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#52 Apr 04 2011 at 9:17 AM Rating: Good
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Also? If you need ten minutes away from him to center yourself, get out of the house. Go for a drive.


Great idea, Belkira, that sounds like the perfect time to pilot high-speed machinery.


I didn't say to drive 90 mph down the interstate, goob. Smiley: tongue

Silly Kavekk.


Well, that'd be worse, sure, but you can kill people easy enough at 30 if your eyes are fixed firmly on your navel rather than the road - or if you snap under the stress and become the sidewalk bowling champion you were always meant to be.


Sure, but if that's what you were meant to be, then you must follow your dream.
#53 Apr 04 2011 at 10:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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I was in relationship like that for 3 years.

I started lying about trivial things just to avoid unnecessary and childish conflict. It will eventually form into a complicated web and you'll get caught. Things will get much worse at that point as trust will become an issue. Assuming there's not another side to your story, I would suggest counseling. Constructive fighting/arguments enable growth in a relationship and you guys will be backtracking until your husband learns how to empathize with you.

You'll both begin to resent each other, if you already haven't, and there's no turning back after a certain point. That point being when you both feel like an obligation to each other opposed to feeling like partners.

You mentioned you were in counseling for bi-polar disorder. It takes a very caring and empathetic person to be in a relationship with a bi-polar spouse. Does your husband have a fair understanding of the disorder or does he mostly remove himself from that aspect of your life? I'm guessing the latter.
#54 Apr 04 2011 at 3:44 PM Rating: Good
Have you cut off his **** in his sleep yet?
#55 Apr 04 2011 at 3:55 PM Rating: Decent
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I think it's also valuable to be aware of what he's trying to get out of those arguments (as well as yourself). We often see arguments as the problem in a relationship, but they're usually just a symptom, and can often be part of the solution to relationship problems. I suspect that what your husband is trying to do is resolve whatever issue is going on, and he sees you pulling away or closing up as avoiding the core issue. It's a tricky balance to try to maintain. You want to talk the issue through, or it'll just build up and get worse over time. But sometimes one or both of you are so upset that talking isn't productive.

Have you tried couples counseling? Sometimes, having a third party there to mediate helps a ton. It can help both of you see where the other person is coming from and often you'll realize that what the other person is doing isn't intended to be harmful at all, but that both parties are missing what the other person needs to get out of the conversation/argument/whatever.
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#56 Apr 04 2011 at 4:04 PM Rating: Good
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Have you cut off his **** in his sleep yet?
Drowning all of the kids is another decent way of getting attention, too.
#57 Apr 04 2011 at 4:05 PM Rating: Good
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Have you tried couples counseling? Sometimes, having a third party there to mediate helps a ton. It can help both of you see where the other person is coming from and often you'll realize that what the other person is doing isn't intended to be harmful at all, but that both parties are missing what the other person needs to get out of the conversation/argument/whatever.


You didn't read the other responses, did you?
#58 Apr 04 2011 at 4:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
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Have you tried couples counseling? Sometimes, having a third party there to mediate helps a ton. It can help both of you see where the other person is coming from and often you'll realize that what the other person is doing isn't intended to be harmful at all, but that both parties are missing what the other person needs to get out of the conversation/argument/whatever.


You didn't read the other responses, did you?


I may have skimmed... ;)
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#59 Apr 04 2011 at 4:10 PM Rating: Good
gbaji wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Have you tried couples counseling? Sometimes, having a third party there to mediate helps a ton. It can help both of you see where the other person is coming from and often you'll realize that what the other person is doing isn't intended to be harmful at all, but that both parties are missing what the other person needs to get out of the conversation/argument/whatever.


You didn't read the other responses, did you?


I may have skimmed... ;)


Hehe.
#60 Apr 04 2011 at 4:59 PM Rating: Good
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So, basically, he likes the idea of sitting down and talking about things. However, when push comes to shove, instead of taking your feelings into consideration, he tries to make you justify them and refuses to acknowledge them as legitimate.

Lovely.
#61 Apr 04 2011 at 9:50 PM Rating: Decent
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I am not meaning to shoot down all your ideas, they are all very helpful and I am taking them into serious consideration, I am just telling you based on how much I know him, what will work and what will not. I just skimmed some of your post so when I get back, I will form a more articulated response. You guys are really the best and I want to thank you immensely for all your help.
#62 Apr 04 2011 at 10:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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Belkira the Tulip and Aripyanfar wrote:
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I have thought about leaving on more than one occasion. It's not out of any form of self-preservation, it's because I think he might have a chance to be happier without me. Sometimes, I feel like all I do is make him unhappy and bring him down. I think he would be better off without me. I am a selfish person because I actually do think that and I am still here. We have been together for so long, I can't remember my life before him. I can't remember not being with him. I am scared to be without him. I know it's stupid, corny, romantic, sappy sh*t but it's the truth.


He can make these decisions for himself. He's a grown man, if he doesn't want to be with you, then it's his own responsibility to get up and leave. It is not your responsibility to take care of his happiness, Delva. That's his responsibility. You have to take care of your happiness, and the rest will follow. Thinking like this and acting like this is just one of your own personal problems.

The fact that he is still there very likely means that he feels he gets more from being with you than he would from being without you. He loves you, numbnuts, even if he's bad at the conflict resolution thing. You also have to decide if you get more from being with him than you would from being without him.

And don't hold onto the illusion that you couldn't live without him. That's a common symptom of illnesses like ours. We CAN live on our own, and we CAN discover happiness in new circumstances. We CAN renew, rebuild, and recreate our lives. Don't stay with him out of terror or fear. Stay with him because you mean it when you say "I love you", rather than it being an automatic reflex to say. Stay with him because you are working on becoming a better person and it's helping your relationship grow.

Even though my partner is HOPELESS at being a functioning human, and at relationship stuff, he improved out of sight when I skilled up and became a better communicator and a better person. He reflected my improvements, learned a lot by osmosis, and bloomed when I thanked and praised him for the littlest tiny things.
#63 Apr 05 2011 at 5:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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Big improvement! We sat down and I asked him what about my demeanor, tone, or language sets him off. He said when I get upset, I tend to shut down and become apathetic. That makes him angry. I asked him if it would be easier talking about this through text of some sort. He said it might be and I asked him if he would be willing to try talking on messenger again. He said we could give it another go. I told him that when he calls the things I am upset about stupid or silly, it makes me angry and it makes it harder for me to be reasonable. I told him that in order for me to keep talking to him about these things, something has to change otherwise I will shut him out completely. He doesn't want that to happen so we both agreed to try and limit the things we do during our conversations that **** the other one off. We sat down and I read all the suggestions everyone had to see which ones he would be willing to try.

I do get more from being with him than without him. I enjoy a thousand different things that we do together throughout our day, be it big or small. He makes me strive to be a better person just being with him. I know he loves me, he is just kinda clueless about women and emotions in general.

Thanks guys. Each and every one of you. I'm sorry if I didn't seem to support your suggestions, but we agreed to try all of them, the last being counseling if all else fails. Y'all are the greatest!
#64 Apr 05 2011 at 6:35 AM Rating: Good
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Delva wrote:
he is just kinda clueless about women and emotions in general.
That's what you get for being a *********** of hormones.
#65 Apr 05 2011 at 6:51 AM Rating: Good
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Delva wrote:
Big improvement! We sat down and I asked him what about my demeanor, tone, or language sets him off. He said when I get upset, I tend to shut down and become apathetic. That makes him angry. I asked him if it would be easier talking about this through text of some sort. He said it might be and I asked him if he would be willing to try talking on messenger again. He said we could give it another go. I told him that when he calls the things I am upset about stupid or silly, it makes me angry and it makes it harder for me to be reasonable. I told him that in order for me to keep talking to him about these things, something has to change otherwise I will shut him out completely. He doesn't want that to happen so we both agreed to try and limit the things we do during our conversations that **** the other one off. We sat down and I read all the suggestions everyone had to see which ones he would be willing to try.

I do get more from being with him than without him. I enjoy a thousand different things that we do together throughout our day, be it big or small. He makes me strive to be a better person just being with him. I know he loves me, he is just kinda clueless about women and emotions in general.

Thanks guys. Each and every one of you. I'm sorry if I didn't seem to support your suggestions, but we agreed to try all of them, the last being counseling if all else fails. Y'all are the greatest!


I'm glad to hear it. I know it's scary bringing something this big to the table, especially when an argument is what you're trying to avoid at all costs, but I'm glad it turned out to be productive for you. Don't take for granted the time he spends apart from you and in his own head - throughout the days, these things will resonate and he will think about what is possible for him to change. And you, too. I hope if anything the two of you end up closer because you can constructively tell the other person what they need to improve, the two of you knowing each other better than absolutely anyone else.
#66 Apr 05 2011 at 8:33 AM Rating: Good
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Big improvement! We sat down and I asked him what about my demeanor, tone, or language sets him off. He said when I get upset, I tend to shut down and become apathetic. That makes him angry. I asked him if it would be easier talking about this through text of some sort. He said it might be and I asked him if he would be willing to try talking on messenger again. He said we could give it another go. I told him that when he calls the things I am upset about stupid or silly, it makes me angry and it makes it harder for me to be reasonable. I told him that in order for me to keep talking to him about these things, something has to change otherwise I will shut him out completely. He doesn't want that to happen so we both agreed to try and limit the things we do during our conversations that **** the other one off. We sat down and I read all the suggestions everyone had to see which ones he would be willing to try.

I do get more from being with him than without him. I enjoy a thousand different things that we do together throughout our day, be it big or small. He makes me strive to be a better person just being with him. I know he loves me, he is just kinda clueless about women and emotions in general.


That's awesome, Delva. Good luck.

From the posts you've made in here, it sounds like you're having a bad year so far. I hope things get better soon. Smiley: flowers
#67 Apr 05 2011 at 10:18 AM Rating: Good
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Delva wrote:
Thanks guys. Each and every one of you. I'm sorry if I didn't seem to support your suggestions, but we agreed to try all of them, the last being counseling if all else fails. Y'all are the greatest!


Hey, no worries. What's really going on in a relationship is bigger than I can guess at from the clues in a single thread, or thirty threads. I don't know you, I don't know him, I don't really know how you two interact at all. I'm not a professional counsellor. I just hoped to throw some ideas into the wind, to let you know you were being listened to, and that you're not alone in the sorts of things you're going through.

Life is complex and difficult, but sometimes that can be when it's best, or when the best things come fro it. =)
#68 Apr 05 2011 at 3:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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Delva wrote:
Big improvement! We sat down and I asked him what about my demeanor, tone, or language sets him off. He said when I get upset, I tend to shut down and become apathetic. That makes him angry. I asked him if it would be easier talking about this through text of some sort. He said it might be and I asked him if he would be willing to try talking on messenger again. He said we could give it another go. I told him that when he calls the things I am upset about stupid or silly, it makes me angry and it makes it harder for me to be reasonable. I told him that in order for me to keep talking to him about these things, something has to change otherwise I will shut him out completely. He doesn't want that to happen so we both agreed to try and limit the things we do during our conversations that **** the other one off. We sat down and I read all the suggestions everyone had to see which ones he would be willing to try.

I do get more from being with him than without him. I enjoy a thousand different things that we do together throughout our day, be it big or small. He makes me strive to be a better person just being with him. I know he loves me, he is just kinda clueless about women and emotions in general.

Thanks guys. Each and every one of you. I'm sorry if I didn't seem to support your suggestions, but we agreed to try all of them, the last being counseling if all else fails. Y'all are the greatest!


Just read through the thread. Good to hear that things are going better. Smiley: smile

Just one small caveat that I'd like to add:

In my experience, these things will come up again, in spite of any conversation or effort that you put into getting past them. Nothing wrong with that though; it's natural. I find that the kinds of personal foibles and flaws which produce relationship issues don't go away easy or quickly. They flare up again from time to time no matter what. You just have to go into things with the knowledge that they will, so that you have reasonable expectations of the relationship, and so that you're more level-headed when you take a step backwards.

In my relationship, I'm more patient, passive, and lazy, while my girlfriend is more organized yet susceptible to undue stress and anxiousness. Most of our fights run along that line somewhere (say, she might be mad at me for dragging my feet about getting something done on a deadline). We try to make them constructive fights when they happen, and to learn from them. But all the same, I can pretty much guarantee that we'll have another fight that stems from my laziness sometime later on down the line. Laziness isn't an easy problem to fix...it's really a deep seeded aspect of oneself. I just try to make baby steps and listen to her concerns about it. Same for her about her own issues.

As with most things, communication is key, I guess.

Edited, Apr 5th 2011 5:13pm by Eske
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