Jophiel wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
Are they "anti-gay" organizations or "pro-traditional marriage" organizations? There's a distinct difference.
One sounds better on your letterhead than the other?
I'm Pro USA, so I want the USA to win the Olympics. That doesn't mean I'm "Anti-Japanese". If the USA isn't participating in an event, I don't care if the Japanese wins, loses or doesn't participate.
There's a huge difference supporting an organization that supports marriage between a man and a woman vs an organization that wants homosexuals dead or in jail with no freedom of any sort. One is supporting a desired set up for marriage and the other is specifically singling out a particular group.
Nilatai wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
alwayslost wrote:
It's funny that people love to single out the odd comment and give absolutely no value to the actual deeds of this business.
Like donating millions to anti gay organizations?
Serious question:
Are they "anti-gay" organizations or "pro-traditional marriage" organizations? There's a distinct difference.
I'm glad you are opposed to interracial marriage and believe women are property of their father until they become property of their husband.
Could I interest you in signing my petition to revert to the real "traditional marriage".
I've said this before, tradition isn't a good enough reason to deny rights to a group of people.
I never claimed that "tradition" was a good enough reason alone for anything. I use the same counter argument for people arguing "tradition" to support the Confederate flag on our state flags. Since when do we simply use tradition to govern anything?
With that being said, your understanding of "tradition" is not the same definition of everyone else understanding of the word "tradition". People just use the term "traditional marriage" to describe marriage at their favorite point in time in history. Albeit they should clarify their stance with something more concrete than "tradition", you should understand that concept.
P.S. As I said before... rights aren't being denied, preferences ARE being denied. The ban on SSM is based on the SEX of the person NOT the sexuality. You being a homosexual does NOT take away your RIGHT to marry someone under the same pretenses as your heterosexual counterpart. Is that fair? Of course not. If you want to fight to change that, then so be it. Just please stop saying that "rights" are being taken away. Just because I can't marry the woman I love, because she's already married, doesn't mean I lost the right to marry.