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#27 Dec 20 2010 at 9:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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That's a really good idea, Al! The best I've done is gotten some sriracha hot sauce for my boss, because she let me borrow her bottle a few times during the year.

... I figure it'll stay in the fridge here and I'll just use it next year as well Smiley: grin
#28 Dec 20 2010 at 7:12 PM Rating: Good
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The visa gift cards at Safeway I picked up had a 3.95 activation fee that had to be payed plus the card face value.

(Yes the card went back in the rack and a non activation one was picked.)
#29 Dec 20 2010 at 7:23 PM Rating: Good
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gift cards have activation fees? =/


Many do like the Mall here. I guess they don't make money off a generic mall gift card spent in any of the stores or more likely they are greedy bastards and want to make more... I stopped buying mall gift cards.
#30 Dec 20 2010 at 7:29 PM Rating: Excellent
Technically they lose money by selling gift cards, but i assume when people get them, they generally spend than they recieved from the gift card, so the stores make money through the extra purchases. Since generic visa gift cards can be spent anywhere, they don't get that advantage, which is probably why they usually have an activation fee.
#31 Dec 20 2010 at 9:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
Technically they lose money by selling gift cards

What? Gift cards are easy money for businesses. They're a genius invention really.
#32 Dec 20 2010 at 9:22 PM Rating: Good
Allegory wrote:
Grand Master Leatherworker ThePsychoticO wrote:
Technically they lose money by selling gift cards
What? Gift cards are easy money for businesses. They're a genius invention really.
What i meant was the one item is sold at a loss, since they sell them at face value, and although they're cheap, they are free to make, so that's a loss. They make money because people are then forced to go to the store, and while they're there they spend much more than was lost from the cost of producing the card, as i said before.
#33 Dec 20 2010 at 9:44 PM Rating: Good
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The cost of the card and maintaining the service is entirely negligible. Gift cards do two very important things that businesses desperately want.

They guarantee revenue, since they are generally non-refundable. So a purchase of a $20 dollar gift card is $20 in sales that might not have otherwise occurred. It's the same reason companies encourage consumer to buy in bulk.

Second, and more importantly, it's a source of cash for the company. Having cash advances is a huge benefit for a company, because they can use it to reduce costs by offering advances to suppliers or they can invest it and generate interest.

And lastly--somewhat a minor contribution--people occasionally do not use gift cards, which is almost entirely profit.
#34 Dec 20 2010 at 9:58 PM Rating: Decent
You have entirely missed my point.
#35 Dec 20 2010 at 10:23 PM Rating: Good
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I didn't, I'm suggesting that neither of the factors you listed is significant. Well, getting people into the store which is a byproduct of your spend more point is fairly significant. Still there are other huge benefits that deserve consideration.

Edited, Dec 20th 2010 10:25pm by Allegory
#36 Dec 20 2010 at 10:33 PM Rating: Decent
Still, you missed my point. I was giving a quick, simple explanation for why the store specific gift cards never have an activation fee, but the generic visa gift cards do.
#37 Dec 26 2010 at 11:21 PM Rating: Default
That's actually a pretty good idea. I would definitely do that... if people actually gave me presents. *sniff sniff
#38 Dec 27 2010 at 10:27 AM Rating: Good
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My generation in my family has realized the futility of trying to get gifts for every member in our family. It could beyond expensive, even if we just tried to buy $5 gift cards to Starbucks for everyone, that could still easily get to $1,000. So our system has evolved to gifts to immediate family and our grandmother and favored cousins (and you pretty much know who you're going to get gifts from). And smallish gifts to your own godchildren.

And since we always see each other throughout the year, we've been known to just get a "just because" gift as in "Hey, saw this at the mall and thought you'd like it."

It works. So far.
#39 Dec 27 2010 at 10:49 AM Rating: Good
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Thumbelyna Quick Hands wrote:
My generation in my family has realized the futility of trying to get gifts for every member in our family. It could beyond expensive, even if we just tried to buy $5 gift cards to Starbucks for everyone, that could still easily get to $1,000. So our system has evolved to gifts to immediate family and our grandmother and favored cousins (and you pretty much know who you're going to get gifts from). And smallish gifts to your own godchildren.

And since we always see each other throughout the year, we've been known to just get a "just because" gift as in "Hey, saw this at the mall and thought you'd like it."

It works. So far.
Since there are no young children in my family anymore, we've stopped doing gifts for all the nieces and nephews and Godchildren, and implemented a $10-20 Yankee swap, so each person only has to buy one gift. Of course, this works well because the gatherings are usually under 20 people.

Of course, my grandmother also does a blind Yankee swap with things she's accumulated over the year, such as credit union beach towels, bungee cords, etc. We do the swap like you normally would, but without unwrapping the gifts until after it's over. It's usually a ton of fun.

Edited, Dec 27th 2010 11:49am by Spoonless
#40 Dec 27 2010 at 1:00 PM Rating: Good
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Spoonless wrote:
Since there are no young children in my family anymore, we've stopped doing gifts for all the nieces and nephews and Godchildren, and implemented a $10-20 Yankee swap, so each person only has to buy one gift. Of course, this works well because the gatherings are usually under 20 people.

Of course, my grandmother also does a blind Yankee swap with things she's accumulated over the year, such as credit union beach towels, bungee cords, etc. We do the swap like you normally would, but without unwrapping the gifts until after it's over. It's usually a ton of fun.



I would love to have a family gathering of less than 20 people. Under 20 is a tiny family party. 40-60 is mediumish and it's normal to have something close to 100 at a gathering.

Yeah, that's how we Filipinos roll.
#41 Dec 27 2010 at 3:43 PM Rating: Good
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Allegory wrote:
Second, and more importantly, it's a source of cash for the company. Having cash advances is a huge benefit for a company, because they can use it to reduce costs by offering advances to suppliers or they can invest it and generate interest.
Many companies keep the funds from gift cards in escrow accounts until the value is actually used, so it's not really a cash advance.
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#42 Dec 27 2010 at 6:13 PM Rating: Good
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Thumbelyna Quick Hands wrote:
I would love to have a family gathering of less than 20 people. Under 20 is a tiny family party. 40-60 is mediumish and it's normal to have something close to 100 at a gathering.

Yeah, that's how we Filipinos roll.
If my entire family on my mom's side gathers, including boyfriends and girlfriends there's still only 17 people.
#43 Dec 27 2010 at 7:27 PM Rating: Good
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Thumbelyna Quick Hands wrote:
I would love to have a family gathering of less than 20 people. Under 20 is a tiny family party. 40-60 is mediumish and it's normal to have something close to 100 at a gathering.

Yeah, that's how we Filipinos roll.


That's not a party that's a small riot.
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#44 Dec 28 2010 at 2:24 AM Rating: Good
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Thumbelyna Quick Hands wrote:
I would love to have a family gathering of less than 20 people. Under 20 is a tiny family party. 40-60 is mediumish and it's normal to have something close to 100 at a gathering.

Yeah, that's how we Filipinos roll.
If my entire family on my mom's side gathers, including boyfriends and girlfriends there's still only 17 people.
If my entire family gets together, the cops will probably get called.
#45 Dec 28 2010 at 10:44 AM Rating: Good
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Shaowstrike the Shady wrote:
Thumbelyna Quick Hands wrote:
I would love to have a family gathering of less than 20 people. Under 20 is a tiny family party. 40-60 is mediumish and it's normal to have something close to 100 at a gathering.

Yeah, that's how we Filipinos roll.


That's not a party that's a small riot.


Smiley: lol When Ray and I first got married, there was a family get together for my grandmother and the look on his face when he saw all these short tanned people converging on us for kisses, hugs and other signs of familial love was hysterical. And he still didn't meet the entire family.

To this day, after almost 14 years, he still can't remember everyone's names. And it doesn't help that many of us have the same names, but we all carry different nicknames. It's so confusing for him.
#48 Dec 31 2010 at 7:36 AM Rating: Good
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So, the burning questions is: How many gift cards did you purchase, and how many did you actually give away? I'm going to guess you purchased 5 but only gave away 1.
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#49 Dec 31 2010 at 10:53 AM Rating: Decent
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I purchased 7 in expectation, gave out 3. Technically only 2, I got hit up by a coworker and a college buddy. The third one went to a long time friend who has always been fluctuating on whether we do gifts or not, but her gift ended up being belated and she had the courtesy to tell me about it, so I spent the gift card on an actual gift for her.

It was a little excessive, but I felt more confident this year. Not being able to return people's affections in any form is a nightmare problem for me, and so this has probably extended my lifespan by ten years.
#50 Dec 31 2010 at 10:58 AM Rating: Good
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Cool. You can go ahead and mail the other 4 to me.
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#51 Dec 31 2010 at 2:08 PM Rating: Good
Allegory wrote:
I purchased 7 in expectation, gave out 3. Technically only 2, I got hit up by a coworker and a college buddy. The third one went to a long time friend who has always been fluctuating on whether we do gifts or not, but her gift ended up being belated and she had the courtesy to tell me about it, so I spent the gift card on an actual gift for her.

It was a little excessive, but I felt more confident this year. Not being able to return people's affections in any form is a nightmare problem for me, and so this has probably extended my lifespan by ten years.


I guess this is a bad time to mention it, but I love you.

Edited, Dec 31st 2010 8:09pm by Kavekk
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