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SO that last episode, Ya we guessed it by the second episode....They all died in a plain crash and they were in purgatory.

OK so that sums it up for 5-6 years run of LOST. They didn't need to explain everything cause they were all dead.

But i will admit i love how they had everyone reconnect to what had happen to them in purgatory. They did end it well but 6 years... it could have been over in one season. I guess they wanted the audience to be emotionally invested in the characters, witch makes sense for the series to survive 5-6 years and to make a sh*t load of money....

So i guess that's what FFXIV will be doing as well.... I just hope at the end I'm not dead doing it all for nothing..lol

Moved to OOT forum. - Fleven

Edited, May 23rd 2010 11:19pm by Fleven

try this forum, instead.

To me it was the plain crash. you cannot survive it. Second He was in a wheel chair and then he could walk. so that to me was the tip i needed. I agree i thought the last episode was great!! It reminded me of ya i will say it TITANIC. Everyone died before he did and they were all waiting their for him. I thought season 3-5 was a bunch of fluff!!! just a filler till the last season. The last season didn't reveal all the secrets and why they happen but i guess they don't since they were in purgatory and everything doesn't need to be explained. thats just what i thought. how about you?

English: It not just for breakfast anymore.

Ok sorry didn't have time to explain in my other post but now I do so here's the show in a nutshell.

The plane crashed on the Island, the people survived the crash and lived on the Island and discovered its mysteries along with us. The Oceanic 6 eventually left the Island and lived their lives until they decided to come back to the Island and save their friends. Everything that happened up until Jack closes his eye was real and in our world.

The "flash sideways" was a purgatory world the lostees dreamed up and the ones that died waited in limbo for everyone to show up until they were all reunited. This was their ideal world with no island (remember it was under the water), Jack had a relationship with his son he never quite had with his father (remember, Jack doesn't actually have a son), Juliet helping women give birth (successfully), Sawyer and Miles living an honest life as opposed to the corrupt one, Hurley was lucky in everything, Kate was actually innocent, Desmond and Widmore drinking Mcutcheon together, etc. etc. etc. This life was fake, it never existed, but it was a dream world between hell and heaven (so to speak).

Now, remember the plane Jack saw flying overhead before he died? that WASN'T Oceanic 815, it was the plane Lapedis flew off the Island with the few people who were on board - these people, including Hurley and Ben lived on and lived their lives until their time was up. When these people died, our purgatory world became the present - Charlie's near death on the plane made him remember a beautiful blonde woman (Claire) and he told this to Desmond who eventually remembered everything, and from here on out he went out and helped everybody remember, Jack was the last one he helped but (for example) Kate may have died at the age of 100 for all we know yet they waited for her to show up before they all reunited...and once they all remembered and where together once more, there was only forward to go.

I think this is the best imaginable ending I could've hoped for. It wasn't a cop out but it was character driven. Most the mysteries of the Island were answere prior to this episode and I think the few that remained were/are left up in the air for us to make guesses, either way as far as I know the few mysteries remaining are very miniscule that they don't even need to be answered but some people I guess had questions I never bothered asking myself about.

So, there you go, this is what happened...it definitely wasn't all "fake" and they definitely didn't all die in the crash. The show ended when the LOST appeared on screen...the empty beach they showed afterward was homage to the fans and it was this sort of relaxing scene that we grew to love over the years but it was empty...meaning its over (and too bad, i'm gonna miss it).

Edited, May 24th 2010 5:19am by SolidMack

Watch this if you need it somewhat explained.

I interpreted it differently.

The island is real, and they did survive the plane crash. Everything that happened was real.

However, when they died on the island, for whatever reason, that is when their souls entered the flash sideways. Their minds/souls tried to ignore the fact that they were dead by playing out a "What if?" scenario in their minds in their last seconds of life.

Eventually their souls came around to accepting death, one by one (Hurley, Desmond, and Charlie figured it out first; that's why Charlie kept trying to kill himself; he knew he was already dead and that was his way of attempting to accept it)

It wasn't until they had ALL died and they had all ACCEPTED death that they reunited with their fellow crashmates in the Church (just the crashmates; explains why Ben couldn't come, as well as why Widmore/Zoe/The others/The Dharma initiative weren't there).

That's also why when Jack arrived (He was the last one to die on the island as he laid there and his eye closed; he also was the last one to accept the truth in the flash sideways), they said "We've all been waiting for you"

Now the only thing that doesn't explain is why Claire's baby was with her in the Church, or why Sun was still pregnant in the Church.

To say they died in the actual crash leaves more questions than can be resolved, I think; especially questions like how things happened that didn't involve them. If they were really all dead; why the need to show flashbacks of non crashmates (Desmond, for example) or Ben's flash sideways near the end with Alex and her mother, or things like Miles/Frank/Richard working on the plane (or trying to blow it up); if they were characters that "never really existed" then their existence or activity outside of the scope of what teh crash survivors saw them doing was irrelevant.


But that's my interpretation of it anyway.

EDIT: And now that I think of it, I recall an interview round S3/S4ish where the producers dispelled two rumors: 1) No, this isn't a dream; it's real. 2) No, they aren't dead and in Heaven/Hell/Purgatory.

Sure, it's possible they lied, but if we take that at face value, then it lends support to my "They died on the island" theory.

EDIT2: Mack apparently covered this in more detail and I must have missed his post when replying.

Edited, May 26th 2010 1:10pm by Mikhalia

I have to think, considering how integral Hurley and Desmond were in "getting people to see where they needed to go" that Desmond had a hand in "the Jacob loop". Plus, remember the part with Ana Lucia where Hurley says "No dude, she's not ready yet." to Desmond.

Lady Widmore (whose name I'm drawing a blank on right now for some reason) apparently knew what was going on because she even asked Desmond not to tell the people involved what was really going on, and when he did, she tried to talk him out of "taking her son". I was a bit confused at first why he said "He's going, but not with me"; I still don't know where the non-plane crash people (Desmond, Miles, Juliet, Ben, etc) are going/will go/went. One of those things it never explains. Same with why Claire had her newborn baby with her in the church, even though in "the real world", Kate had left a 3 year old Aaron with Claire's grandmother. Same problem with Li Yeon (Sun's baby). Or how Rose and Bernard died. But they said they wouldn't answer everything.

Regarding "how the sideways reality was created"; my best guess was that, in the nanoseconds before an islander died, their mind played back the possibility of "What if I hadn't died in the crash?" and then proceeded to play it out until they realized "I need to stop playing 'what if' and accept that I'm dead. What happened, happened." Even alluded to in S6E1 where Jack is back on the plane (after he died at the end of the final episode) trying to play the "What if?" game and Rose says to him "You need to let go."

LOST: an exercise in making **** up as you go along.