Forum Settings
       
Reply To Thread

Small Aquarium AdviceFollow

#27 Jul 14 2011 at 7:45 PM Rating: Excellent
Avatar
******
29,919 posts
Guenny wrote:
Just in case anyone might care enough to change their ways, it is a myth that betta fish can thrive in tiny bowls. It's true that they sometimes live in puddles in rice paddies and whatnot, but that's usually in a dormant, survival state. If you put a betta in a full sized tank, they will be as active and alert as any fish you could have.


Yeah, 1-2 gallons minimum. I've found that some of them reeeely don't like filter currents though, to the point they seem to do much better in a non filtered environment with adequate water changes over even a low flow filter.
____________________________
Arch Duke Kaolian Drachensborn, lvl 95 Ranger, Unrest Server
Tech support forum | FAQ (Support) | Mobile Zam: http://m.zam.com (Premium only)
Forum Rules
#28 Jul 14 2011 at 8:32 PM Rating: Good
Man, I want to get an aquarium again.
#29 Jul 14 2011 at 9:25 PM Rating: Good
Muggle@#%^er
******
20,024 posts
I think fish are cool, but things with exoskeletons freak me out.

But maybe I could deal with the one or two shrimp it would take to keep a tank clean...

Idk. I really would like to create an aquarium someday, in any case.
____________________________
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people

lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
#30 Jul 14 2011 at 10:22 PM Rating: Good
I think I'm going to get a new aquarium this weekend now. Might just do the same set up, with a betta, and a few other randoms.
#31 Jul 14 2011 at 10:34 PM Rating: Good
Muggle@#%^er
******
20,024 posts
Awww, half the fun is spending a ludicrous amount of time to meticulously plan every detail!

I've always wanted to try and make an aquarium with a specific locale in mind. Instead of JUST selecting plants/critters that work well in <insert the temp range I'm interested in>, I'd select them based on region as well. So maybe make a south-east Asian tank, with all south-east asian water plants and creatures. Something like that. :P

Only real problem I see is that it would drive up costs really quickly... And you might need to deviate from it slightly so as to allow for tank cleaners, since not everything transitions well to captivity.
____________________________
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people

lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
#32 Jul 14 2011 at 11:29 PM Rating: Excellent
Avatar
******
29,919 posts
idiggory wrote:
Awww, half the fun is spending a ludicrous amount of time to meticulously plan every detail!

I've always wanted to try and make an aquarium with a specific locale in mind. Instead of JUST selecting plants/critters that work well in <insert the temp range I'm interested in>, I'd select them based on region as well. So maybe make a south-east Asian tank, with all south-east asian water plants and creatures. Something like that. :P

Only real problem I see is that it would drive up costs really quickly... And you might need to deviate from it slightly so as to allow for tank cleaners, since not everything transitions well to captivity.


If you are really interested in that aspect, or in planted tank design, I'd strongly reccommend this book: http://www.amazon.com/Aquarium-Designs-Inspired-Nature-Hiscock/dp/0764155490 despite the less than fortunatly named author. It's exactly that. what rocks to use, what fish, what plants, what water PH, examples, all of it. Wonderful book for anyone looking for basic "how do i move beyond the fake plastic shipwreck" decor stage of design in their aquarium, but especially the location derived ones.
____________________________
Arch Duke Kaolian Drachensborn, lvl 95 Ranger, Unrest Server
Tech support forum | FAQ (Support) | Mobile Zam: http://m.zam.com (Premium only)
Forum Rules
#33 Jul 14 2011 at 11:32 PM Rating: Good
Avatar
*****
13,007 posts
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
I'd strongly reccommend this book: http://www.amazon.com/Aquarium-Designs-Inspired-Nature-Hiscock/dp/0764155490 despite the less than fortunatly named author.
The guy has a name like that and goes into the fish tank business. He certainly missed an opportunity.
#34 Jul 15 2011 at 12:11 AM Rating: Good
Muggle@#%^er
******
20,024 posts
Putting the two together brings up very questionable images... And thanks Kao, that book sounds awesome.
____________________________
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people

lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
#35 Jul 15 2011 at 8:38 AM Rating: Good
***
2,346 posts
I have one of thesecheap walmart 1 gallon tanks.

Any suggestion on what I could put in it? From reading what Kao said I know that limits myself to either 1, approx 1in fish or a couple smaller ones.

I had a betta in there for awhile, it does have a small filtration thing, you can see it better if you go into the 360 view. I was scared to use that with my betta because I didn't know if it would create too much current for his liking so I kept it off but I'm sure I could use it for other fish.
#36 Jul 15 2011 at 8:47 AM Rating: Good
Our dentist has some awesome saltwater tanks. I love the little clown fish, and he has some of the small stingrays and tiny sharks. I love watching them while I wait.
#37 Jul 15 2011 at 11:55 AM Rating: Good
I might be able to get a 55 gallon tank for free (at least to borrow). Anyone think that might be overkill for a betta and perhaps a few other small fish?
#38 Jul 15 2011 at 1:08 PM Rating: Good
Muggle@#%^er
******
20,024 posts
Quote:
Our dentist has some awesome saltwater tanks. I love the little clown fish, and he has some of the small stingrays and tiny sharks. I love watching them while I wait.


BUT THEIR FATHERS ARE LOOKING FOR THEM!
____________________________
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people

lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
#39 Jul 15 2011 at 9:39 PM Rating: Excellent
Avatar
******
29,919 posts
Monsieur Lubriderm wrote:
I might be able to get a 55 gallon tank for free (at least to borrow). Anyone think that might be overkill for a betta and perhaps a few other small fish?


There is really no such thing as "too large" a tank. The bigger ones are easier to clean because they don't need it as often. The filtration gear and lights and such does tend to be more expensive though. You could always plant the crap out of it if you were so inclined. That or if you really only want to focus on a few fish, maybe consider getting something larger bt fancy, like a Discus?

I think if you had a 55 gallon tank you would eventually fill it. Its a good size to start with, as they are more forgiving. 10's can be too chemically unstable, 20's are good, but can get cramped quickly. 30's are hard to find. I'd say go for it if the tank is in good shape and comes with the filtration and lights.
____________________________
Arch Duke Kaolian Drachensborn, lvl 95 Ranger, Unrest Server
Tech support forum | FAQ (Support) | Mobile Zam: http://m.zam.com (Premium only)
Forum Rules
#40 Jul 15 2011 at 9:53 PM Rating: Excellent
Avatar
******
29,919 posts
Hyolith wrote:
I have one of thesecheap walmart 1 gallon tanks.

Any suggestion on what I could put in it? From reading what Kao said I know that limits myself to either 1, approx 1in fish or a couple smaller ones.

I had a betta in there for awhile, it does have a small filtration thing, you can see it better if you go into the 360 view. I was scared to use that with my betta because I didn't know if it would create too much current for his liking so I kept it off but I'm sure I could use it for other fish.


A small filtration unit in the corner won't cause problems for a betta if you get one again in the future. It's only the higher flow over the back and canister filters that tend to annoy them.

A 1 gallon tank is really almost too small. It's going to be subject to alot of thermal changes. A betta might do well in that, you might have problems with other fish. You could get a couple of neon tetras, a single fancy male guppy, potentially a couple of ghost shrimp for cleanup duty. Goldfish really are messy crap fish but they would do well in that tank. Adding a live plant, possibly a java fern if the light isn't the brightest in the world would help.

Most of the livebearers (mollies, plattys, swordtails, etc) would do ok in that environment. A dwarf gourmi might do ok, it could get too big and need a larger tank though.

If you can find one cheap, an Eclipse 3 tank would occupy only slightly more space, but has a much better filter and light.
____________________________
Arch Duke Kaolian Drachensborn, lvl 95 Ranger, Unrest Server
Tech support forum | FAQ (Support) | Mobile Zam: http://m.zam.com (Premium only)
Forum Rules
#41 Jul 15 2011 at 10:21 PM Rating: Good
Muggle@#%^er
******
20,024 posts
So out of curiosity, Kao (and anyone else that would like to share), what is your favorite:

Fish?
Plant?
Invertebrate?

Feel free to discuss based on sub-categories if you would like. :P
____________________________
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people

lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
#42 Jul 15 2011 at 10:50 PM Rating: Excellent
Avatar
******
29,919 posts
Well, for me at least, I have a couple of favorite fish. I really like my twig catfish. They clean nicely, they look likee goofy sticks, and how many fish will docily let you pick them up and pet them if you want. Literally. http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/143031-twig-catfish/ . I used to have a leaf fish too, unfortunatly it was a bit too carniverous for my tank, and it ate a few too many tetras. It was awsome though, it would hide in the plants, pretending to be a leaf, swimming up to things sideways with the currents. The Roseline sharks are the showpieces of the tank, but they don't have much personality. I like the clown loaches too. They are about the closest you will get to a puppy in aquariums. The Siamese algae eaters don't look like all that much, but they do a damned good job of cleaning. I guess overall either the roselines or the twig catfish. The smaller ones are nice to look at, and the angle fish, but they don't have much personality either. And the plecostimus annoys me. So does the kissing gourmi. I grew a bunch of baby salmon for a Jr. high school science program, they were really cool to watch grow, but they took alot of specialized equipment, and we had to let them go before they got too big.

Plants, I'd say my favorite one overall is the bananna plant. It looks goofy. If you can find them, baby mangrove trees make an ideal addition to your sump for filtration in a freshwater or saltwater aquarium. underwater bamboo looks neat too. One of my other favorites is madigascar lace leaf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aponogeton_madagascariensis It looks like someone made a plant out of a flyswatter. If you need a mix of other plants, I have a bunch of ones I use.

For invertebrates, My favorite of all time was "The Snail". It was a male yellow apple snail that grew to the size of a tennis ball when I was down in houston. I tried a few apple snails after him, but it just wasn't the same, and i was getting an infestation of pest snails, so I got the clown loaches instead and they are not compatable with new snails. I've also had freshwater clams and muscles. you have to be careful with them, as their offspring can attack fish in the free floating stage. A simple UV water sterelizer takes care of that though. Having live clams at the bottom of the aquarium is definitly a conversation piece. I think my other favorites are the shrimp. I've actually managed to breed cherry shrimp down in my sump. The larger bamboo shrimp tend to be more interesting to watch and safer around larger fish that will otherwise eat them. Stay far away from crawish and crabs unless you enjoy watching them eat your fish or escaping the tank and dying.

I have had frogs in the tank occasionally, i've never really had good luck with them. Had an eel once too. that was kind of neat.
____________________________
Arch Duke Kaolian Drachensborn, lvl 95 Ranger, Unrest Server
Tech support forum | FAQ (Support) | Mobile Zam: http://m.zam.com (Premium only)
Forum Rules
#43 Jul 16 2011 at 11:05 AM Rating: Good
Terrorfiend
*****
12,905 posts
You ever have a shrimp escape your tank? I know they are small and transparent, but I havent seen my shrimo since a few hrs after getting it.
#44 Jul 16 2011 at 11:29 AM Rating: Good
I had a black molly once. It was a little fat when I got it, but I just figured it was a fatso. A week later, there were like 40 little baby fishies hanging out at the bottom of the tank. Then the mom ate them.
#45 Jul 16 2011 at 2:32 PM Rating: Excellent
Avatar
******
29,919 posts
KTurner wrote:
You ever have a shrimp escape your tank? I know they are small and transparent, but I havent seen my shrimo since a few hrs after getting it.


They really are bad ascape artists. There are a vcouple possibilities. If you have a fish with a mouth bigger than said shrimp, it may have become a snack. If it was nearing the edge of the size range for its exoskeleton, it may be hiding somewhere in your tank and molting, or it may just like hiding under your decorations.
____________________________
Arch Duke Kaolian Drachensborn, lvl 95 Ranger, Unrest Server
Tech support forum | FAQ (Support) | Mobile Zam: http://m.zam.com (Premium only)
Forum Rules
#46 Jul 16 2011 at 2:43 PM Rating: Good
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
KTurner wrote:
You ever have a shrimp escape your tank? I know they are small and transparent, but I havent seen my shrimo since a few hrs after getting it.


They really are bad ascape artists. There are a vcouple possibilities. If you have a fish with a mouth bigger than said shrimp, it may have become a snack. If it was nearing the edge of the size range for its exoskeleton, it may be hiding somewhere in your tank and molting, or it may just like hiding under your decorations.
Kao, since you are the expert here, I have to ask: If I add sea men to an aquarium filled with sea people will it form a sea society?
#47 Jul 17 2011 at 12:02 AM Rating: Excellent
Avatar
******
29,919 posts
Monsieur Lubriderm wrote:
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
KTurner wrote:
You ever have a shrimp escape your tank? I know they are small and transparent, but I havent seen my shrimo since a few hrs after getting it.


They really are bad ascape artists. There are a vcouple possibilities. If you have a fish with a mouth bigger than said shrimp, it may have become a snack. If it was nearing the edge of the size range for its exoskeleton, it may be hiding somewhere in your tank and molting, or it may just like hiding under your decorations.
Kao, since you are the expert here, I have to ask: If I add sea men to an aquarium filled with sea people will it form a sea society?


It really depends on the level of technology the sea people have developed. If they have moved beyond simple stone tools, civilization is inevitable. Look for the Sea Saw...
____________________________
Arch Duke Kaolian Drachensborn, lvl 95 Ranger, Unrest Server
Tech support forum | FAQ (Support) | Mobile Zam: http://m.zam.com (Premium only)
Forum Rules
#48 Jul 17 2011 at 10:38 AM Rating: Good
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
It really depends on the level of technology the sea people have developed. If they have moved beyond simple stone tools, civilization is inevitable. Look for the Sea Saw...
That made me want to cut myself.

I think I may just get a 10 gallon and keep it to a betta (there is one I absolutely fell in love with in Petco) and maybe a few neons again. I honestly don't need a whole menagerie right now.

Edited, Jul 17th 2011 12:40pm by Lubriderm
#49 Jul 18 2011 at 6:40 AM Rating: Good
I like that the forum's 'small aquarium advice' is to get a bigger one.
#50 Jul 18 2011 at 8:10 AM Rating: Good
***
2,346 posts
Bigger is better.
#51 Jul 18 2011 at 8:26 AM Rating: Good
Kavekk wrote:
I like that the forum's 'small aquarium advice' is to get a bigger one.
Amazing that a thread evolved into something else.
Reply To Thread

Colors Smileys Quote OriginalQuote Checked Help

 

Recent Visitors: 350 All times are in CST
Anonymous Guests (350)