Tyrrant wrote:
NixNot wrote:
Seafood in all forms, as food, or euphemisms for vaginas, are disgusting and should not be consumed by anyone.
Somewhere a lesbian sushi chef is now crying.
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Tyrrant wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Um... But honestly, all of this is moot. If I buy some fish and that fish was sold to me by a packing company which paid for the inspections, then I paid a portion of the salary of the people who did the inspections.
gbaji wrote:
I ordered fish tacos at a local restaurant recently. Ergo, I pay your salary. Suck on that!!! ;)
The inspection is rolled into the cost of business this doesn't mean you are paying a portion of the salary of the inspectors. The cost of the inspections compared to the volume of product check split across all sales would come out to such a small amount for YOUR purchase referring to the taco's it wouldn't even be payable in currency without rounding up to the nearest penny and even then a single penny is still likely 50x more than your share. Obviously the higher the volume you buy the more of that fee you are technically paying off but it is still a cost of the business you are buying from not a cost to you.
Same can be said for lots of government jobs though. Take some guy who manages to get a $50,000 grant to research how re-runs of "I Love Lucy" affect the reproductive patterns of honeybees. We can also argue that the portion of my tax dollars which paid for that research is in the sub-penny range as well, right? Yet, I (and all other tax payers) are still "paying his salary". In exactly the same way that I (and all other fish buyers) are paying the salaries of the government seafood inspectors.
Just found it strange that someone (anyone, private or public employee) would make the claim that they're somehow not beholden to anyone for their job.
King Nobby wrote:
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they were making the claim that they were not beholden to average joe tax payer, but way to project. 
Edited, May 31st 2011 7:37pm by Xsarus
Edited, May 31st 2011 7:37pm by Xsarus
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gbaji wrote:
Just found it strange that someone (anyone, private or public employee) would make the claim that they're somehow not beholden to anyone for their job.
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Sir Xsarus wrote:
they were making the claim that they were not beholden to average joe tax payer, but way to project.
Uglysasquatch wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Just found it strange that someone (anyone, private or public employee) would make the claim that they're somehow not beholden to anyone for their job.
Except this is what he said:
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Grats! Goverment is the place to be. I work for the federal government...I smell fish forty hours a week. The best part is we are 100% self-funded so I don't have to listen to the jerks who say they pay my salary.
I don't see any statement that this applied to any random taxpayer. If you'll recall, my initial response was to ask about that specifically. I was pointing out that even if it's only everyone in the fish industry and everyone who buys fish there are still plenty of jerks who'll say that they pay his salary.
Yes. Jerks just like me! :)
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
gbaji wrote:
If you'll recall, my initial response was to ask about that specifically.
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Uglysasquatch wrote:
gbaji wrote:
If you'll recall, my initial response was to ask about that specifically.
If by "tangent" you mean me pointing out that everyone who is in the fish packing business and everyone who buys fish in the US pays his salary, then sure. I guess I don't see the value of saying "Ah hah! My salary isn't paid by every taxpayer in the country, but just by everyone who buys fish!!!". I'd wager that more people buy fish than actually pay income taxes, so what does that tell us?
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
The semantics in this thread are ridiculous. You could just be like, "Hey, grats on the new job!" Instead you come in here and vomit your garbage as usual.
gbaji wrote:
I'd wager that more people buy fish than actually pay income taxes, so what does that tell us?
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gbaji wrote:
Uglysasquatch wrote:
gbaji wrote:
If you'll recall, my initial response was to ask about that specifically.
If by "tangent" you mean me pointing out that everyone who is in the fish packing business and everyone who buys fish in the US pays his salary, then sure. I guess I don't see the value of saying "Ah hah! My salary isn't paid by every taxpayer in the country, but just by everyone who buys fish!!!". I'd wager that more people buy fish than actually pay income taxes, so what does that tell us?
You are really wow. Not all fish gets inspected by dept. of commerce. Actually, MOST seafood products don't get inspected (it is a voluntary service). I've already explained that I meant taxpayers, though it seems that most of the people here knew that already.
If it has a USDC stamp on it, it was inspected. If it doesn't have the stamp, it wasn't. Catfish is the only exception. 100% of catfish is inspected by USDA. All other seafood is covered by FDA (USDC =/= FDA). USDC offers a voluntary inspection service that goes beyond what FDA can do (FDA inspects plants once every two years)
Uglysasquatch wrote:
gbaji wrote:
I'd wager that more people buy fish than actually pay income taxes, so what does that tell us?
Because I'm right?
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An astonishing 43.4 percent of Americans now pay zero or negative federal income taxes. The number of single or jointly-filing "taxpayers" - the word must be applied sparingly - who pay no taxes or receive government handouts has reached 65.6 million, out of a total of 151 million.
Are you actually suggesting that fewer than 57% of people in the US eat fish at least once each year? A hell of a lot more people in the US eat fish than pay income taxes. Thus, it's quite arguable that more people can claim that they pay his salary than could if the inspections were just funded out of our federal income taxes.
But don't let reality get in the way of a good ad hominum!
King Nobby wrote:
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Ailitardif wrote:
I've already explained that I meant taxpayers, though it seems that most of the people here knew that already.
Yes. I understood what you meant. And I responded that this didn't mean that you were somehow less beholden to the public as a whole as a result. Hence my point that everyone affected in any way by the cost of those inspections is "paying your salary". And, as I have also pointed out, that is almost certainly *more* people than those who pay income taxes. Every poor family who buys a can of tuna with their food stamps is not a taxpayer but *is* paying your salary.
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
gbaji wrote:
Uglysasquatch wrote:
gbaji wrote:
I'd wager that more people buy fish than actually pay income taxes, so what does that tell us?
Because I'm right?
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Uglysasquatch wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Uglysasquatch wrote:
gbaji wrote:
I'd wager that more people buy fish than actually pay income taxes, so what does that tell us?
Because I'm right?
Ignoring != "showing it's irrelevant". His claim is that he doesn't have to deal with people coming up to him and saying that they pay his salary. That's clearly not true though, is it? You guys are making a hell of a lot bigger deal about this than is necessary. I was honestly just making a somewhat whimsical counter point. You've somehow turned this into some grand debate about fishes and taxes.
For the record, the correct response should have been: "Haha. That's true dude. You are so still going to have to deal with jerks who say they pay your salary. Sucks to be you!". But you had to get all uptight about it instead.
King Nobby wrote:
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Yes, it was us who made a big deal of nothing. Damn it, we got caught.
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Uglysasquatch wrote:
Yes, it was us who made a big deal of nothing. Damn it, we got caught.
What part of me joking about paying his salary by buying a fish taco for lunch made you think I was being super serious? I was just pointing out the absurdity/irrelevancy of his statement is all. Geez!
King Nobby wrote:
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I hate gbaji more than life itself.
gbaji wrote:
What part of me joking about paying his salary by buying a fish taco for lunch made you think I was being super serious?
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gbaji wrote:
Ailitardif wrote:
I've already explained that I meant taxpayers, though it seems that most of the people here knew that already.
Yes. I understood what you meant. And I responded that this didn't mean that you were somehow less beholden to the public as a whole as a result. Hence my point that everyone affected in any way by the cost of those inspections is "paying your salary". And, as I have also pointed out, that is almost certainly *more* people than those who pay income taxes. Every poor family who buys a can of tuna with their food stamps is not a taxpayer but *is* paying your salary.
You ignored the rest of what I said. Most seafood isn't inspected by USDC.
Uglysasquatch wrote:
gbaji wrote:
What part of me joking about paying his salary by buying a fish taco for lunch made you think I was being super serious?
Lol! Just me, right? No one else participated at all! ;)
See post above this one
Edited, Jun 2nd 2011 2:13pm by gbaji
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
gbaji wrote:
Lol! Just me, right? No one else participated at all! ;)
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Uglysasquatch wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Lol! Just me, right? No one else participated at all! ;)
Of course, he was kidding the whole time
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