Alla,
I am sure this decission was difficult for you, and I know that you have had some long nights trying to make the best decission. I want you to know that you will have my full support, I just renewed for a year.
You have always supported me, and delivered the services you promise. Good Luck, and Congratulations!! I am confident that you will do an excellent job with the new network!
I am amazed at the self centered whinning that has gone on in this thread. Nothing like jumping right to conclussions, and giving a guy that has supported this community when no one else cared a fair chance. I see a lot of b-ching, but no real offers of assistance or monetary support! You want to opt out, go ahead. Loyalty like that would really makes me willing to overlook the best interests of my business, family, and staff for a bunch of ungrateful loosers.
The reality of life is that IGE is here to stay! Gamers and developers will have to accept the fact that when you popularized MMORPG's, you also created new business opportunity's. So make the best of the situation and play your games! You all have whinned about farmers and gold sellers for the three years I have been around this site, and you haven't accomplished a thing. Now you are trashing one of the few people and sites that supported gaming when it wasn't popular, instead of asking what could you do to help Alla keep the divisions seperate. The quickest way to force Alla to have to accept those ads and crap is to withdraw your finacial support!
Why not ask yourself if the complaints about servers, slow periods, and other demands I made played a factor in the merger!
Hang tough, Alla!!
Edited, Thu May 4 12:25:08 2006 by Redyne
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#453
May 04 2006 at 9:03 AM
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I realize some people are not going to be happy with this, but the fact is that we are now able to do things we just were never able to do before. This gives us the financial backing and stability to really do a great deal for everyone.
So you don't agree with the selling of currency for MMO games, but you'll happily take the money that the selling of that currency generates?
"I don't like drugs, but the drug sellers are giving me a lot of money to make some neat stuff for you!"
At this point, I just have to hope that Vanaguide.com (the only FFXI resource I've seen that isn't affiliated with IGE, so far as I can see) develops into a great resource.
#454
May 04 2006 at 9:15 AM
Redyne, your fluffy pink pacifistic ideas might seem sane in Carebear World, but reality is that what IGE is doing is corruptive and even against the Terms of Service you agree on when you install the game. They're breaking the rules of the game. By allowing this merge Allakhazam is indirectly saying that what IGE is doing is no biggie. Which is against everything this site and Allakhazam himself has ever stood for.
I believe that's why people are complaining.
Ps. Slow servers > selling your soul to the devil. At least that's how I see it.
I believe that's why people are complaining.
Ps. Slow servers > selling your soul to the devil. At least that's how I see it.
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
#455
May 04 2006 at 9:16 AM
Redyne Sage wrote:
The reality of life is that IGE is here to stay! Gamers and developers will have to accept the fact that when you popularized MMORPG's, you also created new business opportunity's. So make the best of the situation and play your games! You all have whinned about farmers and gold sellers for the three years I have been around this site, and you haven't accomplished a thing. Now you are trashing one of the few people and sites that supported gaming when it wasn't popular, instead of asking what could you do to help Alla keep the divisions seperate. The quickest way to force Alla to have to accept those ads and crap is to withdraw your finacial support!
The reality of life is that we do not have to make it easy or pleasant for them (IGE and it's subsidiaries) to stay.
I came here because I wanted to discuss the game I played, not support them (IGE and it's subsidiaries).
So I'll do what I've been doing up until now forwebsites that promote them (IGE and it's subsidiaries), use their facilities but never contribute. Never click any of their ads or links and so on.
#456
May 04 2006 at 9:20 AM
I want every single--and I mean, EVERY SINGLE, post that I made removed from this web site. Every piece of useful information, every quest walkthrough, every NM pop location, etc. I do NOT want information that I wrote up being used to fund IGE.
Do NOT post in Alla or its new version giving them ANY information unless you want it to profit gil sellers.
Do NOT post in Alla or its new version giving them ANY information unless you want it to profit gil sellers.
#457
May 04 2006 at 9:24 AM
We need a congressional hearing on this!
IGE making obscene profits.... premium costs skyrocketing.... price-gouging at the Login screen.... illegal chinese goldsellers sneaking in....
ACROSS THE MAJOR FORUMS OF ALLAKHAZAM, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS WILL POST IN PROTEST!!! AVATARS WILL BE BURNED IN THE THREADS!!! A RADICAL ZAMIST FUNDAMENTALIST MOVEMENT WILL INITIATE A COUP D'ÉTAT AND THE INTERWEBZ ITSELF WILL FALL!
IGE making obscene profits.... premium costs skyrocketing.... price-gouging at the Login screen.... illegal chinese goldsellers sneaking in....
ACROSS THE MAJOR FORUMS OF ALLAKHAZAM, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS WILL POST IN PROTEST!!! AVATARS WILL BE BURNED IN THE THREADS!!! A RADICAL ZAMIST FUNDAMENTALIST MOVEMENT WILL INITIATE A COUP D'ÉTAT AND THE INTERWEBZ ITSELF WILL FALL!
#458
May 04 2006 at 9:27 AM
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Redyne, your fluffy pink pacifistic ideas might seem sane in Carebear World,
LOL if you knew anything about my history you would know I don't live in a carebear world!
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but reality is that what IGE is doing is corruptive and even against the Terms of Service you agree on when you install the game. They're breaking the rules of the game. By allowing this merge Allakhazam is indirectly saying that what IGE is doing is no biggie. Which is against everything this site and Allakhazam himself has ever stood for.
I believe that's why people are complaining.
I believe that's why people are complaining.
It may be against the TOS, and I don't support the practice, but you sure don't see many of the gaming companies aggresively pursuing these issues.
Quote:
Ps. Slow servers > selling your soul to the devil. At least that's how I see it.
Who do you think has been complainning about the slow servers, and site limitations? You can't have it both ways, servers and staff require financial resources!
#459
May 04 2006 at 9:30 AM
Premium Auto-Renew=X
I'll still post here (Firefox Adblock FTW) but you'll not see another cent from me.
I'll still post here (Firefox Adblock FTW) but you'll not see another cent from me.
#460
May 04 2006 at 9:31 AM
Some thing i dont under stand is why!!!! if you wanted to make this site better why go to owners of IGE for help. you should have asked your fans you should have had aleast the diginity to tell us before you did this. now your nothing more then a name and a sellout website you and you alone did this to your self.
#461
May 04 2006 at 9:34 AM
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Who do you think has been complainning about the slow servers, and site limitations? You can't have it both ways, servers and staff require financial resources!
But why go back on your word and sell out why not ask us before asking them they should have gave us that option not all of us are poor joes some of us actually have the money to donate to a cause.
#462
May 04 2006 at 9:34 AM
Levish the Fussy wrote:
So I'll do what I've been doing up until now forwebsites that promote them (IGE and it's subsidiaries), use their facilities but never contribute. Never click any of their ads or links and so on.
We do not know who aquired this site and the other sites, like Thottbott, that IGE controlled. It has become accepted wisdom that a shadow company, created by IGE, to purchase IGE, is the entity that aquired Allakhazam.
After sleeping on it, I have personally come to the conclusion that this conspiracy theory is too far fetched. I may be proved wrong once the details become known, and if so, I will say goodbye to this site. For now, however, I feel the best thing to do is watch and wait.
I have to take Allakhazam at his word, what other choice do I have? He has been trustworthy in the past, and I am unable to believe he would allow this website, his website, to be corrupted by an external influence.
My biggest question right now is this: What guarantees do you have that IGE will, in fact, allow all its presence to be removed from Thottbott and other websites?
Edit: And not just have their presence removed, but make no attempts in the future to advertise on the new zam.com network?
Edited, Thu May 4 10:49:09 2006 by Sarlos
#463
May 04 2006 at 9:45 AM
Well, after sleeping on it, I pretty much echo DSD. I'll say it shorter though...
Alla, congratulations on the business aspect. I know you have a wife and child so better to them and better to your employees and their families as well. I've enjoyed the past six years here and your hands-on style and willingness to be a down to earth guy played a major role in that. Even at three bucks a month, I owe you for years of information and entertainment and generally putting up with us. Personally, I think you should take some of that corporate cash and put it towards a goodwill liason mission to Boston
Your stance on plat/gold/gil sales over the years has been consistant and earnest. Which, I imagine, is part of why it's so difficult to hear about this deal now after you lasted so long. But I'll give you credit where it's due that you did last this long when other forums and sites were cashing in on the easy money. I admit I'm disappointed to hear about this deal, but I'm not willing to demonize you for it.
I'll stick around for the time being because, let's face it, this place has been a home for the last half-decade and I'm not so easily displaced. I have four months left on my subscription so I'll have time to decide for myself if the climate is shifting. I firmly believe that you believe that it won't but the reality of the situation will prove itself for better or ill.
Good luck to you and the rest of your staff.
Alla, congratulations on the business aspect. I know you have a wife and child so better to them and better to your employees and their families as well. I've enjoyed the past six years here and your hands-on style and willingness to be a down to earth guy played a major role in that. Even at three bucks a month, I owe you for years of information and entertainment and generally putting up with us. Personally, I think you should take some of that corporate cash and put it towards a goodwill liason mission to Boston
Your stance on plat/gold/gil sales over the years has been consistant and earnest. Which, I imagine, is part of why it's so difficult to hear about this deal now after you lasted so long. But I'll give you credit where it's due that you did last this long when other forums and sites were cashing in on the easy money. I admit I'm disappointed to hear about this deal, but I'm not willing to demonize you for it.
I'll stick around for the time being because, let's face it, this place has been a home for the last half-decade and I'm not so easily displaced. I have four months left on my subscription so I'll have time to decide for myself if the climate is shifting. I firmly believe that you believe that it won't but the reality of the situation will prove itself for better or ill.
Good luck to you and the rest of your staff.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#464
May 04 2006 at 9:48 AM
I never paid for premium, although I admit I thought about it.
I was unimpressised by the service it provided during the free premium week, and now the "support the website" arguments are also thrown out the window.
I am a forum person; I go where the people are. If all these people are leaving and the Allakhazam.com community is dead, then I will leave. Your average user does not care that there are gil seller banner ads. Gil seller banner ads are at many of the forums I visit, and overtime you get used to seeing them. A large company buying Allakhazam.com was destined to happen eventually. To be honest I was surprized it lasted this long. You can not stop big business.
To be honest, I never even know a person named "Allakhazam" owned this website until a few hours ago.
Now for some jokes.
Man, I could make a killing if I sold Pitchforks, Haystacks, and Torches for some Gil.
Allakhazam plays at the next level.
I was unimpressised by the service it provided during the free premium week, and now the "support the website" arguments are also thrown out the window.
I am a forum person; I go where the people are. If all these people are leaving and the Allakhazam.com community is dead, then I will leave. Your average user does not care that there are gil seller banner ads. Gil seller banner ads are at many of the forums I visit, and overtime you get used to seeing them. A large company buying Allakhazam.com was destined to happen eventually. To be honest I was surprized it lasted this long. You can not stop big business.
To be honest, I never even know a person named "Allakhazam" owned this website until a few hours ago.
Now for some jokes.
Man, I could make a killing if I sold Pitchforks, Haystacks, and Torches for some Gil.
Allakhazam plays at the next level.
#465
May 04 2006 at 9:50 AM
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It may be against the TOS, and I don't support the practice, but you sure don't see many of the gaming companies aggresively pursuing these issues.
The billions of gil pulled off the servers nd the hundreds of accoutns banned over christmas was probably one of the most aggresive actions Ive seen from a MMO company.
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Personally, I will be holding off on judgement until the full details of the deal are made publicly available. The truth is we do not know yet who purchased who. All we have to go on is an article that is filled with factual holes and misrepresentations.
We do not know who aquired this site and the other sites, like Thottbott, that IGE controlled. It has become accepted wisdom that a shadow company, created by IGE, to purchase IGE, is the entity that aquired Allakhazam.
We do not know who aquired this site and the other sites, like Thottbott, that IGE controlled. It has become accepted wisdom that a shadow company, created by IGE, to purchase IGE, is the entity that aquired Allakhazam.
The person who authored the article as already aknowledged that IGE is under the same umbrella correct?
I am sorry but I am disappointed by this move. In a world of online information for my game just about every site has banner adds or pop ups to buy Gil. Alla has always stood out from the rest and aggressively resisted supporting Gil buying sites or the practice of RMTing on their forums. (FFXI player, so I will refer to Gil) I have to walk out the door and cannot post more of what to say at the momement but right now I stand at a thumbs down for this move.
#466
May 04 2006 at 9:51 AM
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OGaming.com is poised for dramatic growth over the next year as its owners, RPG Holdings, LLC, an affiliated company of IGE, is investing a substantial amount of capital in the network.
From:
http://pc.gamezone.com/news/02_21_05_11_15AM.htm
That illustrates the connection between the organizations somewhat.
#467
May 04 2006 at 9:54 AM
Brodrik wrote:
Quote:
OGaming.com is poised for dramatic growth over the next year as its owners, RPG Holdings, LLC, an affiliated company of IGE, is investing a substantial amount of capital in the network.
From:
http://pc.gamezone.com/news/02_21_05_11_15AM.htm
That illustrates the connection between the organizations somewhat.
Like I said, until the official press release, all we can do is conjecture. I am simply advising caution against knee-jerk reactions. I advocate an atitude of cautious optimism. Hope for the best, but be prepared for the worst.
In my case, should the worst happen, I will cancel my premium and browse this site with adblock on. Should the best happen, I will be further encouraged to stick with Allakhazam and support him as he tries to grow this website and the new gaming network.
#468
May 04 2006 at 10:02 AM
An FFXI Subscription: $12.95
Buying allakhazam.com: $50,000
Having a huge satisfied community: priceless
You just sold "priceless" for 50k. Way to go.
(the value "$50,000" was imaginary.)
Buying allakhazam.com: $50,000
Having a huge satisfied community: priceless
You just sold "priceless" for 50k. Way to go.
(the value "$50,000" was imaginary.)
#469
May 04 2006 at 10:03 AM
Redyne, first of all, sorry if my post seemed like a personal attack. I don't know your history and I apologize if that comment stirred some troubled waters.
It's just that your post showed no sign of actually having read what's going on. Honestly it seemed more of an "I don't know what you think, but I think Allakhazam is a great guy!" response rather than an actual comment on the situation.
Allakhazam will need lots of support on this one, especially since he's got to make the site run for real now. I'm sure he's lucky to have someone like you guarding his rear. However, I believe you are wrong when you say that gaming companies don't pursue this aggressively. It's just that they can pin them on anything. Most likely all the big goldselling sites are located in some eastern country where they have no chance of getting to them. But I know that just recently Blizzard banned, what, 4,000 accounts for breaking the TOS? That's a crapload of cash out the window (approximately $60,000 a month).
I know people complained about slow servers here on the site. Hell, I complained regularly myself. But had I known that this would be the consequence of those complaints I would've shut my mouth.
Now it's too late and I regret that.
It's just that your post showed no sign of actually having read what's going on. Honestly it seemed more of an "I don't know what you think, but I think Allakhazam is a great guy!" response rather than an actual comment on the situation.
Allakhazam will need lots of support on this one, especially since he's got to make the site run for real now. I'm sure he's lucky to have someone like you guarding his rear. However, I believe you are wrong when you say that gaming companies don't pursue this aggressively. It's just that they can pin them on anything. Most likely all the big goldselling sites are located in some eastern country where they have no chance of getting to them. But I know that just recently Blizzard banned, what, 4,000 accounts for breaking the TOS? That's a crapload of cash out the window (approximately $60,000 a month).
I know people complained about slow servers here on the site. Hell, I complained regularly myself. But had I known that this would be the consequence of those complaints I would've shut my mouth.
Now it's too late and I regret that.
Please "talk up" if your comprehension white-shifts. I will use simple-happy language-words to help you understand.
#470
May 04 2006 at 10:06 AM
I never thought I'd see Allakhazam sell out.
A sad, sad day indeed.
Allakhazam, I can understand you taking a huge offer. I hope you can understand that I don't want to be part of anything that's connected, even in the remotest way, with IGE.
#471
May 04 2006 at 10:07 AM
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But why go back on your word and sell out why not ask us before asking them they should have gave us that option not all of us are poor joes some of us actually have the money to donate to a cause.
Premium account??? The extra's are perks, but it really is money to support the site! The fee, a very low price was reasonable, and maybe if EVERYONE paid it, there might have been other options.
Either way, what have you got to loose by letting Alla prove himself?
Guides, information, and posts put in an open forum are public domain. You loose your ownership once you post them openly!!
Edited, Thu May 4 11:08:29 2006 by Redyne
#472
May 04 2006 at 10:11 AM
Redyne wrote:
Either way, what have you got to loose by letting Alla prove himself?
Increased premium costs, more premium only content, IGE using this acquisition to muscle out even more sites, IGE using this site to legitimize itself
I could go on and on and on and on and on and on and on.
Bode - 100 Holy Paladin - Lightbringer
#473
May 04 2006 at 10:14 AM
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But why go back on your word and sell out why not ask us before asking them they should have gave us that option not all of us are poor joes some of us actually have the money to donate to a cause.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#474
May 04 2006 at 10:16 AM
So you sold out to the gold farmers eh? I won't be using your site any longer...why don't you tell your users the truth rather than selling this to them as an improvement.
Ogaming is IGE...is gold farmers...
Ogaming is IGE...is gold farmers...
#475
May 04 2006 at 10:17 AM
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I had a premium membership a couple times, I never post but I really liked Allakhazam but I won't visit sites tied to IGE as their farming practices have had large negative impacts on the games I love.
It's a sad day...
It's a sad day...
#476
May 04 2006 at 10:19 AM
Bodhi
I respect you, and I know you feel strongly about this issue. I am not trying to provoke you, but do you really feel that by destroying Alla, that IGE will disappear?
Red
I respect you, and I know you feel strongly about this issue. I am not trying to provoke you, but do you really feel that by destroying Alla, that IGE will disappear?
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