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#1 Oct 11 2010 at 7:47 AM Rating: Good
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So, OOT, I'm looking into getting a credit card. I have never owned one before, and feel I need to get a better hold on getting some credit. What I am wondering is whether I should look into one of the big name companies (e.g. Capital One), or go with a bank here. I'm wary to go with my bank because I think the interest rate will be about 18%, but I honestly haven't looked much into other cards to see how much better they would be. Do I just need to do some research, or are there certain ones I should look at / things I should do first?

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#2 Oct 11 2010 at 7:49 AM Rating: Good
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Vataro wrote:
So, OOT, I'm looking into getting a credit card.
Is this solely for the purpose of building credit?

I personally loathe credit cards because I dislike the idea of people buying stuff they can't actually afford at that time.
#3 Oct 11 2010 at 7:52 AM Rating: Good
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Bardalicious wrote:
Vataro wrote:
So, OOT, I'm looking into getting a credit card.
Is this solely for the purpose of building credit?

I personally loathe credit cards because I dislike the idea of people buying stuff they can't actually afford at that time.
You can use a credit card without going into ludicrous debt, you know

Edited, Oct 11th 2010 8:52am by Sweetums
#4 Oct 11 2010 at 7:53 AM Rating: Good
Credit cards are the devil and I wish I had never gotten my first one. They are EVIL. If you do get one NEVER NEVER NEVER put more on it then you can pay off that month. You are better off trying to get a loan for a car if you can. Even with a high interest rate or a co-signer, at least you have something to show for it and its a fixed term. You won't end up paying for that diet soda you bought back in 2002 for 10 years...
#5 Oct 11 2010 at 7:53 AM Rating: Good
Sweetums wrote:
Bardalicious wrote:
Vataro wrote:
So, OOT, I'm looking into getting a credit card.
Is this solely for the purpose of building credit?

I personally loathe credit cards because I dislike the idea of people buying stuff they can't actually afford at that time.
You can use a credit card without going into ludicrous debt, you know

Edited, Oct 11th 2010 8:52am by Sweetums


Yes but the majority of people don't. Its a good theory though.
#6 Oct 11 2010 at 7:55 AM Rating: Good
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The One and Only toohotforu wrote:
Sweetums wrote:
Bardalicious wrote:
Vataro wrote:
So, OOT, I'm looking into getting a credit card.
Is this solely for the purpose of building credit?

I personally loathe credit cards because I dislike the idea of people buying stuff they can't actually afford at that time.
You can use a credit card without going into ludicrous debt, you know

Edited, Oct 11th 2010 8:52am by Sweetums


Yes but the majority of people don't. Its a good theory though.
I generally hate spending money (even with my debit card, I'm loathe to actually buy things), so I'm planning on getting one just for buyer protection and (piddling) rewards, but I've been too lazy to actually bother.

Edited, Oct 11th 2010 8:55am by Sweetums
#7 Oct 11 2010 at 7:56 AM Rating: Decent
In most cases it's getting harder and harder to get credit cards. If you do get one. Check out the intrest and penalities they charge. Most charge rates that are outragious. Try to get the lowest rate you can and still get the card. Then, do not charge things that you cannot afford to pay off each month. If you keep charging more and more you can get caught into the you can only pay the intrest rut and that get's you into big trouble down the road.

Edited, Oct 11th 2010 9:58am by Tailmon
#8 Oct 11 2010 at 8:05 AM Rating: Good
Sweetums wrote:
I generally hate spending money (even with my debit card, I'm loathe to actually buy things), so I'm planning on getting one just for buyer protection and (piddling) rewards, but I've been too lazy to actually bother.

Edited, Oct 11th 2010 8:55am by Sweetums


My debit card gets me rewards, actually. Well, I get points, and I can "buy" stuff with them. They have a lot of gift cards and you can even get cash put directly into your account with enough points.

I got my first card in college. I would charge my text books to them, and my parents would pay it off. That was all I could use it for. When I got my own place, I would charge stuff on there and pay it off that month.

When my husband and I first got married, he couldn't find a job so we found ourselves charging things like groceries and stuff. Ended up a little over our heads in debt. We managed to get it all paid off, and hardly touch the cards now.
#9 Oct 11 2010 at 8:07 AM Rating: Good
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Lucky :(

Mine doesn't, but I'm happy enough to have free checking that doesn't require Direct Deposit (even though I use Direct Deposit, anyway).
#10 Oct 11 2010 at 8:19 AM Rating: Good
I like my Bank of America one, ~7% interest 10k cap. I pay it off every month now, but it was a lifesaver when I was unemployed for a big and needed to save non-credit money to pay for rent/utilities.
#11 Oct 11 2010 at 8:26 AM Rating: Good
Sweetums wrote:
Lucky :(

Mine doesn't, but I'm happy enough to have free checking that doesn't require Direct Deposit (even though I use Direct Deposit, anyway).


Why would anyone not want direct deposit?

Anyway, Vataro, duder, 18% actually isn't bad for your first card. Everyone wants you to fail, that's important to remember. The differences between some satanic global conglomerate like Capital One and your homey, backwoods credit union are going to be minimal. If you check out local lenders I'd just be extra-wary of "service" fees and annual fees and the like. On the flip-side, you can't abscond under cover of night and burn down Capital One when you finally realize that's the only way out, and sooner or later, that epiphany will hit you like that big dumb ************ in Back to the Future hit that truck full of ****. That was right after Michael J Fox invented skateboards, if you recall correctly, and the big dude's name was Biff, probably. He almost raped Shaky Mike right out of existence. Hope my advice has helped.
#12 Oct 11 2010 at 8:32 AM Rating: Good
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Tailmon wrote:
In most cases it's getting harder and harder to get credit cards.
Not even close.

I get things in the mail on a regular basis asking me to sign up for a credit card.
#13 Oct 11 2010 at 8:42 AM Rating: Good
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It is mainly for the purpose of building credit, yes. I would never buy anything I wouldn't have the money to pay for outright. That being said, it would be ideal for me sometimes to take 3-4 months to pay something off. I would only ever have 1 thing going at a time though if I were to make a big purchase, and pay it off before I bought something else. Which brings me to another question about credit - my understanding is that it is best to not pay something off at once but to show that you can make regular monthly payments on time. Anyone know what the ideal payment would be? 1.5x the minimum? Twice the minimum?
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#14 Oct 11 2010 at 8:49 AM Rating: Decent
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Vataro wrote:
my understanding is that it is best to not pay something off at once but to show that you can make regular monthly payments on time.

False dilemma. I have to leave soon so I can't say too much, but as far as credit score goes it doesn't matter much how quickly you pay something off. Making consistent payments with a credit card and having a low debt to credit limit will be the key ways to use it to raise your credit score.
#15 Oct 11 2010 at 8:51 AM Rating: Good
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A little detail that most people overlook is how long it takes their credit card company to reimburse "holds" that are put on your credit card. The most frequent complaint i come across from people with Credit cards from, typically small, banks, is that if a pre-auth is used (such as at a hotel or car rental) it takes forever for their bank to release the hold (7-10 business days). Which means for the next 7-10 days, your credit limit is affected as if you had purchased whatever the hold amount was for.

As for which specific company/bank to go with, I can't recommend anything as I only have Canadian Institutions to choose from. Royal Bank and Bank of Montreal seem to be good typically, not sure if either has burrowed that far south though. Scotia Bank is bad for being a culprit of the above situation, so should they be in the south, avoid them.
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#16 Oct 11 2010 at 8:56 AM Rating: Good
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Never heard of any of those. The bank I use for my checking and savings accounts is Regions, which I am pretty happy with thus far. There are other banks in the area (Bank of America, First Tennessee - which I think is statewide but obviously not outside of the state), but I'd probably feel more comfortable sticking with the bank I already use unless I get some great deal from another one.
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#17 Oct 11 2010 at 9:17 AM Rating: Good
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Personally, I would recommend against credit cards altogether if you can avoid them. There are other ways to build credit that don't involve the possibility of disgusting amounts of debt or absurd interest rates. I've never had a credit card in my life, but I qualified for an auto loan based on nearly-invisible credit (I believe the only things on my credit record are cell phone bills and community college tuition, which I paid for myself.) My car will be paid off early, which should also help my credit score.
#18 Oct 11 2010 at 9:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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Barkingturtle wrote:
Sweetums wrote:
Lucky :(

Mine doesn't, but I'm happy enough to have free checking that doesn't require Direct Deposit (even though I use Direct Deposit, anyway).


Why would anyone not want direct deposit?

Well, while I was unemployed it was pretty nice.
#19 Oct 11 2010 at 10:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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It is mainly for the purpose of building credit, yes.


I was until recently in the exact same position. Here's what to do. Go to JC Penny, ask for a credit card application, buy a shirt.

Pay off that shirt at the end of the month. Each month, buy something. Socks, boxers, a jacket. Or do like I do, and just put your gas on that credit card. Groceries could work too. No big items! Pay it all off at the end of each month.

As long as the credit card does not have a monthly fee, the interest rate does NOT MATTER. You will never let the bill sit for more than a month. So you will build credit.

After you have good credit (not sure at what point this is...), apply for a good bank card - by "good" I mean something with perks. Yes, your JC Penny Card has perks, but it's something like... $10 gift certificate good for a month if you charge $200 in that month (in other words, it blows). Personally I'd go with something like... airline miles, or... hotel points. Use it for a vacation! The student union at UF has good credit card deals for staff, so I'm planning on opening an account and getting one of those. If that fails, I'll try for one from Bank of America (rejected before because I had no credit history).

You need to be disciplined to make sure you pay your bill each and every month, or you'll get slammed with the interest. But it's an easy way to build up credit.

Edit: And from what I have heard, it's not true that keeping a minimum balance is a good thing. Charging a monthly expense and paying it off, like with a cell phone or utilities, isn't a bad idea either. Just make sure you CAN pay it off each month with no problem.

Edited, Oct 11th 2010 12:51pm by LockeColeMA
#20 Oct 11 2010 at 11:17 AM Rating: Excellent
The one from Target isn't too bad either. They give you "one day of 10% off anything you purchase in the store coupon" right when you sign up, and more of the same every $X spent, so if you have some flexibility in your spending and know you're going to be getting some big ticket stuff you can save quite a bit.
#21 Oct 11 2010 at 11:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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Vataro wrote:
Which brings me to another question about credit - my understanding is that it is best to not pay something off at once but to show that you can make regular monthly payments on time. Anyone know what the ideal payment would be? 1.5x the minimum? Twice the minimum?


That's total ********** Pay it off as soon as you can. By keeping a balance all you're doing it paying interest to the credit card company. The only thing you should be avoiding is maxing your credit line out and making late payments.
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#22 Oct 11 2010 at 12:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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Good to know, thanks for the advice. Sounds like a basic store credit card (maybe even Walmart or Sam's Club?) would be a good choice for now.
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#23 Oct 11 2010 at 1:18 PM Rating: Good
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As someone stated there are other ways to increase credit without signing up for a credit card. If you live in a house or apartment that you are making payments on then that will help increase your credit. I'm not sure if the leasing company has to submit a report for you or if they are supposed to do that anyways. Paying off bills such as gas, electric, cable/internet will help increase your credit score as well.

Here is a little piece I found on how they calculate your credit score.

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The five are:

* Payment history - 35%
* Amounts owed - 30%
* Length of credit history - 15%
* New credit - 10%
* Types of credit used - 10%

It's clear that the single most important factor is your record of paying your bills on time. The number of delinquent accounts and the length of time the account went unpaid also factor into the calculation. Your payment history may also include financial problems that have ended up in court such as bankruptcy or judgments entered against you.


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#24 Oct 11 2010 at 1:20 PM Rating: Good
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I recommend getting a card that you plan on keeping, so stay away from store cards. Your credit rating is also based off your longest standing active credit account, so if you use Wal-mart to build credit, then get something else and cancel the Wal-mart card(as you likely will once you're no longer in need of the card) and somehow that new piece of credit goes south for you, it will hold far more weight than your inactive Wal-Mart account will.
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#25 Oct 11 2010 at 2:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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Vataro wrote:
It is mainly for the purpose of building credit, yes. I would never buy anything I wouldn't have the money to pay for outright. That being said, it would be ideal for me sometimes to take 3-4 months to pay something off.


This is not "ideal" in any meaning of the word. If you can pay something off in 3-4 months, then save the money for 3-4 months ahead of time and buy it outright. Why pay extra on something you can afford anyway?

As others have pointed out, you do not have to carry a balance to build credit. Just buy stuff you would normally buy anyway and pay it off every month. Don't change your spending patterns because you have a credit card. That's the mistake most people get into. They think that since they have this credit line that they can afford more. You can't. You can only really afford what your income allows you to afford. Don't ever forget that!

LockeColeMA wrote:
As long as the credit card does not have a monthly fee, the interest rate does NOT MATTER. You will never let the bill sit for more than a month. So you will build credit.


This x1000!

Here's what you look for. Check to see if there are any sorts of automatic fees (like a yearly premium or whatever). If there are, don't take that card. Get a card that wont cost you a penny just to have and then only put minor regular purchases on it, and pay them off every month. That way the interest rate on the card doesn't matter at all and you wont have to pay a dime while building up your credit.


Obviously, you can play the rewards game as well if you want. But just don't ever think that a credit cards gives you more money. Don't plan purchases around being able to get something now and then pay it back over time. If you can afford to pay X amount per month to pay it back, then you can afford to save X before buying. In the long run, it'll cost you much less money to do it that way. You'll be able to afford more nice things, become fabulously wealthy and retire to an island somewhere or something.
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#26 Oct 11 2010 at 2:21 PM Rating: Good
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LockeColeMA wrote:
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It is mainly for the purpose of building credit, yes.


I was until recently in the exact same position. Here's what to do. Go to JC Penny, ask for a credit card application, buy a shirt.

Pay off that shirt at the end of the month. Each month, buy something. Socks, boxers, a jacket.
This sounds like an awful waste of money if it's not something you buy normally.


Edited, Oct 11th 2010 3:21pm by Sweetums
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