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#1 Oct 13 2007 at 10:20 PM Rating: Good
So I just finished watching a TV program that had so much censoring that I had trouble figuring out what was going on sometimes. Sometimes things were covered, audio was cut out, or entire scenes were blocked by a full screen image.

So how does the OOT feel about censoring things? TV, radio, movies, music? What about censoring changes based on air time? How about censoring things and then removing them for DVDs?
#2 Oct 13 2007 at 10:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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Censoring sucks. END OF STORY.
#3 Oct 13 2007 at 10:21 PM Rating: Good
Fuck censorship. Don't like it, don't watch it, and let me enjoy it in its entirety.
#4 Oct 13 2007 at 10:21 PM Rating: Excellent
I am anti-censorship.

I mean hell, I was exposed to loads of violence, profanity and overt sexuality when I was a kid and I turned out fine.
#5 Oct 13 2007 at 10:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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I am anti-censorship.

I mean hell, I was exposed to loads of violence, profanity and overt sexuality when I was a kid and I turned out fine.




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#6 Oct 13 2007 at 10:22 PM Rating: Decent
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Ultimately I beleive people who censor things are just covering up for the parents who are too lazy to monitor what thier children watch, and decide if its appropriate for them. Nothing says "Censorship" like a parent who decides whats viewable for another persons child.
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#7 Oct 13 2007 at 10:23 PM Rating: Excellent
Censoring is for two types of people:

Those who get their feelings hurt on what is said or shown on the TV, or those who have children but can't be bothered to moniter not only what their children watch, but are to damned lazy to teach them something other than "Get home, sit down, turn on The Electric Babysitter and relax.

#8 Oct 13 2007 at 10:23 PM Rating: Excellent
**** censoring, but, only at specific times and places. Late late night, like after 8 or 10 pm, penises and boobs on tv! Curses flowing like wastewater from a hobo community! Graphic violence the likes of which will quench even the bloodthirstiest of palettes!

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#9 Oct 13 2007 at 10:24 PM Rating: Good
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If the publisher doesn't have the balls to put out the content in the unadulterated form, then I'd rather it not be put out at all. I guess that applies more to music than to a show or something, but even on television or movies, I think that it's pointless. A much less intrusive method of avoiding offense is just not watching offensive things... rather than having some sort of censorship standard.

What show were you watching that had that much censoring anyway?
#10 Oct 13 2007 at 10:26 PM Rating: Decent
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@#%^ censoring, but, only at specific times and places. Late late night, like after 8 or 10 pm, penises and boobs on tv! Curses flowing like wastewater from a hobo community! Graphic violence the likes of which will quench even the bloodthirstiest of palettes!

VIVA LA REVOLUTION! VIVA LA <user was bant for this post>



You do remember your an admin right? Its kinda hard to ban yourself.


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(Two dubiouses in one thread!)
#11 Oct 13 2007 at 10:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Banned yourself for looking at boobs instead of an additional ***** ?
#12 Oct 13 2007 at 10:26 PM Rating: Default
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Fuck censorship. Don't like it, don't watch it, and let me enjoy it in its entirety.


Cookie Monster doesn't censor his words, why should we?!
#13 Oct 13 2007 at 10:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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You do remember your an admin right? Its kinda hard to ban yourself.

No, this makes it easier. I think there was an admin that accidentally banned himself, twice. I wonder if they fixed that? Smiley: lol
#14 Oct 13 2007 at 10:30 PM Rating: Decent
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You do remember your an admin right? Its kinda hard to ban yourself.


Tell that to Justine Nightshadow...

Edited, Oct 14th 2007 2:30am by Pensive
#15 Oct 13 2007 at 10:31 PM Rating: Decent
Lord Justdistaint wrote:
Prom Queen NixNot wrote:
@#%^ censoring, but, only at specific times and places. Late late night, like after 8 or 10 pm, penises and boobs on tv! Curses flowing like wastewater from a hobo community! Graphic violence the likes of which will quench even the bloodthirstiest of palettes!

VIVA LA REVOLUTION! VIVA LA <user was bant for this post>



You do remember your an admin right? Its kinda hard to ban yourself.


Smiley: dubious




(Two dubiouses in one thread!)


I dunno. IN has done it.
#16 Oct 13 2007 at 10:33 PM Rating: Decent
Prom Queen NixNot wrote:
Lord Justdistaint wrote:
You do remember your an admin right? Its kinda hard to ban yourself.

No, this makes it easier. I think there was an admin that accidentally banned himself, twice. I wonder if they fixed that? Smiley: lol
It was J something... Justine? MAybe? I dunno. J-Something.
#17 Oct 13 2007 at 10:43 PM Rating: Good
Pensive wrote:
If the publisher doesn't have the balls to put out the content in the unadulterated form, then I'd rather it not be put out at all. I guess that applies more to music than to a show or something, but even on television or movies, I think that it's pointless. A much less intrusive method of avoiding offense is just not watching offensive things... rather than having some sort of censorship standard.

What show were you watching that had that much censoring anyway?
Um...this.
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Japanese censorship is, like, completely @#%^ing random though. But it got me thinking about it all.

Edited, Oct 13th 2007 11:43pm by Tsukinomahou
#18 Oct 13 2007 at 10:52 PM Rating: Decent
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I can't tell which things are the censors and what is the actual show. It almost looks like the little colored panels with the little girls on them are the censor bars, but then there is that weird backwards 'e' looking thing that looks like it's censoring the censor of something.

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#19 Oct 13 2007 at 10:59 PM Rating: Default
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Are we only discussing censorship in the context of of television and music? Because honestly when I play an online game, I 100% support chat censorship. First it is an easy "Ok this person is not worth talking to," eye catch, and second a series of random and interchangeable symbols has about as much meaning as a series of random and interchangeable racial slurs.

For television, music, and movies in the context of verbal censorship (so long as whole scenes are not removed so that I am clueless as to what just occurred) I don't really have a problem with it. I don't unnecessarily support it, but it really does not bother me in the slightest when a monotone pitch overlays half a phoneme. I do find my experience sometimes enhanced by it, that jokes are sometimes funnier when when "oh ****" is partially bleeped out, or when flipping through channels I come across a horrid music video and would rather not have my ears flooded with loud repetitions of "******."

I usually feel that if someone is saying something foul it is probably not worth giving an ear to them, which likely contributes to my lack of opposition to verbal censorship.

Visual censorship does tend to irritate me. I do not believe minor amounts of gore or nudity have an appreciable, negative psychological effect on people (note that gore and violence are not the same thing, as violence can very much affect people), and that most opposition to such displays are founded on antiquated morals.



To summarize: Seems I look more amiably on the FCC than the rest of you.
#20 Oct 13 2007 at 11:13 PM Rating: Good
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I usually feel that if someone is saying something foul it is probably not worth giving an ear to them, which likely contributes to my lack of opposition to verbal censorship.
Are you talking just about "bad words" or also about "bad language?" I've noticed that we tend to be able to say pretty much anything on TV in the US as long as it isn't a "bad word."
#21 Oct 13 2007 at 11:18 PM Rating: Good
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Allegory I'm fine with your post aside from the fact that you forgot to make one good comparison...The News.

Its allright for a child to hear that "Sandy Johnson was raped and tortured in her quiet suburb home tonight, while accross town 3 kids were beating a man to death, outside of a building that was later busted for having a methlab".

We cant censor real life so why not prepare people for the real world? Unless you dont have any balls and cant take it...then my suggestion would be not to own a television.
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#22 Oct 13 2007 at 11:20 PM Rating: Default
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Professor Tsukinomahou wrote:
Allegory wrote:
I usually feel that if someone is saying something foul it is probably not worth giving an ear to them, which likely contributes to my lack of opposition to verbal censorship.
Are you talking just about "bad words" or also about "bad language?" I've noticed that we tend to be able to say pretty much anything on TV in the US as long as it isn't a "bad word."

If I am understanding you correctly, then "bad words" refers to individual words and their meanings rather than that of the sentence as a whole whereas as "bad language" refers to context, innuendo, and the overall meaning of a sentence?

If this is the case then I ignore bad words, but not necessarily bad language.

Edited, Oct 14th 2007 2:21am by Allegory
#23 Oct 13 2007 at 11:25 PM Rating: Default
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Allegory I'm fine with your post aside from the fact that you forgot to make one good comparison...The News.

Its allright for a child to hear that "Sandy Johnson was raped and tortured in her quiet suburb home tonight, while accross town 3 kids were beating a man to death, outside of a building that was later busted for having a methlab".

We cant censor real life so why not prepare people for the real world? Unless you dont have any balls and cant take it...then my suggestion would be not to own a television.

At least in the U.S. "rape," "torture," and "meth lab," are not censored phrases. They can say it on the news and they can say it on comedy central.

However I do see the news as being in a different position from most other forms of media.
"Fuck you nigger," is not the same as "'Fuck you nigger.'"

Edit...filters..

Edited, Oct 14th 2007 2:30am by Allegory
#24 Oct 13 2007 at 11:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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Grandfather Barkingturtle wrote:
I am anti-censorship.

I mean hell, I was exposed to loads of violence, profanity and overt sexuality when I was a kid and I turned out fine.


I now agree to censorship. Smiley: yikes
#25 Oct 14 2007 at 3:01 AM Rating: Good
Allegory wrote:
Professor Tsukinomahou wrote:
Allegory wrote:
I usually feel that if someone is saying something foul it is probably not worth giving an ear to them, which likely contributes to my lack of opposition to verbal censorship.
Are you talking just about "bad words" or also about "bad language?" I've noticed that we tend to be able to say pretty much anything on TV in the US as long as it isn't a "bad word."

If I am understanding you correctly, then "bad words" refers to individual words and their meanings rather than that of the sentence as a whole whereas as "bad language" refers to context, innuendo, and the overall meaning of a sentence?

If this is the case then I ignore bad words, but not necessarily bad language.

Edited, Oct 14th 2007 2:21am by Allegory
What I meant was that we generally censor specific words, like "fuck" or "asshole" here in the US, while most speech which I would consider much more dangerous is left entirely alone. For instance, people are allowed to describe violence or sex in detail, but they're not allowed to use the word "shit" at all.

I was also thinking about that because of what was censored in what I was watching, since there are 0 of those "bad words" in Japanese; they only censor certain types of speech.



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I can't tell which things are the censors and what is the actual show. It almost looks like the little colored panels with the little girls on them are the censor bars, but then there is that weird backwards 'e' looking thing that looks like it's censoring the censor of something.
It's...it's the whole box. The main character is sitting there spinning the little "の" with her feet. In the first scene it's covering up "ä¸å‡ºã—希望" ("internal ejaculation hope"), in the second one there are three covering up panties (or possibly nothing), and the last one the entire screen is not shown. There was also a lot of audio censoring.

Edited, Oct 14th 2007 4:06am by Tsukinomahou
#26 Oct 14 2007 at 6:30 AM Rating: Decent
You can say "sex" but not "fUck."

You can say "********" but not "asShole."

You can say "****" but not "Shit."

It makes no real sense. Does context particularly matter? If it's the context that matters so much then why can't these words even be used in their correct definitions?
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