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#52 Jun 29 2007 at 8:57 PM Rating: Good
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Hovercraft + eels = me wishing the line was back between the name and post parts like everyone else.
#53 Jun 29 2007 at 8:57 PM Rating: Good
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This is how I'm seeing things tonight. Everything kind of runs together along the left margin: Names, avatars, post message.

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#54 Jun 29 2007 at 9:00 PM Rating: Good
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MeshaB hit Shift + refresh, should fix that problem.
#55 Jun 29 2007 at 9:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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Stormcrown wrote:
After rating posts, at least on the FFXI style, post colors no longer alternate dark blue to light blue.

Here is an example of what I'm talking about: http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/7329/colorsnf4.gif

Not sure if this is intentional or not.

Edited, Jun 29th 2007 11:15pm by Stormcrown


that's a known issue at the moment, and not too likely to get addressed quickly.

Fixing post redirection, and adding in diving lines on ffxi and eq. (they've been gone on wow for a while now).

Allegory, the main change to the karma system is that if alot of people all agree about the direction of a post, then the ratings get magnified. But it has to be everyone agreeing. In the karma-handjob threads you can ususally count on someone to do the right thing and toss in a negative, (quite often really) which stops any special stuff from happening.

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#56 Jun 29 2007 at 9:10 PM Rating: Good
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Yay!! Thank you Drulian. I'm half asleep so forgive that I read doing that earlier in this thread.. They should have rules against posting and browsing forums while sleep deprived.. LOL
#57 Jun 29 2007 at 9:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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The centered text issue is also in IE 6.0 (EQ sytlesheet)

Also, attempting to post here in Firefox was giving me a "Journal does not exist" error.
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#58 Jun 29 2007 at 9:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
The centered text issue is also in IE 6.0 (EQ sytlesheet)

Also, attempting to post here in Firefox was giving me a "Journal does not exist" error.


That was a hiccup, fixed. Has the centered text stopped yet?
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#59 Jun 29 2007 at 9:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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Fixed now in Firefox. I assume it's fixed in IE as well.
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#60 Jun 29 2007 at 9:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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WoW, IE6

Experiencing difficulties with the most recent post in a thread not always displaying the text until it is highlighted.

Short posts do also seem unnecessarily drawn-out. Someone with an avatar and little to no sig has a ton of empty space underneath simply because the accompanying info box is rather long. Not that this wasn't the case before, but it's magnified to the point I might call it a problem. Really, all that needs to happen is truncate the dead space top and bottom of the arrow images. This space looks to be associated with the image considering the way it highlights, but not the image itself since I can't right-click the section and get a picture-based menu, nor do I get a hand cursor. Font size issue perhaps?
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#61 Jun 29 2007 at 9:27 PM Rating: Excellent
Stuff put on the FFXI style sheet keeps disappearing.

And when I hit shift+refresh, with some of the posts, it makes that black line that seperates the avatar, post count etc etc part from the actual post part, go underneath the post to make it into some kinda weird black bordered box.

Edited, Jun 30th 2007 1:28am by remorajunbao
#62 Jun 29 2007 at 9:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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Firefox/EQ -- With sidebar hidden, you just have a large empty area where the sidebar would have been.
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#63 Jun 29 2007 at 9:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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Azuarc wrote:
Short posts do also seem unnecessarily drawn-out.


on some templates, there's a min post height so that the borders can be drawn properly.

I'd like to replicate the invisible text thing, is anyone with a browser besides ie 6 seeing it?

Edited, Jun 29th 2007 11:37pm by Illia
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#64 Jun 29 2007 at 9:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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While you're fixing all the other aesthetical eyesores (cramped posts, no separation between the poster info and the body, rate button justification, etc.), bring back the numbers.

Please?
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#65 Jun 29 2007 at 9:53 PM Rating: Excellent
Demea wrote:
bring back the numbers.

Please?



Just for a double dose.
#66 Jun 29 2007 at 9:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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Score: Decent

That's not a score! Scores are values! "Decent" or "Good" aren't values, they're adjectives!
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#67 Jun 29 2007 at 9:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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WoW format.

Thank you for moving stars and post count back below the avatar.
Illia wrote:
Allegory, the main change to the karma system is that if alot of people all agree about the direction of a post, then the ratings get magnified. But it has to be everyone agreeing. In the karma-handjob threads you can ususally count on someone to do the right thing and toss in a negative, (quite often really) which stops any special stuff from happening.

It does sound like an improvement, but I am not fully convinced just yet that things are fine and dandy. I am, however, willing now to wait a few weeks and see how users treat the system.
#68 Jun 29 2007 at 10:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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Allegory wrote:
but I am not fully convinced just yet that things are fine and dandy. I am, however, willing now to wait a few weeks and see how users treat the system.


The karma system generally works really well. The main issue I'm trying to address here is that it took too many people rating a clearly awful post down for it to vanish.
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#69 Jun 29 2007 at 10:28 PM Rating: Good
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On FFXI Template, IE6

This might have been addressed earlier, but clicking either arrow doesn't do anything for me, i.e. it doesn't seem as if I can rate.

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#70 Jun 29 2007 at 10:28 PM Rating: Good
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Illia wrote:
The karma system generally works really well. The main issue I'm trying to address here is that it took too many people rating a clearly awful post down for it to vanish.

I think (at least the the old system) had some rather big problems, but I do not wish to take this thread in a different direction with the discussion of the topic. I also do not wish to bother you with yet another issue while you are still working on all the comments made here. I have discussed the issue in other forums before and there have been mixed opinions on karma. Perhaps in a day or two, once the stress of all these new changes goes away, it would be a good time to reopen the matter for discussion.

Though if you do not mind listening to yet another complainer I would be complacent with pming you my thoughts on the problems with the previous system and a few suggestions for improving it.

Edited, Jun 30th 2007 1:29am by Allegory
#71 Jun 29 2007 at 10:29 PM Rating: Good
Illa can you please unnerf the news layout? I can't get an exp party because of it.


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#72 Jun 29 2007 at 10:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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Illia wrote:
Azuarc wrote:
Short posts do also seem unnecessarily drawn-out.


on some templates, there's a min post height so that the borders can be drawn properly.

I'd like to replicate the invisible text thing, is anyone with a browser besides ie 6 seeing it?

Edited, Jun 29th 2007 11:37pm by Illia


Any way to get the minimum post height removed while still allowing the borders to be drawn correctly? If this is just a temp fix then I understand, but short posts have become a lot longer then they need to.

Also, any word on why things that used to take up 1 line are now 2? Examples include: my 10k title, "Add to adress book".

FFXI skin.
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#73 Jun 29 2007 at 10:33 PM Rating: Good
I still get a little bit of those breaks but they mostly only go halfway down the post.
#74 Jun 29 2007 at 10:43 PM Rating: Excellent
New oddity. It seems that you've designed the rating arrows to vanish once you've rated a post, but if you reply to a thread, or come back to a thread, or refresh the thread, the arrows return. And as far as I can tell, I'm able to rate a post more than once because of it.

At least that's what it looks like. Either that, or the scores are taking their sweet time to reload, and when I click the arrow it just refreshes it to what it's suposed to be.
#75 Jun 29 2007 at 10:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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Master NixNot wrote:
New oddity. It seems that you've designed the rating arrows to vanish once you've rated a post, but if you reply to a thread, or come back to a thread, or refresh the thread, the arrows return. And as far as I can tell, I'm able to rate a post more than once because of it.

At least that's what it looks like. Either that, or the scores are taking their sweet time to reload, and when I click the arrow it just refreshes it to what it's suposed to be.


Trying out checking if you can rate before showing the form, but there are many layers of caching involved. Right now, it's working in that it removes the buttons, but they should stay removed.

But I'm tired and I'm going to bed, will fix later.
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#76 Jun 29 2007 at 10:58 PM Rating: Excellent
This is the normal time of the night for me when the forum starts acting wonky, so I figure it's just cacheing strangeness. Go sleep, we'll try to not burn the forums down while you're away.




keyword, try. Smiley: sly

Edited, Jun 29th 2007 11:58pm by NixNot
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