of the scan itself, not the transmitting of the data in said scan, and no disclosure agreement whatsoever about this specific scan in question is exactly what myself, Arketa and other people in this thread is objecting towards. The only thing that the official statement from SEI itself have said is that POL in no way is changed to transmit said data.

This statement does in no single way even address the issue we're trying bring up. The issue here is privacy and integrety law, which POL does NOT as it currently performs the scan abide to in accordance to their own ToS and User Agreement. The issue we have been trying to make all along, and which you have failed to grasp even at its basic level, is that you need the end-user consent to even initiate a scan of an third partys system (there are no IFs, BUTs and MAYBEs), you cannot legally do this without having a clause in your ToS, End User Agreement, EULA or license etc . . . that explicitly states exactly what you are scanning for, what is done with the data (including transmitting it) and how it will be handled.

All SEI currently defines are:

1) actions initiated and performed within the POL software and network itself
2) The DNAS check itself, which doesn't encompass running processes and applications on the system in qestion

The issue is that they havn't updated their own license to actually encompass a system scan of running processes. It doesn't matter if it is only looking for one single application, it has to be disclosed in full what the scan perform in an License, ToS or similar document to legally do the scan outside of your own companies owned hardware.

This is the issue at hand, nothing else which you continously seem to derail the thread into it is about. So would you please stop putting words inot our mouth and quoting parts of the User Agreement and ToS which doesn't even cover this specific behaviour. We're all just after an explanation why this scan is happening or a change of the ToS and User Agreement itself so they actually legally can perform this scan.

I myself have no qualms whatsoever about the scan, as long as I AM informed and it is included in above stated documents. As it currently is I am not officially and legally informed about this.

Do you really want to drag this into the forum feedback area? You're playing their game. You installed their game. You pay for their game. The fact that SE responded and sent that response to be posted here should explain how seriously they take that accusation. Yet here you guys are still crying foul when absolutely nothing has been done!

You guys don't like it, quit. SE hasn't done sh*t to your computers. They haven't touched them. And until someone here can actually come up with undeniable proof that they actually are doing something, you all need to shut up and let it drop.

I think you guys seem to forget that the Administrators are here to keepthe forums clean, they are paid to do a job. THEY ARE DOING THEIR JOBS. And you @#%^s want to insult them. Put the shoe on the other foot. How would you like someone getting mad because you didn't give them the answer they wanted, so then they start insulting you.

Yeah, you're real big(general statement not directed towards you liquidedust.)

Pikko brought down the final word from SE. Now they are trying to start up issues with her. Can we just get a lock and end this before it begins?