[Poll] Forum Merge?Follow

Make a new newbie forum, close some of those sh*t forums like anime, books etc.

Oh and leave the OOT and Asylum alone.

Edited, May 5th 2009 1:09pm by Lemmi

Nothing wrong with the asylum (other than the name or description), why ruin it?

I don't care what happens to the OOT though as long as it doesn't force people to use forum=4.

Edited, May 5th 2009 12:23pm by bsphil

Well, in all honesty, I have no idea where I'd belong if the forums were merged and a brand new forum emerged from the ashes of the Sandbox. As it is now, I post in both the Asylum and the OOT, but I'm not 100% comfortable in the Asylum.

I think there are quite a few posters like me. They'll venture into the Asylum and make a post or three, comment on something they feel strongly about, poke Varrus, then wander back out and be themselves in here. We could still fit in if there was another new forum that's supposed to be flowers and kittens and rainbows, but we'd miss our more vulgar friends who would be banned from that forum, and we'd constantly be worrying that we'd step over the imaginary line that keeps shifting.

I also think this is a little unfair to some of the Asylum members who don't ever cross the line and post here unless it's just to "poke the moogles," as some of the old school Asylumites still tend to think of us in this forum.

If losing newer forum posters is becoming a problem because the OOT is getting too harsh, I wonder if you've considered how many older posters you'll lose because they don't like what happened to their old forum or they don't feel as if they fit in anymore.

Edited, May 5th 2009 12:44pm by Belkira

It wouldn't bother me too much if the forums merged. That being said, I kind of like the division as it is now. I come to the OOT for **** and fart jokes and I go to the Asylum for the political stuff. Worlds will collide if there's a merge.

Besides, wouldn't this be punishing the Asylum for the deeds of the OOT?

I think merging the Asylum and the OOT and creating a "newbie" forum is retarded. It's exactly the situation we have today. The only difference in practice would be that you would apparently enforce the rules. So why not just do it now? Someone posts something offensive in the OOT, you nuke the post. Isn't this how it's supposed to have been for the last year or so?

I do think the whole situation is pretty retarded. And I agree that Kao handled the situation poorly. From any point of view. From a business perspective, it makes no sense. Boring forums with inane drivel from mundane posters are not the ones which make money or attract people. For every PM that you get complaining about BT or Mindel, there might be 10 people who think their post is great but don't send you a freaking PM about it. Should we? Or can we use just use the arrows like we're supposed to?

I don't care whether you merge the forums, or you rename them, or you just enforce the bloody rules properly. That won't make much difference. But muting people because your control mechanisms are either inadequate, that's pretty ******. And that's the kind of stuff that loses you posters, because I'm not sure how many people would bother to read Senji blogging.

The newbs that come to this forum generally do so through an MMO. I'd call the MMO-specific forums the "newb" forums.

The thing is, the trolling of Senjiow isn't any worse than what goes on in the gaming forums. I find it hard to reason that the OoT should be more heavily moderated than the gaming forums.

Not really seeing as how the most active Asylumites now also post in the OOT.

1. I wouldn't say *most*, and those of us that choose to, CHOOSE to. Whether or not I come by here depends on ratios of boredom to tolerance levels.
2. I read about 1/3 threads in the Asylum. I read about 1/20 in the OOT. That's not a judgment of good or bad, just an illustration of the difference in topic/subject matter and why it's nice to have two different forums.

Nexa

The OoT now is almost what the Asylum was when I first started posting here (which was several years ago, I don't really remember the exact date).

This same sitaution has come up before, and what generally seems to happen is that the admins come and say "Stop it!", a couple people get "punished" things work for a while, and then it just comes back to this because the rules aren't strictly enforced. (I'd like to point out that I chose the word strictly for a reason, they are enforced to the best of the staff's ability, but they need to be consistently and constantly enforced in order to have any effect).

It's not just several posters making fun of newbies here though. It extends to (this is just an example off the top of my head from BT's thread) Katie's almost constant trolling of people she decides she doesn't like. I understand that Katie is probably the most trolled person on this forum, but that doesn't make continuing it in other threads where it doesn't fit at all ok.

People just flat out aren't going to feel comfortable introducing themselves or interacting with a group of people that know each other very well - regardless of the initiation period that exists. I don't really know what the complaints have been that lead to this latest round of OoT drama, but merging forums isn't going to fix this at all. Several members of the current "clique" will leave, many will stay, and the new "OoT" will slowly begin to form a new clique.

You're the one who asked the question turtle-dove, so really it depends on whether or not you feel it's been adequately answered?

Nexa

My good post is in my pants?

It's true that I occasionally feel that the current reactionary set up tends to favor those who abuse the administration while punishing those who utilize the karma system as it was intended. My non ratings are still, in essence, ratings as a non reaction means that I've found nothing particularly compelling in the post to cause my action in either direction.

Nexa