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#1 Sep 22 2011 at 7:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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Reading an article from John Cheese on Cracked.com got me thinking about marriage. Being recently (and voluntarily) single myself, I've been trying to figure out what I want myself to be and what I want in a girlfriend. I've had several relationships, some a few years long, but I've never really come to the moment of thinking "NOW is the right time to pop the question!" Primarily it seems like that's due to dating students; it always seems like marriage is what you do "after school is over," not while it's going on. But do folks here have specific conditions that they had to meet before tying the knot?

The author gave his idea of 5 criteria:
#5. You Don't Have to Impress Each Other
#4. You Have Learned How to Trust
#3. You Become Friends (at Some Point)
#2. Neither of You is in Debt to the Other
#1. You Are Truly Grasping What "Forever" Means

Looking at those I can see how I fell short in my most serious relationships. But then again in my longest relationship I fulfilled all of those and still got dumped well before marriage came about (we were pretty young though; 17-20). It makes me think there are others:
You need to be attracted to the other person
You have to have the same (or at least parallel) goals in life... although that might fall under #5

But not sure what else. So, question to the crowd: how do you know it's right, and did any of these criteria apply to you?

Edit: Article is probably NSFW.

Edited, Sep 22nd 2011 9:44am by LockeColeMA
#2 Sep 22 2011 at 7:53 AM Rating: Good
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I've known my wife since high school. We'd dated on again and off again for years, and we figured no one knew the two of us better than each other and went from there. So far it's been a great three years. So two through five. Forever is too long to worry about.
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#3 Sep 22 2011 at 8:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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How did you know when it was right?

When she told me.

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#4 Sep 22 2011 at 8:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'd just add, for a successful relationship, you have to keep communicating with each other regularly. People change over time, and if you are talking with one another, it lets you know how the other person is developing, growing, changing personal interests. It allows to admire them for new things, or the opportunity to try new things with them, or to follow their development, or to mature together, or to know when you are growing apart.
#5 Sep 22 2011 at 8:56 AM Rating: Good
I plan on dying alone, so problem solved for me. I'm pretty sure that I am a match for no one, and no one is a match for me. I guess it could change at some point, but I'm not investing any time or emotion disproving it.
#6 Sep 22 2011 at 9:00 AM Rating: Good
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LockeColeMA wrote:
You need to be attracted to the other person


Shouldn't that apply to any long-term relationship, anyway?

LockeColeMA wrote:
The author gave his idea of 5 criteria:
#5. You Don't Have to Impress Each Other
#4. You Have Learned How to Trust
#3. You Become Friends (at Some Point)
#2. Neither of You is in Debt to the Other
#1. You Are Truly Grasping What "Forever" Means

Looking at those I can see how I fell short in my most serious relationships. But then again in my longest relationship I fulfilled all of those and still got dumped well before marriage came about (we were pretty young though; 17-20). It makes me think there are others:
You need to be attracted to the other person
You have to have the same (or at least parallel) goals in life... although that might fall under #5

But not sure what else. So, question to the crowd: how do you know it's right, and did any of these criteria apply to you?


Cracked's criteria sound pretty applicable, as far as I can tell. #'s 3, 4, & 5 are all big factors in my relationship. My fiance is in a bit of debt to me, but meh. #1 seems to be more of a maturity thing...I think it'd only be an issue with people who are looking to marry real young, or early into a relationship.

Parallel goals...I dunno. Things can be bridged if people are comfortable with compromising on issues, too. Obviously, you can't have diametrically opposed goals. We just try to find ways to make our goals work together, and support each other.

I'd say that shared morals/values are more important, as well as effective communication and a willingness to consider each other's views.
#7 Sep 22 2011 at 9:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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We were friends before we started dating. At some point in there we got married and had kids. We're still friends 12 years later.

I'm not sure there's a lot more to it than that.
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#8 Sep 22 2011 at 9:07 AM Rating: Good
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We were friends before we started dating. At some point in there we got married and had kids. We're still friends 12 years later.

I'm not sure there's a lot more to it than that.
Sounds like the right way to do it.
#9 Sep 22 2011 at 9:24 AM Rating: Good
We knew within a few months that we started dating that this was probably "it" but it took another two years before we got engaged, and another five after that before we actually got married. Part of that was my reluctance - we started dating shortly after my father passed away, and I was concerned I was having "daddy issues" with my new beau. (They really didn't look that much alike until my husband shaved his head.)

So my addition to the list is "You're both sure you don't have any lingering issues that are going to cloud up the relationship" - specifically issues related to circumstances that occurred shortly before you started dating, such as a breakup, a life-altering experience, or a death as it was in my case.
#10 Sep 22 2011 at 9:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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Ray and I met in September/October '96, had our first date that November, got engaged that December, eloped February '97 and had our wedding April '97.

It was comet fast when we got together. Ray has always said the moment he saw me, he knew he was going to marry me. I knew after our first date. But for the criteria:

#5. You Don't Have to Impress Each Other -- It wasn't so much as impressing each other, but we want to be the best person for each other. I want Ray to be proud of me when we go out together and vice versa.

#4. You Have Learned How to Trust -- That's a cornerstone in any lasting relationship.

#3. You Become Friends (at Some Point) -- I tell Ray that not only do I love him but I also like him.

#2. Neither of You is in Debt to the Other -- That's one of our hard and fast rules. We try not to score in our relationship for anything. Because keeping score leads to playing games leads to serious fights.

#1. You Are Truly Grasping What "Forever" Means -- This one was very easy for me because of my Filpino Catholic background. When Ray met my family and realized that my parents, my grandparents and almost every single of my aunts and uncles are still married, he realized that for me marriage is forever.

I see it this way: When you meet someone that you know is the one, it's because that person complements and matches you on 5 levels: Physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually and sexually. And it depends on the 2 of you to navigate those 5 levels throughout the relationship. And the levels change on what seems to be a daily basis.

Have we had our ups and downs? Hell yeah. Has the D word ever been tossed around during our fights? You betcha (Palin wink). But it's a matter of powering through the fights and clearing the air. Ray does things that will always irritate me and I do things that will always **** Ray off. But we've learned that those things are still things we do cherish about one another.

Getting married is @#%^ing easy. Staying married is the challenge.

Edited, Sep 22nd 2011 8:41am by Thumbelyna
#11 Sep 22 2011 at 10:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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Thumbelyna Quick Hands wrote:


Getting married is @#%^ing easy. Having kids is the challenge.


ftfy
#12 Sep 22 2011 at 3:50 PM Rating: Good
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I plan on dying alone, so problem solved for me. I'm pretty sure that I am a match for no one, and no one is a match for me. I guess it could change at some point, but I'm not investing any time or emotion disproving it.

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#13 Sep 22 2011 at 10:17 PM Rating: Excellent
I can be completely myself with him. I can tell my husband some of my darkest thoughts and know that he'll either understand or work at it until he does. And I'm willing and able to do the same for him.

We both had a sh*t ton of baggage going in, and I've said before that had I really understood everything that was going on, I'd have waited before getting serious. But the truth is, having worked through all of that baggage together, we're incrdibly strong.

Oh, it also helps to agree on the really important stuff. ;)

Edit: Finally got the page to load. Enjoying the article, thanks!!

Edited, Sep 22nd 2011 11:20pm by Belkira
#14 Sep 23 2011 at 12:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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You know it is the right time when she says "honey? I am pregnant".
#15 Sep 23 2011 at 5:06 PM Rating: Good
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Thumbelyna Quick Hands wrote:


Getting married is @#%^ing easy. Having kids is the challenge.


ftfy



Getting married, staying married is a challenge. Having kids ups the ante and makes it more challenging.

On task, I just knew. We meet some, not others. Eek my marriage is ending! ;)
#16 Sep 23 2011 at 5:29 PM Rating: Good
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I'm really not a people person. I find all the silliness involved in social interaction to be more than a little tedious. It's made finding a mate more than a little difficult. Luckily, I actually enjoy being left the hell alone. I'm not quite a hermit, but I can see the appeal of such a lifestyle choice. All of this makes me somewhat unqualified to comment on the discussion at hand, so you can probably just go ahead and consider this a plus one.
#17 Sep 24 2011 at 8:55 PM Rating: Good
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LockeColeMA wrote:


The author gave his idea of 5 criteria:
#5. You Don't Have to Impress Each Other
#4. You Have Learned How to Trust
#3. You Become Friends (at Some Point)
#2. Neither of You is in Debt to the Other
#1. You Are Truly Grasping What "Forever" Means


My first marriage wasn't right and I had a ton of signals that I ignored, to include my MIL telling me that she didn't think her son was mature enough to be a husband.

With my second, I don't think there are enough words to express how right it feels. he IS my best friend, father of my two soon to be three children, we had wonderful life experiences before we met but the experiences we have had together are etched in our souls forever.

I know if he read this he would call me his mushpot and I also know that he would agree. Its weird, how you can understand the other without words having to ever be spoken. He knows my heart and I know his.

I hope that I live an extra long life just so I can have extra time with him....

(I might be extra mushy because of pregnancy hormones but I am deeply appreciative to be married to him. The longer we are together, the better it gets...)
#18 Sep 25 2011 at 5:41 PM Rating: Good
Thinking of the person I might want to marry, everything but #1 is pretty clear so far.

Location compatibility is an issue right now, but hopefully won't be if we marry, and is better than with most people I've been with. Actually, I don't think I'll ever meet anyone who'll be able to be in the same country as me every semester without some sort of compromise on both ends and I'm pretty much okay with having a place together anywhere now if it's not Saudi Arabia or something.

All that being said, I don't think we're ready to marry yet because there is a lot missing when it comes to seeing how well we do together in the long(er) term, more on his end than mine (because I can deal with almost anything, but feel like I might be hard to deal with).

So yeah, no idea at this point. I'll get back to you when I am married...?
#19 Sep 25 2011 at 9:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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Admiral Lubriderm wrote:
I plan on dying alone, so problem solved for me. I'm pretty sure that I am a match for no one, and no one is a match for me. I guess it could change at some point, but I'm not investing any time or emotion disproving it.

#20 Sep 26 2011 at 4:56 AM Rating: Good
Let's go Team Dying Alone!
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***** dying alone. My plan has always involved taking a large group of people with me.
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#22 Sep 26 2011 at 7:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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***** dying alone. My plan has always involved taking a large group of people with me.
I hope all the people here with pony avatars are going with you.
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***** dying alone. My plan has always involved taking a large group of people with me.
I hope all the people here with pony avatars are going with you.

No no, they're coming with me. Don't you dare try and take my dying wish from me.
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#24 Sep 26 2011 at 9:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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For me, it wasn't a matter of one day just knowing. We've been together so long at this point (5 years prior to engagement) that it was a foregone conclusion that it would happen.
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when I had to wait till she was asleep to have sex.
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