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#1 Oct 21 2010 at 7:08 PM Rating: Good
So we've had the piracy threads. I'm curious. Aside from "not being poor," what would make you buy more music? Downloading or a physical CD, doesn't matter. What would motivate you to buy it instead of downloading it for free? Is money all that holds you back, or do you think it should just be free?
#2 Oct 21 2010 at 7:15 PM Rating: Good
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money is pretty much the only thing stopping me.

If I had free access to the itunes store... oh god...
#3 Oct 21 2010 at 7:18 PM Rating: Good
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I either buy it off of iTunes or rip it off of YouTube videos. I don't mind buying it if it's a band I really like, and I know they're not corporate whores.

I just bought the OK GO CD, for example. When they were on sale for $1.

ETA: It's funny you ask this right now, btw. I'm in the process of updating my iPod for my trip. :)

Edited, Oct 21st 2010 8:19pm by AshOnMyTomatoes
#4 Oct 21 2010 at 7:53 PM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
So we've had the piracy threads. I'm curious. Aside from "not being poor," what would make you buy more music? Downloading or a physical CD, doesn't matter. What would motivate you to buy it instead of downloading it for free? Is money all that holds you back, or do you think it should just be free?


Only time I pirate music is when iTunes don't have it. I'm not about to pay for a whole CD when I only want one song.
#5 Oct 21 2010 at 8:10 PM Rating: Good
I'm just wondering, aside from make good music, if there was anything a band or artist could do to make you more likely to purchase instead of "pirating" their music. Just something I've been thinking about.
#6 Oct 21 2010 at 8:12 PM Rating: Good
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Princess ShadorVIII wrote:

I'm not about to pay for a whole CD when I only want one song.


This.

As for what gets me to buy music, usually if I've liked at least 3 songs off the album I will buy it. I do tend to prefer cd's over mp3s though. I really like the cases, album art (if there is any), plus I am such a loser that I usually read the special thanks and all the credits.

Belkira the Tulip wrote:
I'm just wondering, aside from make good music, if there was anything a band or artist could do to make you more likely to purchase instead of "pirating" their music. Just something I've been thinking about.


Keycodes for something on their website? Even just a code for a 10% off a purchase of Tshirts or concert tickets?

Edited, Oct 21st 2010 9:14pm by Dyadem
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Dyadem wrote:
Princess ShadorVIII wrote:

I'm not about to pay for a whole CD when I only want one song.


This.

As for what gets me to buy music, usually if I've liked at least 3 songs off the album I will buy it. I do tend to prefer cd's over mp3s though. I really like the cases, album art (if there is any), plus I am such a loser that I usually read the special thanks and all the credits.


I should add that, once I like a particular genre or a particular artist, I am more likely to buy an album, either as a digital download or a CD. For instance, celtic anything, scottish anything, native american anything, anything by Enya, Yanni, Billy Joel, or Wierd Al I would probably buy without even hearing beforehand (there may be a couple other artists, too, but you get the idea).
#8 Oct 21 2010 at 8:36 PM Rating: Good
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O'hai there. Bagpipes? Or Glasvegas? Just curious.

As for paying for music, I like to have the actual disc, and if I'm not willing to pay for the CD, I obviously don't like it that much, so I probably won't even bother torrenting it.

Edited, Oct 21st 2010 10:37pm by Sgriob
#9 Oct 21 2010 at 8:42 PM Rating: Good
Dyadem wrote:
Keycodes for something on their website? Even just a code for a 10% off a purchase of Tshirts or concert tickets?

Edited, Oct 21st 2010 9:14pm by Dyadem


Hm. That's a good idea. Do a lot of artists do that already?
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O'hai there. Bagpipes? Or Glasvegas? Just curious.


Bagpipes.
#11 Oct 21 2010 at 9:26 PM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Dyadem wrote:
Keycodes for something on their website? Even just a code for a 10% off a purchase of Tshirts or concert tickets?

Edited, Oct 21st 2010 9:14pm by Dyadem


Hm. That's a good idea. Do a lot of artists do that already?


Not that I know of. It has been over 6 months since I bought a new cd though. I also recall that some cd's themselves have pc/online content. Sometimes they are recordings, photos, random things that went into making the album.
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#12 Oct 21 2010 at 10:08 PM Rating: Good
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Once I get some of my original stuff recorded in decent quality, I plan on giving away for free and asking for donations. I believe Radiohead took this approach. It's a honorable thing and would bring in money, but I'm not sure if it's the best approach if money is the main goal.
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Once I get some of my original stuff recorded in decent quality, I plan on giving away for free and asking for donations. I believe Radiohead took this approach. It's a honorable thing and would bring in money, but I'm not sure if it's the best approach if money is the main goal.


NIN did this (aside from the donations) with their album "The Slip". In fact the website and download link are still up, on one page it says it's indefinite too. Plus you could order the cd/dvd combo if you wanted.

More artists need to start doing this.
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#14 Oct 22 2010 at 1:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah Radiohead had it set on website as a "pay what you feel like paying" deal. Trent did the same thing but he also gave out the songs in a format allowing easy editing so people could remix it if they wanted to without much hassle.


Personally I prefer to buy CD of bands I like even if the tracks suck, its the whole collector thing. If I like a song but don't really care for the band I will just buy the one track. The recording industry sucks and I would rather the money go direct to artists instead of the RmafIAA but I am not about to skip paying for it just because I don't like how the money gets distributed.
#15 Oct 22 2010 at 1:18 AM Rating: Good
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I just recently bought two CD+DVD sets for my favorite Japanese bands: Stereopony and YUI.

I already had their newest songs torrented, but I was really looking forward to the DVDs. They were worth it for me.
They had live performances of Stereopony from two concerts, and official music videos for YUI.

Edited, Oct 22nd 2010 1:23am by Kirby
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#16 Oct 22 2010 at 2:39 AM Rating: Good
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The only reason I pirate music is because I simply can't afford to buy all the music I want.
And if I have some money left over I'll go hunt for bargains in the CD store and buy some CD's that I might already have downloaded but still want as an actual CD.
#17 Oct 22 2010 at 6:43 AM Rating: Good
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I pretty much would not buy a CD unless it was a good one I found used. My car destroys them, and in a stunning coup de grace, I then sit on them. Hooking up an mp3 player or a flash drive to my stereo's USB port is much more convenient, anyway.

I pirate because it's more convenient and I'll pretty much always find V0 or 320 rips. I know that I couldn't tell the difference between 256 (or probably even 192) and those, but I like hoarding them.

I also like hoarding FLAC, but I never bother to rip or convert them so I don't know why I even keep them.

Edited, Oct 22nd 2010 7:44am by Sweetums
#18 Oct 22 2010 at 6:52 AM Rating: Good
When I first started exploring the Internet on Dial Up, Napster was a free music downloader at the time so I had constantly gone there to get songs that my minor butt couldn't purchase. I also didn't have chores and I was only 11 so I couldn't work to get any money.

I just figured that's what people do... Download. I don't use Napster anymore but I use Limewire, ect. I do have an IPod (30g) but I haven't used it since 2006 and that was only on the plane from Japan to US when I did. I don't see a point in buying I-Tunes songs if I don't use an MP3 player.

I will buy any CD that Miyavi has. He's my favourite and I love looking at the pictures. The rest of my CD's that I was bought for holidays and birthdays growing up, I have torn off the cover to each album and taped them to my wall. The CD's just sit in the trunk of my car.


I did buy Lady GaGa's CD within the last year. I like every song on it and I had no problem with myself buying it. The only other non-regret purchases I have made buying CD's were the Anti Christ Superstar from Marilyn Manson back in the day, Nirvana, and Linkin Park's. One CD from each band I enjoyed every single song on it.

#19 Oct 22 2010 at 7:07 AM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
what would make you buy more music? Downloading or a physical CD, doesn't matter. What would motivate you to buy it instead of downloading it for free?

Making it literally impossible to download for free.
#20 Oct 22 2010 at 8:12 AM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
So we've had the piracy threads. I'm curious. Aside from "not being poor," what would make you buy more music? Downloading or a physical CD, doesn't matter. What would motivate you to buy it instead of downloading it for free? Is money all that holds you back, or do you think it should just be free?
I don't download music. Either I listen to it on the radio, or I buy the CD. Now movies would have to be them not gouging us with ridiculous prices at the start and then dropping the price by 60-70% later on.
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#21 Oct 22 2010 at 8:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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I feel more inclined to purchase music when it's a band the majority of whose catalog I enjoy (I never buy single tracks) and especially if I've seen them live and have some sort of "connection" to them. Not a deep connection or anything of course but something beyond "Heard 'em on the radio".

Along the same lines, if I felt like the artist was getting the lion's share of the profits, I'd feel more inclined to "support the artist" I like via music purchases. When the perception is that the RIAA or the label is getting most of the take and the artist is making thirty cents on a $17 album purchase, it's hard to get upset about not giving the artist their due. I know this isn't exactly rational in that if the studio doesn't sell albums then they'll stop making albums but so it goes. It's hard to be worried about Warner Music not making any money.

Edited, Oct 22nd 2010 9:30am by Jophiel
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#22 Oct 22 2010 at 8:36 AM Rating: Good
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Along the same lines, if I felt like the artist was getting the lion's share of the profits, I'd feel more inclined to "support the artist" I like via music purchases.


So if you could go on their website and see a breakdown of where the money goes? A lot of artists purchase the product that they sell at shows or on their websites from the record company (unless they have their own record company) at "cost" then when the turn around and sell them, whatever they get at the show or on their website goes directly to them.

If it's on their website, there is probably a percentage going to the company that handles their webstore, though. Unless they handle it themselves, but I think that's pretty rare.
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Yeah, maybe it's just random chance on my part and with the artists I'd be interested in but the few times I've tried to buy a CD off an artist's site, I'd get directed to Amazon.com or the studio label's site or something else that left me thinking I wasn't doing the artist any greater favor than just buying the CD at Best Buy.

I don't know how realistic it is for the artists to handle their own sales since someone has to produce these things, put them onto discs, handle the actual merchanting, etc but the fact remains that no one cares if the label or the RIAA is getting their money and I suspect few people believe they're really materially supporting the artist on an individual basis by buying the music. I'd be better off downloading the album off bittorrent and sending the artist a couple quarters via US Postal Service.
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#24 Oct 22 2010 at 11:40 AM Rating: Good
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I don't buy things the RIAA in it's present form are involved in. I would probably pay for a service that had just about every song in high quality. Like a HQ YouTube.
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What would motivate you to buy it instead of downloading it for free?
The artist. If the entire album is really fuggin good, I'll go buy the CD. I specifically remember when Californication was leaked and I downloaded it and took a listen. The entire album was so damn good that I went and bought it on release date.

Then I heard about how Flea ******* and whined about everybody downloading the leak and I wished I hadn't bought it.
#26 Oct 22 2010 at 4:02 PM Rating: Good
If I think a band is good enough to buy their music, I will buy the CD and give it to someone as a present (because I feel obligated to give gifts to some people and I might as well do both at once). I do not like having more stuff that takes up space. I probably won't have a permanent country of residence until 2018 at the earliest, and emigration is easier with less stuff.

The fact that I don't even have enough money to justify buying clothes is, of course, also a factor. I have about 800 quid now, but I've made arrangements not to get paid anymore this year (all that money will get straight to my savings account in Germany where the money I accidentally have now came from) - I'm trying to set up an online thing that might actually get me enough revenue to pay income tax, but it's high risk so I might not get anything out of it and I won't plan for having money at any point in the next decade. I'd rather spend every penny I get on education and not take on a loan than buy silly things that I don't need.
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