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#1 Feb 07 2007 at 2:45 PM Rating: Decent
I felt I should make the Allakhazam's owners aware that even though I've been a stalwart Premium Member for going on seven years, as long as you continue to foist magazines on us and abuse the addresses we provided FOR BILLING PURPOSES ONLY. I will not upgrade nor support this site in any way.

Edited, Feb 7th 2007 5:46pm by SteveBooth
#2 Feb 07 2007 at 4:18 PM Rating: Decent
Who's sock is this? just curious lol
#3 Feb 07 2007 at 5:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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You do realize the magazine is free and you don't get charged extra for it don't you?
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#4 Feb 07 2007 at 7:11 PM Rating: Good
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I actually agree to a degree, I did not want the free magazine either for basically the same reasons.

If you speak to an admin though then you can subscribe then send them a PM with the order id number and they can cancel the subscription part before it gets sent.

An admin wrote:

There's a delay between when you sign up and when any info is sent to ZiffDavis.

I'm with you, and tried to leave a blank option in the signup page for people who didn't want anything.

Anyhow, if you'd like - PM me when you sign up and I'll flag you account as the sort that doesn't have info sent to Ziff.


So just ask and it should be able to be cleared up.
#5 Feb 07 2007 at 9:30 PM Rating: Decent
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You do realize the magazine is free and you don't get charged extra for it don't you?


I enjoyed the magazine. I never seemed to get it when I renewed though is it a 1 shot for first sign up?

Also Ohh mighty Zam could you transfer my premium to my new account? I sent Illia E-mails and PM's but I am not patient.

Thanks in advance. :D
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#6 Feb 08 2007 at 6:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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I wish I was sent my magazines... Smiley: frown
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#7 Feb 08 2007 at 9:57 AM Rating: Good
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I wish I was sent my magazines... Smiley: frown
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#8 Feb 09 2007 at 7:40 PM Rating: Decent
The point is, they don't ask, they just misuse our mailing address without our permission. I would have no problem if Alla's gave us the OPTION of recieving a 'free' magazine (I'll deal with that term in a minute). The problem is, they don't, they just send you something you don't want.

It's akin to 'mail-in rebates'. If you wanted to discount a product, why not just discount it. The reason is that in their dishonesty, companies know that most people won't be able to jump through the five hoops you usually have to complete in order to get back the money they promise. Its disingenuous.

As for it being 'free'. Ask yourself this... why would a publisher want to send you a magazine for nothing? They certainly aren't doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. There's got to be a sound business reason. It's either because this 'magazine' is mosly ads for products they want to sell, or its because its only 'free' for a limited period of time, and they expect to go on charging your credit card without telling you. In any case, you can bet your bottom dollar (literally) that there will be some cost to you for this 'free magazine' If there wasn't, they wouldn't do it.

Hence, they are taking my money without my permission, and that's... well... theft.

So no, don't flag my account. Fix your registration screen so I have the option to say NO if that's what I want. Making your users jump through hoops because you sold your soul to a magazine publisher is disingenuous, underhanded, and misleading. It isn't a solution, its a cop-out, and I won't support it.
#9 Feb 09 2007 at 7:48 PM Rating: Decent
Yep. It's exactly what I thought. Get this.. from the 'small-tiny print' on the subscription agreement you are FORCED to accept by registering with Alla's:

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This offer is good once per account per year. Automatic Renewal. Member agrees that his membership will automatically renew for a like period of time at the going rate when the term he signs up for is completed, unless member notifies allakhazam.com ahead of time through the facilities provided for on the site or through notifying allakhazam.com at allakhazam@allakhazam.com.


SHAME on you guys!

Edited, Feb 9th 2007 10:51pm by SteveBooth
#10 Feb 09 2007 at 8:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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I guess I am blonde, can you explain that to me?

We don't charge you for the magazine, WE have a deal with the mag, not you. You get the mag for free with OUR service which CAN be renewed, if you don't want auto renewal, turn it off.

If I am wrong, someone show me.

(we don't give them your CC info!!!)

Edited, Feb 9th 2007 10:15pm by Darqflame
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#11 Feb 09 2007 at 8:23 PM Rating: Decent
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It's a scam
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#12 Feb 09 2007 at 10:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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The only way they get your mailing address too is if you provide it voluntarily and optionally. You are not required to provide the address. We don't bill via the mail. Don't want them to have your address? don't priovide it. Or better yet, give them mine so maybe i'll actually get my copy of the damn magazine.
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#13 Feb 10 2007 at 9:16 AM Rating: Good
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Let me be the first to say:

TIN FOIL HATS FOR EVERYONE HOOORAY!!!!
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#14 Feb 11 2007 at 8:43 AM Rating: Good
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SteveBooth wrote:
Yep. It's exactly what I thought. Get this.. from the 'small-tiny print' on the subscription agreement you are FORCED to accept by registering with Alla's:

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This offer is good once per account per year. Automatic Renewal. Member agrees that his membership will automatically renew for a like period of time at the going rate when the term he signs up for is completed, unless member notifies allakhazam.com ahead of time through the facilities provided for on the site or through notifying allakhazam.com at allakhazam@allakhazam.com.


SHAME on you guys!


underlined for emphasis.

Are you retarted? Turning off auto-renewal is changing a drop down from yes to no on your account screen. It takes less than a second to do, there is no hassle. This is like saying you shouldn't have to hit the "Post message" button, that the site should automatically know when you are done and submit for you.

Yes there is a bit of hoop jumping to get off the magazine subscription, but my guess is that 90% of the people want the subscription.

The point is if you don't like it then don't pay. Coming here and throwing a hissy fit won't do anything but give others a good laugh.

I made a ****** post just like this one about this issue a while back. I was just as much in the wrong, the difference is I listened to the advice given to me and now I'm quite happy with my service.

Edited, Feb 11th 2007 11:43am by TseTsuo
#15 Feb 11 2007 at 10:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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Magazine ad prices are based upon their paid circulation. The more people who buy a magazine, the more they can charge for their ads. Their business reason for giving our members a subscription as part of their membership fee is simply to increase their readership circulation and allow them to charge more for ads. The reason they offer money back to those who request it is that if they didn't it would not count as a paid subscriber.

So the magazine is technically not free, but we also did not have to raise our price to include the offer of the magazine. I personally thought getting a magazine that would normally cost people $20 to subscribe to as part of their $9.99 membership fee was a pretty good deal all around. There's no scam involved. It's just a win win deal for both sides. They get more paid subscribers who are also gamers and likely will enjoy their magazine, and we get to offer a nice additional feature to all our members.
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#16 Feb 11 2007 at 11:58 AM Rating: Good
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You are getting your sh'it in a knot over something that given half a brain and some critical thinking really isn't a problem at all. You can circumvent the problem by not giving the info, or just giving the wrong info as Kao suggested.

Lern 2 think


On a side note I never ever once got my magazine! Hell I even pay the annual fee and I don't get any sweet magazine love! For shame.

Smiley: frown

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