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#27 Aug 09 2010 at 10:42 AM Rating: Decent
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I do not care one way or the other, I just want my baby-back, baby-back, baby-back ribs.
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#28 Aug 09 2010 at 10:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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I noticed that the early answers are gas and the later answers are charcoal. Is that because the gas ones were already done with their meals so they could post?
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#30 Aug 09 2010 at 11:08 AM Rating: Good
Wood.

I already have a gas grill inside the hosue. It's called a stove. Charcole has too many addatives in the bricks that I don't want in my meat.

It's untreated wood chips all the way.
#31 Aug 09 2010 at 11:09 AM Rating: Good
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I was raised on charcoal, so I think I'm supposed to say charcoal.

I probably wouldn't be able to discern a huge difference.
#32 Aug 09 2010 at 11:16 AM Rating: Good
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I was raised on charcoal, so I think I'm supposed to say charcoal.

I probably wouldn't be able to discern a huge difference.
You'd be surprised. The charcoal lends a flavor to meat that you can't get out of gas. When you smell something cooking somewhere on a hot summer day and go "ooh, someone's barbecuing," odds are they're using charcoal.

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#33 Aug 09 2010 at 11:19 AM Rating: Good
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Lady Bardalicious wrote:
I was raised on charcoal, so I think I'm supposed to say charcoal.

I probably wouldn't be able to discern a huge difference.
You'd be surprised. The charcoal lends a flavor to meat that you can't get out of gas. When you smell something cooking somewhere on a hot summer day and go "ooh, someone's barbecuing," odds are they're using charcoal.

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I need two steaks to be cooked for me. One on gas and one on charcoal.

It's the only way for me to solve this mystery.
#34 Aug 09 2010 at 1:43 PM Rating: Good
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Lady Bardalicious wrote:
I need two steaks to be cooked for me. One on gas and one on charcoal.

It's the only way for me to solve this mystery.


This.

Let's use a double blind test with Porterhouse and a Filet Mignon. That's only fair.
#35 Aug 09 2010 at 2:41 PM Rating: Good
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AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
Lady Bardalicious wrote:
I was raised on charcoal, so I think I'm supposed to say charcoal.

I probably wouldn't be able to discern a huge difference.
You'd be surprised. The charcoal lends a flavor to meat that you can't get out of gas. When you smell something cooking somewhere on a hot summer day and go "ooh, someone's barbecuing," odds are they're using charcoal.

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On anything that isn't going to get the long cook treatment(say, minimum cook time of 15-25 minutes or so), I really can't taste the difference as the flavor of the smoke is easily overpowered by the flavor of the meat and the seasonings, so really I don't see the point of using charcoal for something like a steak, burger, or other small piece of meat that's likely to be done in less that 10-12 minutes on the grill.

I'm with you on anything bigger, though, on a strictly flavor perspective, until you get to something big enough that it needs to be bathed in smoke for an extended period of time, at which point, it's time to go ceramic smoker, IMO.
#36 Aug 09 2010 at 2:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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We have a gas grill that's piped directly to the gas line for the house. Can't get much easier than that so gas it is.
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#37 Aug 09 2010 at 2:48 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't get the whole "I'm lazy" argument against charcoal. I have a weber grill and I just line the bottom with foil and put the charcoal on top of that. When I'm done, I pull up the foil and dispose of the entire thing. It takes like 2 minutes. For cleaning the rack, I simply let it heat up while the fire is getting up to temp and then scrub with a wire brush and wipe down with a wet towel. Again, 5 minutes cleanup / prep time tops.


prep and cleanup is longer, but is still only half the issue (less than half really). The bigger issue for most people is the time it takes to get the charcoal to the correct temperature point for even cooking. Depending on the size of the bed, it can easily take 30 minutes for the coals to be ready to cook over. For people who just want to put something on the grill and cook it, gas is much more quick and convenient. And if you're using marinade or rubs, you're going to get a great tasting steak without spending an hour to cook it.

Obviously, gas doesn't add the flavor of the coals to the meat. And as a couple of people have pointed out, if you really want to "do it right", you should use charcoal. But if you don't know what you're doing, you'll probably ***** up the charcoal cooking. I've seen some really bad examples. I never criticize someone feeding me steak, but I've had more than a few effectively ruined because the guy cooking it didn't let the coals settle properly. I suppose some people actually like their steaks burnt on the outside and raw on the inside, but I'm not one of them...

It's easier to cook a "good" steak over a gas grill. It's easier to cook a "bad" steak over charcoal. Obviously, if you're picking the type of grill, I'd hope you know your own skill level and will pick appropriately. But if you're not patient enough to cook over charcoal properly, do your guests a favor and buy a gas grill.
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I suppose some people actually like their steaks burnt on the outside and raw on the inside, but I'm not one of them...

They call those people "men".

Pittsburgh rare
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#39 Aug 09 2010 at 3:08 PM Rating: Good
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If done right a rare Pittsburgh is heaven on a plate. Most casual places can't cook it that way though and it's why I hardly ever order steak.

edit: I don't know why I even mentioned that in a thread about grills.

Edited, Aug 9th 2010 4:09pm by Kaain
#40 Aug 09 2010 at 3:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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Flea cooks steaks like that but, yeah, I wouldn't bother ordering it at the local Applebee's.
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Jophiel wrote:
gbaji wrote:
I suppose some people actually like their steaks burnt on the outside and raw on the inside, but I'm not one of them...

They call those people "men".

Pittsburgh rare


In a large enough population someone's going to give name to someone else's bad cooking and insist that it's a "style". It doesn't make it good.
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gbaji wrote:
It doesn't make it good.

Of course not. It's the awesome taste that makes it good.
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#43 Aug 09 2010 at 3:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
Flea cooks steaks like that but, yeah, I wouldn't bother ordering it at the local Applebee's.


Now I feel like I have to apologize to Flea for calling her cooking "bad". I'm going to assume that she cooks it that way because some crazy person asks her too.

Any sane person knows that a steak should be cooked relatively evenly through. You can have variations of brown to pink (should in fact), but if the outer edge is crispy (not seared, or blackened, but with burnt flakes on it), you're doing something wrong.
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#44 Aug 09 2010 at 3:22 PM Rating: Decent
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Jophiel wrote:
gbaji wrote:
It doesn't make it good.

Of course not. It's the awesome taste that makes it good.


The taste is somewhat reduced by the hard outer shell though, isn't it? I like to chew the whole piece of meat and get the full flavor. If I'm having to chew around a crunchy outer skin, I'm not likely to notice how the steak tastes.
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Don't sweat it. The day I take steak advice from San Diego is the day I might as well give up eating steak ;)
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gbaji wrote:
The taste is somewhat reduced by the hard outer shell though, isn't it?

Not if it's done well.

Look, I don't doubt that whatever steak-cooking monkeys you call friends shouldn't be allowed to microwave a Salisbury steak, much less touch a real cut of meat. I was just quipping off your "I'm sure some people like..." remark. I doubt your companions can cook a steak Pittsburgh rare to save their lives. Especially if they're doing it on a grill.
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#47 Aug 09 2010 at 3:43 PM Rating: Good
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I must ask for this next time at Outback.
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#48 Aug 09 2010 at 3:50 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
It doesn't make it good.

Of course not. It's the awesome taste that makes it good.


Now I want a piece of meat cooked rare.
#49 Aug 09 2010 at 5:15 PM Rating: Decent
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I must ask for this next time at Outback.


They'll probably fail miserably at it. Don't bother asking for it unless you go to real steak house.
#50 Aug 09 2010 at 5:56 PM Rating: Good
gbaji wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
gbaji wrote:
It doesn't make it good.

Of course not. It's the awesome taste that makes it good.


The taste is somewhat reduced by the hard outer shell though, isn't it? I like to chew the whole piece of meat and get the full flavor.


The "hard outer shell" adds texture to the meat, which, let's face it, has very little when eaten at near raw preparation. Also, the charred flavor enhances the internal juiciness of the steak.
#51 Aug 09 2010 at 6:20 PM Rating: Good
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The "hard outer shell" adds texture to the meat, which, let's face it, has very little when eaten at near raw preparation.
Crunchy on the outside, almost as chewy as squid on the inside?

Uck.
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