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#202 May 03 2006 at 8:31 PM Rating: Decent

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Allakhazam Defender of Justice wrote:

I can't talk about the company that bought us because that information is still confidential, and until they release that confidentiality the subject is off limits.

RPG Holdings?

Isn't that a parent company created by IGE for the explicit purpose of buying out MMO fansites?

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#203 May 03 2006 at 8:33 PM Rating: Decent

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If this link is true, then everything that Alla is saying is false.

Question: Allakhazam, do you support or deny the validity of this news story?

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#204 May 03 2006 at 8:33 PM Rating: Good

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I will post it again. I will post it as many times as it takes to get answered. This is what everything comes down to.

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Allakhazam, answer me one question, straight up. If I keep my premium membership, and keep paying you money, will it in any way help support IGE or any other RMT group?

What I mean is this. Will any profits from your division support or prop up the division supporting RMT. Will any penny I give you be, in any way whatsoever, used to support the growing business of companies like IGE. Can you give me a 100% guarantee that my dollar will not support these scum that prey on the players of these games. Can you say to me, without reservation, that I will not be doing anything to support their business.

I will tell you bluntly, if you cannot guarantee me this, my premium membership will be cancelled. The reason I make this site my home is its strong anti-RMT stance, like many other posters. If you have even a slight doubt in your mind about this, let me know, so I can ensure my dollars are not supporting that.

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#205 May 03 2006 at 8:34 PM Rating: Good

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http://www.corpnews.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1790&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

some details on rpg holdings.

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#206 May 03 2006 at 8:36 PM Rating: Good

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This sucks Smiley: glare

Now what?

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#207 May 03 2006 at 8:38 PM Rating: Decent

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The profits from Zam.com that are not rolled directly back into Zam.com will go to the investors who own the parent company. The same goes for the profits from all the other companies they hold. From what I can tell, IGE is a very profitable company, so I don't see why any money from Zam.com will end up being spent at IGE. But it will certainly end up in the pockets of the investors who bought both companies. That's just economics.

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#208 May 03 2006 at 8:40 PM Rating: Decent

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Completely not being a band-wagon'er here, I truly am upset and I can NOT support a company which owns IGE.

Auto-renew OFF.

P.S. Bhodi I'm using that avatar.

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#209 May 03 2006 at 8:42 PM Rating: Excellent

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Allakhazam Defender of Justice wrote:

The profits from Zam.com that are not rolled directly back into Zam.com will go to the investors who own the parent company. The same goes for the profits from all the other companies they hold. From what I can tell, IGE is a very profitable company, so I don't see why any money from Zam.com will end up being spent at IGE. But it will certainly end up in the pockets of the investors who bought both companies. That's just economics.

You know for a bloody fact that IGE wouldn't have joined them, as you, yourself, wouldn't have as well, if it weren't helping their pockets in some way.

Even though you're getting more money to finance this site, make it better, not to line your pockets, you still are in it for the money.

Oh, and Allakhazam is being selective with the questions he answers, weak-sause. Smiley: frown

~Blix

Edited, Wed May 3 22:18:39 2006 by TheBlix

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#210 May 03 2006 at 8:43 PM Rating: Good

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Nice find MorvenDee

See also the post with the blurred image at the following link:

http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=6803.msg182816#msg182816

What else? IGE is an entity based in Hong Kong that pulls clean, untraceable millions out of nothingness. Whee.

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#211 May 03 2006 at 8:45 PM Rating: Excellent

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Allakhazam Defender of Justice wrote:

The profits from Zam.com that are not rolled directly back into Zam.com will go to the investors who own the parent company. The same goes for the profits from all the other companies they hold. From what I can tell, IGE is a very profitable company, so I don't see why any money from Zam.com will end up being spent at IGE. But it will certainly end up in the pockets of the investors who bought both companies. That's just economics.

So what it boils down to is this: If I maintain my premium status, helping zam.com be profitable, that is helping the parent company gain new investors. These investors care nothing about gaming, they only care about increasing their wealth, which I have no complaint in and of itself. What I have a problem with is the thought I would be helping prop up this parent company.

You have answered my question, but I have to admit, the answer is not entirely to my liking.

Edit: I am trying not to make a knee-jerk reaction here Allakhazam, but I do have to say that I am deeply disappointed in this move. I am certain you were expecting a different response from the community over this merger, but all I can do is sigh and shake my head. In the barrage of posts accusing you of selling out, please keep in mind it is only because we all loved this site for one reason or another. We would not feel so vehemently about this news otherwise. The more I hear, the more I am coming to the conclusion that this site is no longer one I am interested in financially supporting.

Edited, Wed May 3 21:51:32 2006 by Sarlos

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#212 May 03 2006 at 8:46 PM Rating: Good

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I don't think the thottbot kiddies and RMT bastards will be nearly as cool as the old Allakhazam crew :(

/mourn

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#213 May 03 2006 at 8:52 PM Rating: Good

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Also, even if it doesn't go to IGE, it goes to people who support IGE.

Mystery Company 
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Allakhazam~IGE

Do you want your name synonamous with IGE? Smiley: dubious

~Blix

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#214 May 03 2006 at 8:53 PM Rating: Decent

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hey i think i figured out how the speed is going to increase on the site... so many people are gonna be mad about this and are never going to come back we won't have 1000-2000 users on at one time to bog the entire site down!! thats how they are speeding it up...

also i think it's a ploy to see who is really wanting to pay money for a premium membership before they jack it up to god knows what....

IGE.... omg i'm not.... even.... gonna... go.... there...

lets just say i see ONE IGE AD.... i'm gone.

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#215 May 03 2006 at 8:54 PM Rating: Good

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I respectfully wish to delete my (free) account on this site. Is this possible, and if so, who do I need to talk to?

I would like my account and my saved character information (On the Final Fantasy XI part of the site) removed, please.

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#216 May 03 2006 at 8:55 PM Rating: Good

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TheBlix wrote:

Also, even if it doesn't go to IGE, it goes to people who support IGE.

Mystery Company 
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Allakhazam~IGE

Do you want your name synonamous with IGE? Smiley: dubious

~Blix

Actually, to tell you the truth, this is not what bothers me. What bothers me is it makes me feel the 'Mystery Company' has a casual disrespect for us gamers. All the investors care about is earning a return on their investment, and can you blame them? They have no clue how we percieve IGE, nor should the care.

What I do not like is the feeling that a site I trust is coming under the control of those who are not looking out for gamers' best interests. This has historically been a strong point of this site, but it is becoming doubtful wether this trend will continue.

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#217 May 03 2006 at 8:56 PM Rating: Decent

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Way to sell out Alla. I've got a few months left on my premium, and it's not getting renewed. ***** you and the horse you rode in on. Taking money from the IGE scum. Better to let the site die than ally it with those bastards.

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#218 May 03 2006 at 8:56 PM Rating: Good

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Actually, to tell you the truth, this is not what bothers me. What bothers me is it makes me feel the 'Mystery Company' has a casual disrespect for us gamers. All the investors care about is earning a return on their investment, and can you blame them? They have no clue how we percieve IGE, nor should the care.

What I do not like is the feeling that a site I trust is coming under the control of those who are not looking out for gamers' best interests. This has historically been a strong point of this site, but it is becoming doubtful wether this trend will continue.

pretty sure the "mystery company" is IGE's leadership with a different name.

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#219 May 03 2006 at 8:58 PM Rating: Good

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Say its not so? Are we really going to have IGE's " BUY OUR GOLD " ad's blaring?

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#220 May 03 2006 at 8:58 PM Rating: Decent

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Sarlos, Defender of Justice wrote:

TheBlix wrote:

Also, even if it doesn't go to IGE, it goes to people who support IGE.

Mystery Company 
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Allakhazam~IGE

Do you want your name synonamous with IGE? Smiley: dubious

~Blix

Actually, to tell you the truth, this is not what bothers me. What bothers me is it makes me feel the 'Mystery Company' has a casual disrespect for us gamers. All the investors care about is earning a return on their investment, and can you blame them? They have no clue how we percieve IGE, nor should the care.

What I do not like is the feeling that a site I trust is coming under the control of those who are not looking out for gamers' best interests. This has historically been a strong point of this site, but it is becoming doubtful wether this trend will continue.

I agree with what bothers you, though what I mentioned bothers me, also. As proven by some posts made, it bothers others, too.

~Blix

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#221 May 03 2006 at 8:59 PM Rating: Good

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EGI?

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#222 May 03 2006 at 8:59 PM Rating: Decent

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For the people who still think someone bought IGE ... Allakhazam has been bought by a company created by IGE to own itself. Therefore Allakhazam now works for IGE and you are now reading an IGE website. Any other interpretation is spin.

The problem is not Allakhazam, but IGE. All he did was sell the website he built. But IGE could afford to buy Allakhazam because people buy gold/gil/plat, so if you've ever done that, this situation is YOUR FAULT. You created this monster with your cheating, and now IGE is using the money you gave them to buy Allakhazam.

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#223 May 03 2006 at 9:00 PM Rating: Decent

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gbaji wrote:

What I find really interesting is the number of posts saying (or threatening depending on how you look at it) that it's the posters and their knowledge, submissions, and guides that make this site work. Um... You're right. And that's not going to change either. Well. Unless you get into a tizzy, pick up your toys, and leave. Then this site will turn into another generic site with substandard information designed to get players hooked and sell them plat/gil/whatever.

Take a second people. Breathe. Breathe some more. Look at the big picture. This site has always been about the people who post and contribute to it. That's *why* it's a success. You make it so. You all have the voice here as well. You post the guides. You post the information. You post in the forums. You ultimately have the control over what those things say. You have the power to decide to condemn playing styles that you don't agree with. And all the corporate connections involved don't change that one bit. You have that power now. And you'll have that power in the future. Alla just puts a nifty format together for *us* to share information within. That's it. The content is ours. It always has. And it always will be.

If the content and site is all 'ours' (as a community) why the hell is Alla making all the money. I *was* considering a premium membership - and yes I know how corporations and business work - until this. You can say they are seperate but they aren't - IGE may not profit directly from it but the 'parent' company will thereby allowing IGE to continue.

On another note - I find it interesting that Alla cares about 'profit' off the WoW information but on the other hand says they want to make it the best place for INFORMATION

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#224 May 03 2006 at 9:00 PM Rating: Decent

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This is just my opinion, but if things are indeed like Allakhazam says and he retains control, he's not giving out anyones info,not selling gold on the site, than i honestly don't think it's all THAT bad.

It's certainly not as innocent as it was here, but I don't necissarily foresee this as the end of Allakhazam as we know it. However I can certainly see where everyones concerns are coming from as well. Hmm... I guess i don't really have an opinion yet with what little info we have so far. But I think we've been a bit hard on the site and it's administrators, and should wait and see.

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#225 May 03 2006 at 9:00 PM Rating: Decent

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If this is a good move for you and your family Alla, congratulations.

That's all that matters.

(and since my premium ran out about 3 months ago I can't ***** a bit)

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#226 May 03 2006 at 9:01 PM Rating: Decent

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Actually, to tell you the truth, this is not what bothers me. What bothers me is it makes me feel the 'Mystery Company' has a casual disrespect for us gamers. All the investors care about is earning a return on their investment, and can you blame them? They have no clue how we percieve IGE, nor should the care.

What I do not like is the feeling that a site I trust is coming under the control of those who are not looking out for gamers' best interests. This has historically been a strong point of this site, but it is becoming doubtful wether this trend will continue.

pretty sure the "mystery company" is IGE's leadership with a different name.

Plausible, but no proof yet, though I believe it might be. I'm going to give Alla the benefit of the doubt, for now.

~Blix

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