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#27 Feb 10 2011 at 9:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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Heh, we got a pretty good scare letter involving the whole Hurt Locker torrent thing where our ISP was subpoenaed by the producer to get our real info. That seems a little more serious and Im interested to see if anything comes of it. Also interested to know how they can charge a person with anything. Since there is really no saying who was using my router to DL it.
technically if you own it it is your responsibility to secure it. If you don't, I'm pretty sure any illegal going-ons are on your head.


I also believe this is the case, and would probably hold up if they took you to court.


Im not so sure. I could have it plenty secure but there's still X number of people in the house using the internet.

My name is the one the ISP has, but i didnt DL it.
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#28 Feb 10 2011 at 10:00 AM Rating: Good
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Oh boy, now downloading a torrent is "stealing."


If it's copyrighted material, yes.



And I already own two copies?


Then download it from the source as previously mentioned.

Claiming that you didn't know isn't a plausible defense.
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#29 Feb 10 2011 at 10:03 AM Rating: Decent
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Killienmage wrote:
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Oh boy, now downloading a torrent is "stealing."


If it's copyrighted material, yes.



And I already own two copies?


Then download it from the source as previously mentioned.

Claiming that you didn't know isn't a plausible defense.


How so? I didn't know you could download it from their website until after I made this thread and people mentioned it thereafter.
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#30 Feb 10 2011 at 10:04 AM Rating: Default
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nvm...

Edited, Feb 10th 2011 11:04am by Driftwood
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#31 Feb 10 2011 at 10:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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Oh boy, now downloading a torrent is "stealing."


I just said that yes it is if it's copyrighted.

I can't be blamed for the answer I gave because you didn't know before hand.

I'm sorry that your interwebs were cut off for a few. I'm glad that you learned that you can download the client straight from the source.

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#32 Feb 10 2011 at 10:15 AM Rating: Good
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#33 Feb 10 2011 at 10:59 AM Rating: Good
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Kuwoobie wrote:
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Oh boy, now downloading a torrent is "stealing."


If it's copyrighted material, yes.



And I already own two copies?


I own a whole slew of DVD's. Is it ok if I go to Wal-Mart and take a copy of one of the DVD's simply because I was careless and lost my own copy?
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#34 Feb 10 2011 at 11:04 AM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Kuwoobie wrote:
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Oh boy, now downloading a torrent is "stealing."


If it's copyrighted material, yes.



And I already own two copies?


I own a whole slew of DVD's. Is it ok if I go to Wal-Mart and take a copy of one of the DVD's simply because I was careless and lost my own copy?


Yes, it's only a Walmart.
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#35 Feb 10 2011 at 11:34 AM Rating: Decent
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Shaowstrike the Shady wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Kuwoobie wrote:
Killienmage wrote:
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Oh boy, now downloading a torrent is "stealing."


If it's copyrighted material, yes.



And I already own two copies?


I own a whole slew of DVD's. Is it ok if I go to Wal-Mart and take a copy of one of the DVD's simply because I was careless and lost my own copy?


Yes, it's only a Walmart.


This.
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#36 Feb 10 2011 at 2:02 PM Rating: Decent
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KTurner wrote:
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Heh, we got a pretty good scare letter involving the whole Hurt Locker torrent thing where our ISP was subpoenaed by the producer to get our real info. That seems a little more serious and Im interested to see if anything comes of it. Also interested to know how they can charge a person with anything. Since there is really no saying who was using my router to DL it.
technically if you own it it is your responsibility to secure it. If you don't, I'm pretty sure any illegal going-ons are on your head.


I also believe this is the case, and would probably hold up if they took you to court.


Im not so sure. I could have it plenty secure but there's still X number of people in the house using the internet.

My name is the one the ISP has, but i didnt DL it.


Yes, but I feel like you would still be responsible for those people and how they use the internet. Or you could just turn them in, that might work too. But someone there is at fault :P.

Not that I actually have any understanding of the law, this is just what would make sense to me. Not that laws actually make sense...
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#37 Feb 10 2011 at 2:40 PM Rating: Good
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im really not concerned with it, i wouldnt be surprised if i never hear anything else from them.
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#38REDACTED, Posted: Feb 15 2011 at 4:37 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) It's called capitalism at its best and it is a beautiful thing and you should embrace it. It is the same reason Wal-mart is the only company in the entire world that has the power to force an entire country to open its import/export books before they open a store there.
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#39 Feb 15 2011 at 9:22 AM Rating: Good
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Kinda glad that idiot bumped this, as I was coming to post this article:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/02/court-confirms-ip-addresses-arent-people-and-p2p-lawyers-know-it.ars

It's about a UK court case, but still relevant.

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Just because some lawyer cites an Internet Protocol (IP) address where illegal file sharing may have taken place, that doesn't mean that the subscriber living there necessarily did the dirty deed. Or is responsible for others who may have done it.
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