So our email isn't working here at work. We use Micrsoft Outlook (booo). Our new IT people have said that the Microsoft Server is down nationwide.
Is that even possible...? I'm not sure I believe that.
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Your IT guy is an idiot.
Edit: It is possible that he meant your company mail server is down across all offices, assuming you're a multi-homed corporation with several branch offices and stuff, but from what I've read, I don't think that's the case.
Edited, Jan 14th 2011 1:25pm by BrownDuck
Edit: It is possible that he meant your company mail server is down across all offices, assuming you're a multi-homed corporation with several branch offices and stuff, but from what I've read, I don't think that's the case.
Edited, Jan 14th 2011 1:25pm by BrownDuck
What? Isn't outlook an email client?
BrownDuck wrote:
Your IT guy is an idiot.
Edit: It is possible that he meant your company mail server is down across all offices, assuming you're a multi-homed corporation with several branch offices and stuff, but from what I've read, I don't think that's the case.
Edited, Jan 14th 2011 1:25pm by BrownDuck
Edit: It is possible that he meant your company mail server is down across all offices, assuming you're a multi-homed corporation with several branch offices and stuff, but from what I've read, I don't think that's the case.
Edited, Jan 14th 2011 1:25pm by BrownDuck
We do not have multiple offices. There are six people in our office, and this is all we go.
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
What? Isn't outlook an email client?
It is. And we're using the Microsoft server. I assumed it was called the Microsoft outlook server, but perhaps that's foolish. All I know is it says down in the bottom that it's trying to connect to the server, and it can't.
You guys probably lease usage on an Exchange server, so yes it is possible if that server went down everyone else who uses that server would go down.
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Iamadam the Malefic wrote:
You guys probably lease usage on an Exchange server, so yes it is possible if that server went down everyone else who uses that server would go down.
Beat me to it.
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Shaowstrike the Shady wrote:
Iamadam the Malefic wrote:
You guys probably lease usage on an Exchange server, so yes it is possible if that server went down everyone else who uses that server would go down.
Beat me to it.
The beatings will continue until your posting speed improves.
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
There are six people in our office, and this is all we go.
Then your IT guy probably isn't really an "IT" guy. Also, what Adam said.
Iamadam the Malefic wrote:
You guys probably lease usage on an Exchange server, so yes it is possible if that server went down everyone else who uses that server would go down.
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Well, I can assure you that all of Microsoft's servers aren't down. :P
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Uglysasquatch wrote:
And even though I'm not a tech person, I knew that when Stubs, who gets paid for computer work, didn't. If I were his employer, I'd be pissed.
It's not all that different from what I said, really. Just change "your company" to "your e-mail hosting company" or something like that.
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BrownDuck wrote:
Uglysasquatch wrote:
And even though I'm not a tech person, I knew that when Stubs, who gets paid for computer work, didn't. If I were his employer, I'd be pissed.
It's not all that different from what I said, really. Just change "your company" to "your e-mail hosting company" or something like that.
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Iamadam the Malefic wrote:
You guys probably lease usage on an Exchange server, so yes it is possible if that server went down everyone else who uses that server would go down.
Hmm. Ok. So we're at the mercy of Microsoft? I don't like how that sounds...
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Iamadam the Malefic wrote:
You guys probably lease usage on an Exchange server, so yes it is possible if that server went down everyone else who uses that server would go down.
Hmm. Ok. So we're at the mercy of Microsoft? I don't like how that sounds...
No, you're at the mercy of the company that hosts the Exchange server.
Although, we're all at the mercy of Microsoft if you think about it.
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Iamadam the Malefic wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Iamadam the Malefic wrote:
You guys probably lease usage on an Exchange server, so yes it is possible if that server went down everyone else who uses that server would go down.
Hmm. Ok. So we're at the mercy of Microsoft? I don't like how that sounds...
No, you're at the mercy of the company that hosts the Exchange server.
Although, we're all at the mercy of Microsoft if you think about it.
I use Hotmail and MSN on Linux.
The really fun part of hosted servers, is depending on how down "down" is, every incoming e-mail any of your clients is trying to send you right now has likely evaporated without a trace. They probably won't even get a delivery failure. Hundreds of clients could have e-mailed you during that outage and all those e-mails will go unanswered for all time...
Either your IT guy is an idiot, or whoever is paying your IT bills is cheap.
Either your IT guy is an idiot, or whoever is paying your IT bills is cheap.
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BrownDuck wrote:
Your IT guy is an idiot.
Edit: It is possible that he meant your company mail server is down across all offices, assuming you're a multi-homed corporation with several branch offices and stuff, but from what I've read, I don't think that's the case.
Edited, Jan 14th 2011 1:25pm by BrownDuck
Edit: It is possible that he meant your company mail server is down across all offices, assuming you're a multi-homed corporation with several branch offices and stuff, but from what I've read, I don't think that's the case.
Edited, Jan 14th 2011 1:25pm by BrownDuck
Your IT guy is a ******* idiot.
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
The really fun part of hosted servers, is depending on how down "down" is, every incoming e-mail any of your clients is trying to send you right now has likely evaporated without a trace. They probably won't even get a delivery failure. Hundreds of clients could have e-mailed you during that outage and all those e-mails will go unanswered for all time...
Either your IT guy is an idiot, or whoever is paying your IT bills is cheap.
Either your IT guy is an idiot, or whoever is paying your IT bills is cheap.
This is exactly what happened on our end a week ago. Because of this, we ended up having quite a few things fall through the cracks and man oh mann for a lawyer to miss something because the email wasn't working is like walking into a courtroom without your pants on and the judge declaring that you're going to jail for indecent exposure and because you have a small *****.
Thumbelyna Quick Hands wrote:
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
The really fun part of hosted servers, is depending on how down "down" is, every incoming e-mail any of your clients is trying to send you right now has likely evaporated without a trace. They probably won't even get a delivery failure. Hundreds of clients could have e-mailed you during that outage and all those e-mails will go unanswered for all time...
Either your IT guy is an idiot, or whoever is paying your IT bills is cheap.
Either your IT guy is an idiot, or whoever is paying your IT bills is cheap.
This is exactly what happened on our end a week ago. Because of this, we ended up having quite a few things fall through the cracks and man oh man for a lawyer to miss something because the email wasn't working is like walking into a courtroom without your pants on and the judge declaring that you're going to jail for indecent exposure and because you have a small *****.
Female judge in your example?
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Shaowstrike the Shady wrote:
Thumbelyna Quick Hands wrote:
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
The really fun part of hosted servers, is depending on how down "down" is, every incoming e-mail any of your clients is trying to send you right now has likely evaporated without a trace. They probably won't even get a delivery failure. Hundreds of clients could have e-mailed you during that outage and all those e-mails will go unanswered for all time...
Either your IT guy is an idiot, or whoever is paying your IT bills is cheap.
Either your IT guy is an idiot, or whoever is paying your IT bills is cheap.
This is exactly what happened on our end a week ago. Because of this, we ended up having quite a few things fall through the cracks and man oh man for a lawyer to miss something because the email wasn't working is like walking into a courtroom without your pants on and the judge declaring that you're going to jail for indecent exposure and because you have a small *****.
Female judge in your example?
Why couldn't it be a male judge?
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
whoever is paying your IT bills is cheap.
Most likely this.
That said, in their defense, it doesn't make sense to have a dedicated Exchange environment for an office of ~10 people.
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Thumbelyna Quick Hands wrote:
Shaowstrike the Shady wrote:
Thumbelyna Quick Hands wrote:
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
The really fun part of hosted servers, is depending on how down "down" is, every incoming e-mail any of your clients is trying to send you right now has likely evaporated without a trace. They probably won't even get a delivery failure. Hundreds of clients could have e-mailed you during that outage and all those e-mails will go unanswered for all time...
Either your IT guy is an idiot, or whoever is paying your IT bills is cheap.
Either your IT guy is an idiot, or whoever is paying your IT bills is cheap.
This is exactly what happened on our end a week ago. Because of this, we ended up having quite a few things fall through the cracks and man oh man for a lawyer to miss something because the email wasn't working is like walking into a courtroom without your pants on and the judge declaring that you're going to jail for indecent exposure and because you have a small *****.
Female judge in your example?
Why couldn't it be a male judge?
The male judge would be more likely to have sympathy due to being in the same boat.
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"We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
The really fun part of hosted servers, is depending on how down "down" is, every incoming e-mail any of your clients is trying to send you right now has likely evaporated without a trace. They probably won't even get a delivery failure. Hundreds of clients could have e-mailed you during that outage and all those e-mails will go unanswered for all time...
This shouldn't happen, unless the sending mail server isn't configured to prevent it. The outgoing server from wherever all the source emails are coming from *should* spool the email until it gets a received confirmation from the target server. Of course, some cheap email services don't do this (cause they're cheap or even "free"), so those emails are lost if not caught at the other end. But nobody should be using those services for anything important.
Any reasonable business should make sure to cache both incoming and outgoing email. Actually, for a law firm (like in Thumb's case), it's becoming a near necessity`not just to cache them, but to never delete them (they get archived in a database instead). Court rulings in the last few years have disallowed legal documents sent electronically without sufficient trail to prove when and where they were sent. This means that you *must* use an archiving database with internally coded timestamps in order to ensure the authenticity of your documents.
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