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#302 May 03 2006 at 10:53 PM Rating: Good
I'm so happy I quit posting on these forums a few months back.

Later, Allatards.
#303 May 03 2006 at 10:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Of course it's a smart business deal. He gets lots of money and when you're old and out of school you want lots of money. That's how you live!

It doesn't change the fact that MMOs are destroyed by business like RMT and are a detriment (sp?) to their growth. Ends do not justify means.
#304 May 03 2006 at 10:59 PM Rating: Good
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So how long before the premium goes up and free content becomes increasingly and increasingly limited?
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#305 May 03 2006 at 11:06 PM Rating: Excellent
Allakhazam Defender of Justice wrote:
The only people who owned us back in 2005 was Allakhazam.com, LLC which was a partnership fully owned by Illia and myself.
So that means Illia made off like a bandit too? Wild.
#306 May 03 2006 at 11:06 PM Rating: Default
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everyone needs to stfu and get over it, if you dont like it, take your own time/money and invest in your own website. Make your own sacrifices, take your own risks, then maybe you can decide how to run things. But until you do, nobody here has the right to criticize whats going on.

Dont like something? stop crying and do something about it.
#307 May 03 2006 at 11:06 PM Rating: Decent
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#308 May 03 2006 at 11:07 PM Rating: Default
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With all the corporate sponsorship, investors and whatnot, I'd expect Premium subscriptions to go down (if not away altogether), not up. I like the idea of forum posting only vs. gaming utility subscriptions being differentiated.

Mind you, this is completely disregarding my opinions on the actual idea of the "corporate merger" itself. Relating directly to the correlations already given, I consider myself a casualty of the shenanigans pulled by Altria/Kraft/Nasbisco/Philip Morris (as well as IBM, though that's a different matter).

My girlfriend, being a hardcore EQ2 raider, uses OGaming very frequently so this merger will go a ways to bring my girlfriend and me closer together. Strange.
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#309 May 03 2006 at 11:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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As long as we are profitable, they will leave us alone and let us do our thing.


It would be horribly ironic if you lost your profitability from so many premium accounts being canceled.

Just saying
#310 May 03 2006 at 11:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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everyone needs to stfu and get over it, if you dont like it, take your own time/money and invest in your own website. Make your own sacrifices, take your own risks, then maybe you can decide how to run things. But until you do, nobody here has the right to criticize whats going on.

plenty of the people in this thread have invested considerable time and small amounts of money in allakhazam's.

and yes, we have the right to criticize what's going on.
#311 May 03 2006 at 11:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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everyone needs to stfu and get over it, if you dont like it, take your own time/money and invest in your own website. Make your own sacrifices, take your own risks, then maybe you can decide how to run things. But until you do, nobody here has the right to criticize whats going on.

Dont like something? stop crying and do something about it.


So um...People come to this site for forums...ok. They also come here for guides on how to do stuff, who made those guides? OH THAT'S RIGHT, the users.
#312 May 03 2006 at 11:13 PM Rating: Default
Despite everyone fearing that we would support RMT via buying premium, I find myself believing that RMT even at their lowest income would put anything Alla could produce to shame. I highly doubt the money we put in as a community would support them in anyway. On that note others dislike the idea that Alla and Co. Are using RMT’s “Dirty money” to improve things for the rest of us.

Well, I don’t care. Our/My government (US) seizes property to aid the law enforcement all the time. If they take a Drug dealers car and turn it into a undercover unit well sweet. If a guy just robbed a bank and gave me $100 I’d walk away with a smile on my face. If what Alla tells us is true then we won’t see adds, no pop-ups and a continued bans on character selling then dammit, go for it.

In the end, It’s all taste, if you have a strong moral objection to sharing a house with the bad guy instead of living in the shanty then I’m sure you can find the door. Until I see this place go to hell or proof that our dollar is helping out RMT then I will continue to use Allakhazam
#313 May 03 2006 at 11:14 PM Rating: Default
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TheBlix wrote:
fenderputy the Shady wrote:
You have 45 posts to your name and, you dont' pay for premium. Your opinion mean what now?


Just the fact that you care about his post count is weak. Smiley: disappointed

You know some people have been here as long as you, and much longer, I'm sure, with a post count still in the tens or hundreds?

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BLAH BLAH BLAH. If he's posted that much in over two years, I wouldn't consider him to be a valued part of the community. Has he given anything back? Nope. He wouldn't be considered much help to the community either. Not even a premium membership has been given. In other words, if he's been around that lond he's a free loader.

Jesus Cristo you're a moran.

I pay money but, it's not for the use of this site. I don't have to pay money to use this site. I pay for the support of something I use so much and, for the avatars. I no longer support his business practices and, avatars aren't that important.
#314 May 03 2006 at 11:17 PM Rating: Good
No one has mentioned this, either.

IGE is giving your Mystery Company money, which you're taking to improve the site. their money is comping here.

Allakhazam is part of "dirty" money.

[:Barf:]

Either way there has to be some some connection.

~Blix
#315 May 03 2006 at 11:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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Dont like something? stop crying and do something about it.


i think thats what they -are- doing :P
#316 May 03 2006 at 11:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Sir, I appologize if I've offended you in some way as that was not my intent. I was simply stating my opinion. And while that may differ from yours that's hardly criteria for dismissing its validity or insulting my inteligence or worth. I understand that you're angry, and you have a right to be I was merely offering another perspective on the matter but in no way did I intend to belittle or berate you if thats the impression you got.
#317 May 03 2006 at 11:20 PM Rating: Good
fenderputy the Shady wrote:
TheBlix wrote:
fenderputy the Shady wrote:
You have 45 posts to your name and, you dont' pay for premium. Your opinion mean what now?


Just the fact that you care about his post count is weak. Smiley: disappointed

You know some people have been here as long as you, and much longer, I'm sure, with a post count still in the tens or hundreds?

~Blix
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BLAH BLAH BLAH. If he's posted that much in over two years, I wouldn't consider him to be a valued part of the community. Has he given anything back? Nope. He wouldn't be considered much help to the community either. Not even a premium membership has been given. In other words, if he's been around that lond he's a free loader.

Jesus Cristo you're a moran.

I pay money but, it's not for the use of this site. I don't have to pay money to use this site. I pay for the support of something I use so much and, for the avatars. I no longer support his business practices and, avatars aren't that important.


Besides the fact that him just being here for a long time supports the site, even if he's never bought premium?

You think you're better because you have more posts, because you're premium, which is stupid. But if you like feeling like you're more of a man, more of a human, by all means...

~Blix
#318 May 03 2006 at 11:23 PM Rating: Good
Congratulations!

you have definately earned it... I have watched this site grow from nothing in the early days of eq and watched as more games were added and the traffic increased.

I am sure you are enjoying your new found wealth.

That being said...

I will not come back to this site. I am completely against your parent company ige and everything it stands for. As such I will regret losing this site as a source of information for (currently) WoW, just as I regret losing thottbot to them last year.

and so my search begins again for a site with content, not run by gold farmers... any leads would be nice!

later

t
#319 May 03 2006 at 11:26 PM Rating: Decent
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alla made the baby tarus cry :(
#320 May 03 2006 at 11:27 PM Rating: Excellent
Allakhazam Defender of Justice wrote:
The ownership issues here are convoluted. This is how deals like this get done. The size of this is pretty amazing. This is just the announcement for our own users, not the actual corporate announcement, which will likely come much later. We are now owned by a company that owns a bunch of stuff, including IGE. They bought both of us (and several other sites as well) and then split us into separate divisions so that there is no interaction between them. You know my stand on gold selling. Before agreeing to anything like this, I wanted to make sure that there would be no interaction between those divisions and that I would have complete control over the new network, including the sites that used to be part of ogaming. So this means that the Ogaming sites and Thottbot have been split off of IGE and into our network and no longer have any connection with them.
Sorry, Alla. I'll believe that you aren't a sell-out when the parent company divests themselves of IGE.
#321 May 03 2006 at 11:28 PM Rating: Default
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Bardalicious wrote:
everyone needs to stfu and get over it, if you dont like it, take your own time/money and invest in your own website. Make your own sacrifices, take your own risks, then maybe you can decide how to run things. But until you do, nobody here has the right to criticize whats going on.

Dont like something? stop crying and do something about it.


How many retards do we have here?

Common business practice is controlled by the owner/CEO/Whatever. Other things affect business decisions though, including economic conditions, mother nature, employee, stockholders and stakeholder opinion. You don't sound like you know what a stakeholder is so I'll inform you. A stakeholder is anyone who has any interest in the company. This would include customers, other people he does business with and even those people who speak out against RMT but have nothing to do with posting here. Even Tuna is being caught with "dolphin safe nets" now because off all the negative backlash companies have gotten from PETA and other animal nuts. Business is here to provide for the customer. As such I have every right to criticize what's going on. Get over it and **** off.
#322 May 03 2006 at 11:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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I always liked the Alla forums because they were easy to navigate and (for the most part) ultra-friendly and helpful. I've never used any other forums but these and now to be quasi-affilliated with IGE is kinda disturbing no matter how you try to sugar it up, an affilliation is an affilliation.

Perhaps the best thing to come out of all of this is everyone's new avatars.

IGE must be happy though, they now have that affilliation with yet another major forum for many MMO games, thus (them hoping) to expand their profits, which in turn expand profits for those sites who directly or indirectly support them.

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A lot of things are happening lately, bothing in game an out, that make me question how fun this even is any more. The more I think about it the more distressing it becomes. Perhaps the solitude of ffxi.cannotlinkto and the comfort of my friends in my LS forums will suffice for now. Everyone seems to be digging these ffxionline.com forums, maybe I'll even check them out.

I'm kind of glad I kept questioning myself every time I almost bought a premium account. Hmm, since I never have been paying for a premium account, perhaps my opinion may not matter and is falling on deaf ears.

Mr. Allakhazam, sir, your forums were well maintained and always a big source of my morning, afternoon, and night time browsing. The community was fun and laid back, making everyone feel welcome and giving a home to those who chose to join and stay at Allakhazam's place over others such as Killing Ifrit, et al. I will truly miss them.

In the words of David Bowie, "Damn Zam, thank you ma'am." ...or something like that.

/disgusted

/cry

Note to self - change Internet Explorer's home page.

EDIT - From a business standpoint, congratulations and I wish you the best. Buisiness-wise this may have been a very smart move and will expand the Alla network and serviced many, many times. I'm sure even with a few cancelling their premium accounts you still still prospire due. But it's the standpoint of not supporing the RMT industry and then eventually joining with it which is the kicker to most. :-\ I dunno, great site, always seemed like great guy, great admins, and great community...but face value it seems like a poor decision to make a few more bucks.

Edited, Thu May 4 00:36:41 2006 by Mikaal
#323 May 03 2006 at 11:32 PM Rating: Default
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TheBlix wrote:
fenderputy the Shady wrote:
TheBlix wrote:
fenderputy the Shady wrote:
You have 45 posts to your name and, you dont' pay for premium. Your opinion mean what now?


Just the fact that you care about his post count is weak. Smiley: disappointed

You know some people have been here as long as you, and much longer, I'm sure, with a post count still in the tens or hundreds?

~Blix
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BLAH BLAH BLAH. If he's posted that much in over two years, I wouldn't consider him to be a valued part of the community. Has he given anything back? Nope. He wouldn't be considered much help to the community either. Not even a premium membership has been given. In other words, if he's been around that lond he's a free loader.

Jesus Cristo you're a moran.

I pay money but, it's not for the use of this site. I don't have to pay money to use this site. I pay for the support of something I use so much and, for the avatars. I no longer support his business practices and, avatars aren't that important.


Besides the fact that him just being here for a long time supports the site, even if he's never bought premium?

You think you're better because you have more posts, because you're premium, which is stupid. But if you like feeling like you're more of a man, more of a human, by all means...

~Blix



Ehhh? What the hell are you talking about? I don't think I'm better. I just don't think his opinion means richard. Ask any business owner which customers he treats well. It isn't going to be someone he hardly sees and, it surely isn't someone who hasn't ever payed them.
#324 May 03 2006 at 11:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Like I said in my last post I didn't intend to offend you, and I oppologize if I did.

And I agree that Alla is more likely to listen to paying customer than a non paying one actually. It's just common sense.

I was simply stating my opinion, that is all.
#325 May 03 2006 at 11:35 PM Rating: Decent
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He gets money pretty much every time he's been on this site for the ads.
#326 May 03 2006 at 11:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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Changes I'd like to see:
---Better interface and site customizability. FFXI gets this boring blue background 24/7.
Mini-forums for all quests, regions, items, etc etc etc(all things game related that can possibly be in the database) should remain intact. Not sure on any specific changes, but yeah.
---A few things are 'off' and 'inconsistant'. More accuracy in database entries would be nice. A small example: some MNK items are labeled 'counter+' while others are labeled 'counterattack+', whereas there is no such difference in the game. The stat calc on the character stats generator is inaccurate.
---New idea! Incentives! A particular forum-goer or site user types up a guide or mini data sheet on a particular gameplay element, he/she gets a 1 or 2 dollar reward if the information is good! Its got good intention written all over it, but I could see problems with it being abused. You would need a different rating system that is unbaised to a users' karma level; rating to achieve 'incentive level' would require a significant amount of 'yays' over 'nay' votes. This would however, encourage highly accurate information straight from the player's mouths. (no more guessing! need i remind ye of brady games failure at all of their walkthroughs?)


I can't think of anything else for now. I definitely want to stay optimistic and see how the changes go over the summer. One thing you need to realize is that ffxi.allakhazam excels over all other forum community sites because of its forum interactivity with every item in its database. Users can post comments and chime in on every single quest, mission, NPC, Monster, armor, weapon, area in the game- and compare their tips and opinions with the site's data. All on the same page you're looking at!

With a few tweaks it'll go from '#1 for user input, but #3 for 100% accurate data', to #1 stop for all of it.
I don't know how ffxi.cannotlinkto does it, but their database is alot better. If you had their database accuracy and the opinion/forum options of allakhazam, you'd be set. Mysterytour still beats out all of 'ya for fast, up-to-date, super accurate data.







But I still wouldn't pay premium. What's in it for me besides avatar and flashy colors? =)

-Lac
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