At least this gives the pissers and whiners here something reasonable to whine about than */nin.
Autorenew is off, what a shame.
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#953
May 08 2006 at 12:06 PM
24 posts
My point was that Alla and IGE have been in bed together for almost seven months and nobody ******* until it was announced. Maybe we could give the poor guy a break.
#954
May 08 2006 at 1:28 PM
31 posts
For me its not about the money .. its about who you partnered with .. I think you should have called the guys who made Gator err I mean Claria.
You should have just cut and run .. enjoyed the payoff, wait for the non complete and start over.
You should have just cut and run .. enjoyed the payoff, wait for the non complete and start over.
#955
May 08 2006 at 1:54 PM
I've been a premium member of Alla for quite some time. I use it for both EQ and WoW. I am highly disappointed in this transaction. I just found out about this today. I do not support gold/plat buyers/sellers in any way. I don't know if this has been posted because 20 pages were quite a few to skim through but here is a little bit more of a detailed description of the ownership http://wow.azzor.com/445/truth_about_IGE.php . After reading about what IGE and MSS have done, I have no desire to be associated with them, even indirectly.
It saddens me to say, my account was set to renew on 5/27, autorenew is now off.
Edited, Mon May 8 15:02:51 2006 by spookychik
It saddens me to say, my account was set to renew on 5/27, autorenew is now off.
Edited, Mon May 8 15:02:51 2006 by spookychik
#956
May 08 2006 at 3:02 PM
Please answer my question Allakhazam.
#957
May 08 2006 at 7:07 PM
8 posts
fnaar wrote:
I'm sorry if this has been posted before, but after reading only the first few posts I was so incensed that I went straight to Google, and after a few minutes of research, discovered the following - THEY ARE ALL IN IT TOGETHER!
FACT 1. Allah is the head of every major Muslim terrorist network, it's like they all practically worship the guy. I found references to him on the Al-Jazeera site and he was quoted by Al-Zarqawi on CNN just the other night (funny how they all start with AL huh?). This guy knew about 9/11, 7/7, and remember, remember the 5th of November, HE KNEW ABOUT THAT TOO (omniscient anyone!!).
FACT 2. Illia sounds Russian. He probably made the money to start this site by smuggling in Soviet hookers. All those poor young girls down on their knees, taking donations for Illia's Bestiary..... Disgusting.
FACT 3. Yantis lives in Hong Kong (which is close to China)!!! He is possibly responsible for ALL the sweatshops filled with Chinese Gil/Gold/Plat/Pixel sellers and farmers. Remember folks, buying gold with real money is CHEATING. It's evil. It's ruining "My World" I only come to this web-site because it's full of spoilers, hints, maps, and walkthroughs. I don't want to see adverts for dirty IGE on my beloved pages. I want to "earn" the cash by myself.
So we have the Arabs, the Chinese, and probably the Russians involved in this. It's all a plot against the great multi-national, globalisation(ing), capatilist values of America. They're only in it for your money people.
Who woulda thunk it.
FACT 1. Allah is the head of every major Muslim terrorist network, it's like they all practically worship the guy. I found references to him on the Al-Jazeera site and he was quoted by Al-Zarqawi on CNN just the other night (funny how they all start with AL huh?). This guy knew about 9/11, 7/7, and remember, remember the 5th of November, HE KNEW ABOUT THAT TOO (omniscient anyone!!).
FACT 2. Illia sounds Russian. He probably made the money to start this site by smuggling in Soviet hookers. All those poor young girls down on their knees, taking donations for Illia's Bestiary..... Disgusting.
FACT 3. Yantis lives in Hong Kong (which is close to China)!!! He is possibly responsible for ALL the sweatshops filled with Chinese Gil/Gold/Plat/Pixel sellers and farmers. Remember folks, buying gold with real money is CHEATING. It's evil. It's ruining "My World" I only come to this web-site because it's full of spoilers, hints, maps, and walkthroughs. I don't want to see adverts for dirty IGE on my beloved pages. I want to "earn" the cash by myself.
So we have the Arabs, the Chinese, and probably the Russians involved in this. It's all a plot against the great multi-national, globalisation(ing), capatilist values of America. They're only in it for your money people.
Who woulda thunk it.
LOL Out of all these posts I do believe I like this one the best!
#958
May 08 2006 at 10:50 PM
Spre, Eater of Souls wrote:
Quote:
players who don't see a dime of the Premium Member fees.
Pemium ISNT for people who submit information. you submit information freely O_O.
I see forums as a meeting place, like a park.
Some people donate to keep parks clean.
Other people endorse laws, that heavily fine people that litter the park.
I'm of the latter group. I want a clean park, but I'm responcible enough not to make a mess in the first place. I think the people who make the messes should clean them up, and enforcing fines is the way to ensure that if they don't clean up, they at least pay for it. I suppose there isn't a way to equivicate that on an online forum, but every other forum out there is free, so I'm not paying for this one either.
Internet forums are a dime a dozen, and most of them are free. I'm not going to pay for a seat on the grass in this park, nor any other.
The only thing valuable here is the community, and if anyone deserves compensation for the content available on this site it's the people who posted it. The site by itself is just one out a million forums; nothing special.
#959
May 09 2006 at 12:48 AM
Scholar
37 posts
Well far from increasing the "speed issuses", I now find not only is the site slower than ever but that I have to reload pages several times before they show the information.
While not caring really one way or another about the "money making" businesses, I do care about the standard of a site that I pay money to use.
I won't be renewing my premium subscription.
While not caring really one way or another about the "money making" businesses, I do care about the standard of a site that I pay money to use.
I won't be renewing my premium subscription.
#960
May 09 2006 at 5:03 AM
I've also been experiencing problems loading since the announcement. Nothing works until I've hit F5 at least 4 times. On a side note I found this post and thought it appropriate... Allakhazam wrote: Who owns whom? I'll stay around the site, I just thought I'd cross reference that for my own humor value.. Autorenew is off atm and will stay off unless I see changes in the recent loading problems. Thanks for all the useful info and not being very buggy before the switch...
Quote:
I own this site and thus I own you. Har, har, har, har, har.
#961
May 09 2006 at 8:08 AM
I'm going to miss this site. I'm not going to renew my premium account, I'm sad to say.
#962
May 09 2006 at 9:02 AM
Allah: If you just said to us: I'm sorry, the money and perks were too good to pass up, I couldn't resist, taken the money, and run off to a beach somewhere, I'd have forgiven you, money is one hell of a lure, but, from a bastion of Anti-RMT sentiment, to corporate doublespeak.
You said that you would never become associated with IGE, you are now, thus, you have had previous statements become lies, by your own choices and actions.
Why should we believe your words now that there will be no RMT input, and that the site won't dramatically change? The same may occur, and it may not even be your choice this time, as you've led us to believe with the 'continued profitibility' statement.
I've never had a premium account, so, my opinion doesn't count for much, but, any helpful information that might draw anyone to the site, I wish I had not posted now, and will skewer off what I can find and edit. I hope you do lost profitibility, and then, control over your sites, so you'll have your first instint proven right: "GETTING INTO BED WITH IGE IS WRONG", and feel horrible for ever disobeying that. ~Selindrile
You said that you would never become associated with IGE, you are now, thus, you have had previous statements become lies, by your own choices and actions.
Why should we believe your words now that there will be no RMT input, and that the site won't dramatically change? The same may occur, and it may not even be your choice this time, as you've led us to believe with the 'continued profitibility' statement.
I've never had a premium account, so, my opinion doesn't count for much, but, any helpful information that might draw anyone to the site, I wish I had not posted now, and will skewer off what I can find and edit. I hope you do lost profitibility, and then, control over your sites, so you'll have your first instint proven right: "GETTING INTO BED WITH IGE IS WRONG", and feel horrible for ever disobeying that. ~Selindrile
#963
May 09 2006 at 10:05 AM
14 posts
the true story be told http://wow.azzor.com/445/truth_about_IGE.php
#964
May 09 2006 at 2:23 PM
24 posts
Well sad to see the end of an era of trust and confidence Alla, I was a dedicated and loyal user who has paid to help support you.
I do thou want to say b4 i stop using this site forever; That i give you props for admitting for the buyout and for not deleting negative posts, put that does not redeem yourself.
Enjoy the hatred of the real gamers out there and hope they never know who you really are cause there might be some fanatic out there that might want you dead. Thanks for the good years.
out 4ever
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your once loyal user.
I do thou want to say b4 i stop using this site forever; That i give you props for admitting for the buyout and for not deleting negative posts, put that does not redeem yourself.
Enjoy the hatred of the real gamers out there and hope they never know who you really are cause there might be some fanatic out there that might want you dead. Thanks for the good years.
out 4ever
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your once loyal user.
#965
May 09 2006 at 4:04 PM
Why do people keep linking azzor? Who or what the **** is azzor?
#966
May 09 2006 at 4:13 PM
ALLAKHAZAM ANSWER MY ONE QUESTION PLEASE IT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I ASKED.
#967
May 09 2006 at 5:12 PM
13 posts
Quote:
Quote:
Allakhazam wrote:
Before agreeing to anything like this, I wanted to make sure that there would be no interaction between those divisions and that I would have complete control over the new network
Before agreeing to anything like this, I wanted to make sure that there would be no interaction between those divisions and that I would have complete control over the new network
Interaction or no, that is like me saying I hate Ford! and yet go and buy a Jaguar. Ford owns Jaguar now, and because of that, there is a noticable Ford influence on Jaguar products. The same will end up here. They will get you nice and cozy, and through the convienent loopholes you fail to see in the contract (And their Lawyers made sure they would be there), IGE's influence will be felt here as well.
Even if the deal doesnt go sour in the end, I believe the perception is whats gonna hurt you in the end. You will be tied to the hip of a gillseller and you will loose respect. By reading the posts on this, I think the level of respect has already dropped. More importantly, the most vocal respondersare those who have given you money for accounts...you know, the ones you should really listen to?
Ah well, what do I know. Your wallet just got a bit fatter, so {Congratulations!}. Hope it lasts when IGE notices that your account base has dwindled to nothing, and that keeping you attached to them is costing them money therefore shutting you down.
It's more like saying that Ford polluted the river that I live near so now I hate them, but Jag is a different part of the company so it's OK if I buy one.
IGE has polluted many games but now using Alla is OK?
#968
May 09 2006 at 6:29 PM
I'd like to end all this with a quote and two links. Not links to that Azzor site, but to Allakhazam's own golden words on VanguardSOH.com and later reposted on WarCry.com:
Original post link.
WarCry link.
Priceless.
Edited, Tue May 9 19:30:19 2006 by Mazra
Allakhazam wrote:
I can assure you that Allakhazam.com never has had and never will have any association with IGE. No amount of money will change that. We are players ourselves and disagree with everything they stand for. I've turned down their advances so many times in so many ways over the years that I think they have finally give up on us.
So I can assure you there will be at least on major Vanguard site that will have nothing to do with IGE or any other similar company.
So I can assure you there will be at least on major Vanguard site that will have nothing to do with IGE or any other similar company.
Original post link.
WarCry link.
Priceless.
Edited, Tue May 9 19:30:19 2006 by Mazra
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
#969
May 09 2006 at 9:19 PM
Allakhazam wrote:
I can assure you that Allakhazam.com never has had and never will have any association with IGE. No amount of money will change that. We are players ourselves and disagree with everything they stand for. I've turned down their advances so many times in so many ways over the years that I think they have finally give up on us.
So I can assure you there will be at least on major Vanguard site that will have nothing to do with IGE or any other similar company.
So I can assure you there will be at least on major Vanguard site that will have nothing to do with IGE or any other similar company.
Who was 'we' referring to in that statement? Apparently it wasn't your co-owner of Allakhazam.com LLC:
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=3;mid=1146772898125706008;num=61;page=1
Quote:
I'm going to come out of the closet here, and admit that I don't give a hoot about Real Money Trading in video games. I see both sides of the argument, and while its extremely unlikely that I'd ever spend my beer money on virtual stuff; that doesn't make me want to stop other people from doing it.
I agree that in some games, the perception is that RMT has harmed the game in some way. In most of these cases, I would argue that the game is broken and RMT has risen as a fix, but is by no means the cause of the issue.
...
These days, I freely admit I no longer have the time or desire to put in the time that I did when I ran an EQ raiding guild. If there is a hurdle in a game which requires time as the currency to bypass, I'd give real thought to trading money for time.
...
Anyhoo, I understand that ffxi players are upset. I think you guys should place the blame (for rmt "hurting
the game") where it truly lies: on the game maker.
I agree that in some games, the perception is that RMT has harmed the game in some way. In most of these cases, I would argue that the game is broken and RMT has risen as a fix, but is by no means the cause of the issue.
...
These days, I freely admit I no longer have the time or desire to put in the time that I did when I ran an EQ raiding guild. If there is a hurdle in a game which requires time as the currency to bypass, I'd give real thought to trading money for time.
...
Anyhoo, I understand that ffxi players are upset. I think you guys should place the blame (for rmt "hurting
the game") where it truly lies: on the game maker.
Edited, Tue May 9 22:20:55 2006 by SEforPrez
#970
May 10 2006 at 4:03 AM
Ditto my feelings with everyone disappointed by your decision.
I want nothing to do with any company (or affiliated company) that does RMT of in-game currency/items/accounts. It ruins the economy of every MMO I've played since the original EQ. It is clearly a violation of the EULA and I hope all farmers get caught, banned, and the CD key they used for the game software revoked. I don't care how you wanna try and slice it, if I felt strongly enough about something a parent company was doing I would boycott every product down the line of that family tree. So I am. The bottom line is my premium fee filters back to them and I don't want 1 cent of my money going there. Profit for you is profit for them. So my premium service from this site ends here.
Also, say what you will about my info being safe. I will not believe it. You made your sell-out deal with the devil, but I won't risk getting burned because of it. As for your now "parent" companies privacy policy, I'll list it below for you. I realize it says IGE but it was the same for every RPG Holdings LLC and Content Holdings LLC website I could find.
Sounds like adware to me and why do you think they are buying up all these websites? Do you think it's NOT to promote there RMT for in-game currency/items/accounts?
Also considering the shady past of Brock Pierce and his associates, Marc Collins-Rector and Chad M. Shackley, You might wanna google search "RPG Holdings LLC" and see what other websites they own beside the gaming ones. (If you come across the one with Rosepetal take a good look at her face and Chad M. Shackleys from the link off this webiste.
http://wow.azzor.com/445/truth_about_IGE.php
I could be wrong but I'd swear it's the same person)
Now for the Privacy policy:
Privacy
IGE, hereafter the Company, agrees not to disclose to anyone the terms, conditions, subject matter, or identity of the parties involved in any paid transaction to any other party unless required to do so by law. The Company collects personally identifiable information, such as your e-mail address, name, home or work address or telephone number. The Company also collects anonymous demographic information that is not unique to you, such as your ZIP code, age, gender, preferences, interests and favorites.
Please keep in mind that if you directly disclose personally identifiable information or personally sensitive data through the Company's Chats, Communities, or other public online forums, this information may be collected and used by others. The Company encourages you to review the privacy statements of websites you choose to link to from the Company so that you can understand how those websites collect, use and share your information. The Company is not responsible for the privacy statements or other content on websites outside of the Company's websites.
There is also information about your computer hardware and software that is automatically collected by the Company. This information can include: your IP address, browser type, domain names, access times and referring website addresses. This information is used by the Company for the operation of the service, to maintain quality of the service, and to provide general statistics regarding use of the Company's websites.
The Company's websites use your personal information to operate and deliver the services you have requested. The Company's websites also use your personally identifiable information to inform you of other products or services available from the Company and its affiliates when requested through its mailing list. The Company may also contact you via surveys to conduct research about your opinion of current services or of potential new services that may be offered.
The Company does not sell, rent or lease its client lists to third parties. The Company may, from time to time, contact you on behalf of external business partners about a particular offering that may be of interest to you. In those cases, your unique personally identifiable information (e-mail, name, address, telephone number) is not transferred to the third party. In addition, the Company may share data with trusted partners to help us perform statistical analysis. All such third parties are prohibited from using your personal information except to provide these services to the Company, and they are required to maintain the confidentiality of your information.
The Company keeps track of the websites and pages our client's visit, in order to determine what websites and services are the most popular. This data is used to deliver customized content and advertising to clients whose behavior indicates that they are interested in a particular subject area.
The Company's websites will disclose your personal information, without notice, only if required to do so by law or in the good faith belief that such action is necessary to: (a) conform to the edicts of the law or comply with legal process served on the Company or the website; (b) protect and defend the rights or property of www.cannotlinkto, but not limited to this Company's websites; and, (c) act under exigent circumstances to protect the personal safety of users of the Company, its websites, or the public.
Edited, Wed May 10 05:12:16 2006 by norrathpipeline
I want nothing to do with any company (or affiliated company) that does RMT of in-game currency/items/accounts. It ruins the economy of every MMO I've played since the original EQ. It is clearly a violation of the EULA and I hope all farmers get caught, banned, and the CD key they used for the game software revoked. I don't care how you wanna try and slice it, if I felt strongly enough about something a parent company was doing I would boycott every product down the line of that family tree. So I am. The bottom line is my premium fee filters back to them and I don't want 1 cent of my money going there. Profit for you is profit for them. So my premium service from this site ends here.
Also, say what you will about my info being safe. I will not believe it. You made your sell-out deal with the devil, but I won't risk getting burned because of it. As for your now "parent" companies privacy policy, I'll list it below for you. I realize it says IGE but it was the same for every RPG Holdings LLC and Content Holdings LLC website I could find.
Sounds like adware to me and why do you think they are buying up all these websites? Do you think it's NOT to promote there RMT for in-game currency/items/accounts?
Also considering the shady past of Brock Pierce and his associates, Marc Collins-Rector and Chad M. Shackley, You might wanna google search "RPG Holdings LLC" and see what other websites they own beside the gaming ones. (If you come across the one with Rosepetal take a good look at her face and Chad M. Shackleys from the link off this webiste.
http://wow.azzor.com/445/truth_about_IGE.php
I could be wrong but I'd swear it's the same person)
Now for the Privacy policy:
Privacy
IGE, hereafter the Company, agrees not to disclose to anyone the terms, conditions, subject matter, or identity of the parties involved in any paid transaction to any other party unless required to do so by law. The Company collects personally identifiable information, such as your e-mail address, name, home or work address or telephone number. The Company also collects anonymous demographic information that is not unique to you, such as your ZIP code, age, gender, preferences, interests and favorites.
Please keep in mind that if you directly disclose personally identifiable information or personally sensitive data through the Company's Chats, Communities, or other public online forums, this information may be collected and used by others. The Company encourages you to review the privacy statements of websites you choose to link to from the Company so that you can understand how those websites collect, use and share your information. The Company is not responsible for the privacy statements or other content on websites outside of the Company's websites.
There is also information about your computer hardware and software that is automatically collected by the Company. This information can include: your IP address, browser type, domain names, access times and referring website addresses. This information is used by the Company for the operation of the service, to maintain quality of the service, and to provide general statistics regarding use of the Company's websites.
The Company's websites use your personal information to operate and deliver the services you have requested. The Company's websites also use your personally identifiable information to inform you of other products or services available from the Company and its affiliates when requested through its mailing list. The Company may also contact you via surveys to conduct research about your opinion of current services or of potential new services that may be offered.
The Company does not sell, rent or lease its client lists to third parties. The Company may, from time to time, contact you on behalf of external business partners about a particular offering that may be of interest to you. In those cases, your unique personally identifiable information (e-mail, name, address, telephone number) is not transferred to the third party. In addition, the Company may share data with trusted partners to help us perform statistical analysis. All such third parties are prohibited from using your personal information except to provide these services to the Company, and they are required to maintain the confidentiality of your information.
The Company keeps track of the websites and pages our client's visit, in order to determine what websites and services are the most popular. This data is used to deliver customized content and advertising to clients whose behavior indicates that they are interested in a particular subject area.
The Company's websites will disclose your personal information, without notice, only if required to do so by law or in the good faith belief that such action is necessary to: (a) conform to the edicts of the law or comply with legal process served on the Company or the website; (b) protect and defend the rights or property of www.cannotlinkto, but not limited to this Company's websites; and, (c) act under exigent circumstances to protect the personal safety of users of the Company, its websites, or the public.
Edited, Wed May 10 05:12:16 2006 by norrathpipeline
#971
May 10 2006 at 5:04 AM
Probably a coincidence, but I figured I'd say it anyway:
Shortly after Alla became IGE's bitch, I began to receive a bunch of spam emails.
I changed the email address I had posted on this site, and the spam email stopped.
As I said it may have been a coincidence, but the odds of that happening are slim. Alla's bullshitting you if he says he's going to keep your personal info safe.
Shortly after Alla became IGE's bitch, I began to receive a bunch of spam emails.
I changed the email address I had posted on this site, and the spam email stopped.
As I said it may have been a coincidence, but the odds of that happening are slim. Alla's bullshitting you if he says he's going to keep your personal info safe.
#972
May 10 2006 at 7:55 AM
Think about it this way.... how many hundreds of thousands of exp of your ffxi readers were lost to farmer mpks.
The money they make goes to company X, company X redirects OUR PAIN into buying you a bigger site.
I for one am leavin alla sorry been a fun ride.
The money they make goes to company X, company X redirects OUR PAIN into buying you a bigger site.
I for one am leavin alla sorry been a fun ride.
#973
May 10 2006 at 11:26 AM
ShyFox wrote:
Probably a coincidence, but I figured I'd say it anyway:
Shortly after Alla became IGE's bitch, I began to receive a bunch of spam emails.
I changed the email address I had posted on this site, and the spam email stopped.
As I said it may have been a coincidence, but the odds of that happening are slim. Alla's bullshitting you if he says he's going to keep your personal info safe.
Shortly after Alla became IGE's bitch, I began to receive a bunch of spam emails.
I changed the email address I had posted on this site, and the spam email stopped.
As I said it may have been a coincidence, but the odds of that happening are slim. Alla's bullshitting you if he says he's going to keep your personal info safe.
That's actually not how spam works. Once you're on a list to receive spam, your email address is traded and sold around to other spammers. Changing your address on here wouldn't stop the amount of spam you received, it wouldn't have an affect on that amount at all. For example, I've somehow landed on a Japanese spam list, because 95% of the spam I get to my gmail account is totally in Japanese. The amount of Japanese spam I get has been going up exponentially lately, and I suspect it's because whoever first got ahold of my address has been selling and trading it to other spammers. And many spammers have programs that randomly generate "likely" email addresses for the spammers to try sending email to. If the email goes through, the spammer knows it's a valid address and proceeds to add that account to their master list.
#974
May 10 2006 at 1:26 PM
All you "Disagree"ers are acting childish.
You post on KI, that has gilselling banners. Posting there supports RMT.
You talk about it in every post here. Thats promoting IGE. Guess what? You just supported it!
You should just shut up and deal with it, it's a fuc[Darkgoldenrod][/Darkgoldenrod]king VIDEO GAME forum, dont make a drama pool where it's not needed.
You post on KI, that has gilselling banners. Posting there supports RMT.
You talk about it in every post here. Thats promoting IGE. Guess what? You just supported it!
You should just shut up and deal with it, it's a fuc[Darkgoldenrod][/Darkgoldenrod]king VIDEO GAME forum, dont make a drama pool where it's not needed.
#975
May 10 2006 at 3:11 PM
Yeah but were real people omg! just because we play a game does not mean we cant go outside the game protest things inside the game. Allakhazam refues to answer my question or any one elses on here all you who think he's not sold out IGE need to wake the **** up! So much proof but some of you still believe well sorry but your wrong. I dont post on KI btw you making a huge statment that every one here posts on KI which is not true. the differents between KI and alla is alla said he would never sell out thats why he got alot of support from people now he sells out which is just wrong period the end.
Edited, Wed May 10 16:19:44 2006 by Deadlydoc
Edited, Wed May 10 16:19:44 2006 by Deadlydoc
#976
May 10 2006 at 3:24 PM
wow, my eye's bleed from reading that.
I am sure you have gone to KI to look something up. I'm very sure almost everyone has.
Who cares? If it honestly offends you that much stop posting and leave, i'm very sure half the people who use this site don't want to deal with ur bickering on the matter.
I am sure you have gone to KI to look something up. I'm very sure almost everyone has.
Who cares? If it honestly offends you that much stop posting and leave, i'm very sure half the people who use this site don't want to deal with ur bickering on the matter.
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